Retrieving wreckage from AirAsia Flight To Singapore- no survivors recovered #2

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[video=twitter;552712449242431491]https://twitter.com/Malaysia_Latest/status/552712449242431491[/video]
 
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I think the bodies from MH370 would be skeletons long buried in the silt, but wouldn't it be something if they found part of the wreckage?

MH370 is slowly becoming the Titanic.
 
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Yes. The water is warm and it actually will cause a rapid decomposition of a body. I won't go into details, but it will be increasingly more difficult on the recovery people as the days go forward. Not pretty.

I would love for them to find anything from MH370. It would be quite a miracle for those families. This has to be just awful for them and watching how quickly things are happening must be so hard.

Your reply was so much better than mine...:kickcan:
 
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It sure is, isn't it?

And I like your comparison to Amelia Earhart, Newone.


same part of the world too -- :scared:
 
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Thanks everyone, I was coming on to post tonight the pingers might not have been activated. I'll sit on my fingers again, but they were twitchy.

Twitch away Peli!
 
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OMG ... they've found the tail ... they've found the tail!! :happydance:

Though I must have been cutting up an onion when I saw that, my eyes felt a bit watery. :cry:


(And our other good local news ... I felt a raindrop outside, we might get rain tonight .. and tomorrow ... we're in bushfire-recovery! Of course, big ole puppy has his head under the bed due to the thunder, and there is a chance of lightening strikes, but the worst seems to be over. :biggrin: EDIT: It is raining!!)
 
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Watching The Project (current affairs/news program), a safety expert is saying that Air Asia refused to have the IOSA audit - he doesn't know why, it could be cost. He would never fly with anyone who did not have the IOSA audit.

He also said that last year there was only 21 fatal air accidents, we just feel like there was a lot of them (here) because most of them were in our backyard.

You can check at this link for airlines who have undertaken - and passed - the IOSA audit.

http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/safety/audit/iosa/Pages/registry.aspx?Query=all


ETA: 21 fatal accidents is a record low, apparently.
 
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OMG ... they've found the tail ... they've found the tail!! :happydance:

Though I must have been cutting up an onion when I saw that, my eyes felt a bit watery. :cry:


(And our other good local news ... I felt a raindrop outside, we might get rain tonight .. and tomorrow ... we're in fire-recovery! Of course, big ole puppy has his head under the bed due to the thunder, and there is a chance of lightening strikes, but the worst seems to be over. :biggrin:)

Glad to hear you are getting rain and relief, and puppy is safe. Not sure how you would spray paint phone numbers on his paws.
 
  • #734
Glad to hear you are getting rain and relief, and puppy is safe. Not sure how you would spray paint phone numbers on his paws.

:D Funny, emirates. :giggle:
 
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Y _ e a h !

At least we can recycle hope that we are closer to the boxes! It is peculiar that no pingers have yet to be heard, so I am hoping that we are not in a place where they seperated from aircraft at some earlier phase of the accident sequence, but it is exciting!

Media is just being dumb, again. AL these implications that these two folks just said , nah no interest in weather is ludicrious. Gosh, they got it online , and it was not like they were hiding that the airline had quit (makes sense to me) sending people in to pull a printout on some old weather when they could get it , fresh off the presess while sitting in their cockpit 40 minutes before push back from the gate. Think it through CNN - bunch of silliness.

Obviuosly if we all look at what has gone on the lwast week with the certification "stuff" could be greed, or a bunch of paperwork mess up. Neither is new! Even now they cant figure out what each other understaood about how it was to work. The real mess on this angle of the story is the govt! If the plane did not crash chances are it would still be doing a Sunday segement !

Now lets get those bablies in some coolers, with water and on their little ways to readout- that is an order!! HA

I am afraid to ask for a weather outlook - they still need to be able to be down there especailly since there have been no reports of pingers.

ANyone know:

depth of water at exact location of tail?

HOw this find relates to any of the other cluster shadows reported - could we still be talking about some other large parts of AIr Asia in a concentrated debris feild on the ocean floor?

Tail seperating could go with either scenario tho - controlled flight of some sort down to water level and nose up tail hit first impact with ocean, or stall from above and subsequent seperation from the rest of the aircraft during fall, stall very stressful on the stablizer of the aircraft.
 
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OMG ... they've found the tail ... they've found the tail!! :happydance:

Though I must have been cutting up an onion when I saw that, my eyes felt a bit watery. :cry:


(And our other good local news ... I felt a raindrop outside, we might get rain tonight .. and tomorrow ... we're in bushfire-recovery! Of course, big ole puppy has his head under the bed due to the thunder, and there is a chance of lightening strikes, but the worst seems to be over. :biggrin: EDIT: It is raining!!)

BBM :great:
 
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May I ask what sort of puppy he is?

He is a Golden Retriever/Boxer cross .. coat of a boxer, snout of a golden retriever, big soulful brown eyes like a retriever, floppy ears, loooong happy tail ... hard to imagine but he turned out to be a good looking lad. And not so much of a puppy any more :blush: ... but he sure acts like one with that bouncy, silly, happy-chappy boxer attitude. Thanks for asking! :seeya:
 
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don t like this

Officials believe strong currents have moved wreckage about under water
It was found in a secondary search area, lending weight to theories that strong currents have moved the debris. the tail of the Airbus A320-200 was spotted by teams involving divers and unmanned underwater vehicles

The BBC's Karishma Vaswani in Jakarta says the tail was not found in the area search teams previously focussed upon, but in the expanded search area. This could add weight to that theory, she adds.

e confirmation of tail section recovery came after the divers plunged into the Java Sea to retrieve the two large objects suspected detected by a US Navy ship, the USS Fort Worth, yesterday at a depth of 28 meters (92 feet) near the Karimata Strait off Indonesia. They were suspected of being the fuselage of the AirAsia plane, said a news agency.

the team of divers and unmanned underwater vehicles had managed to take photographs of what appeared to be debris, despite the murky water and strong currents.

it’s still not known if the black boxes were dislodged before or during impact, thus a large part of the search strategy now involves using underwater towed array sonar to pick up the boxes locator beacons.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30706298
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it would be better to find em in the tail or surrounding area as oppossed to trying to get the empennage up to the surface less risky.

I am enjoyng chocolate at 4 in the morning to celebrate our tail finding. This may call for another box of Snow Caps before attempting to go back to sleep. AS a profound insomniac, Lunesta fascialted, we all know how helful several tons of chcolate are always helful before attempting to resume sleeping functions!

Lucky obese gene does not exist in family history ha! Ummmmmmm these Snow Caps are paradise!

http://www.thehawkindia.com/airasia...taining-black-boxes-found-indonesia-sar-chief

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucedorminey/2015/01/07/searchers-find-airasia-airbus-tail-section/

They found it at 5 in the morning in terms of the sonar CNN

sub salvage being prepped!
 
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ANyone know:

depth of water at exact location of tail?

HOw this find relates to any of the other cluster shadows reported - could we still be talking about some other large parts of AIr Asia in a concentrated debris feild on the ocean floor?

They are saying that the tail was located in a secondary search area, CARIIS. As though it may have drifted with the current. Can't find any depth yet. But I did hear on TV that the positioning lends weight to the theory that it was horizontal at impact (and presumably cartwheeled ?) Guess there will be a lot of speculation about that in the coming days.


It was found in a secondary search area, lending weight to theories that strong currents have moved the debris.

Also ...

Investigators said they had found another body on Wednesday, bringing the total recovered to date to 40.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30706298


ETA: Oops, I see you found the secondary site thing.
 
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