Retrieving wreckage from AirAsia Flight To Singapore- no survivors recovered #3

[Dr. Know?]

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The weather conditions, which had hampered the operation on Saturday, have improved, Supriyadi said.

As the fuselage neared the surface on Sunday, one body appeared in the water and was retrieved, the military said. It's the 70th recovered so far during weeks of searching

http://www.wcvb.com/national/new-at...te=true&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

[Dr. Know?]

Oh, I just looked at your CNN link, Dr Know. It looks like it is today. 2nd time rope has snapped. How much more stress can that fuselage take??!

If something does not work, change it.

Yes, that's a basic principal most know. It's broken. Fix it!

 

[SouthAussie]

The families with people still missing must be heartbroken. Pulled up, then falls down again, pulled up, then down again. What will be left of their loved ones by the time this is done?

To me, it is a shambles.

 

[Dr. Know?]

What's with these straps breaking? I know that the winds are horrible and currents are extemely strong. I thought they were rated for 25 tons or more? Not sure if that's correct or not but remember reading an article (I can't find at the moment, gar) the strength was more than enough. Then again, I'm not out on this seabed either. jmo

It appears this time they reached the service and then it broke. How heartbreaking for the families. smh...

 

[emirates1957]

The families with people still missing must be heartbroken. Pulled up, then falls down again, pulled up, then down again. What will be left of their loved ones by the time this is done?

To me, it is a shambles.

Was thinking the same thing as soon as I read it.

 

[SouthAussie]

What's with these straps breaking? I know that the winds are horrible and currents are extemely strong. I thought they were rated for 25 tons or more? Not sure if that's correct or not but remember reading an article (I can't find at the moment, gar) the strength was more than enough. Then again, I'm not out on this seabed either. jmo

It appears this time they reached the service and then it broke. How heartbreaking for the families. smh...

I'm not sure what they think they are doing, pulling up a 30m long piece of fuselage (filled with silt) with one strap and some balloons. Surely, several straps would be needed, placed strategically at different spots along the fuselage, to relieve the stress and carry the weight more evenly?

I think their methodology may be seriously flawed. It defies physics, and is asking for something to break imo. I wish they'd accept some help. :sigh:

 

[emirates1957]

I'm not sure what they think they are doing, pulling up a 30m long piece of fuselage (filled with silt) with one strap and some balloons. Surely, several straps would be needed, placed strategically at different spots along the fuselage, to relieve the stress and carry the weight more evenly?

I think their methodology may be seriously flawed. It defies physics, and is asking for something to break imo. I wish they'd accept some help. :sigh:

Yes apply 3 harness points. Hmmm physics versus loosing face.

 

[SouthAussie]

The Indonesian admiral in charge of operations to recover AirAsia flight QZ8501 has told the BBC the fuselage may be too fragile to be lifted.

Rear Admiral Widodo's comments came after a renewed attempt to raise the wreckage from seabed failed when it kept breaking into pieces.

The wreckage includes parts of both of the wings of the Airbus.

Rescuers have been using inflatable balloon bags capable of lifting up to 10 tonnes to raise the 13-metre long section of wreckage from the sea bed and onto a flat boat.

Giant lifting balloon bags are used to help raise the fuselage

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30972235

 

[SouthAussie]

Officials have been trying for days to find a way to lift the fuselage, which is in about 100 feet of water.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/airasia...lift-crashed-planes-fuselage-fails-1422182587

 

[Tssiemer]

It's been what? Almost 4 weeks? What's left of the bodies still in he fuselage?


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[Snoods]

The Indonesian admiral in charge of operations to recover AirAsia flight QZ8501 has told the BBC the fuselage may be too fragile to be lifted.

Rear Admiral Widodo's comments came after a renewed attempt to raise the wreckage from seabed failed when it kept breaking into pieces.

The wreckage includes parts of both of the wings of the Airbus.

Rescuers have been using inflatable balloon bags capable of lifting up to 10 tonnes to raise the 13-metre long section of wreckage from the sea bed and onto a flat boat.

Giant lifting balloon bags are used to help raise the fuselage

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30972235

Just a wild guess, but I wonder if it is breaking into pieces because it keeps getting lifted and falling? SMH. I remember how precarious that one large-ish piece looked when it was brought to the surface a while back, bending out at both side of the ropes. This is making me cringe...

Thanks for the updates everyone.

 

[Snoods]

The families with people still missing must be heartbroken. Pulled up, then falls down again, pulled up, then down again. What will be left of their loved ones by the time this is done?

To me, it is a shambles.

I was wondering the same thing SA, it sounds simply ghastly. I can't imagine what the families are feeling right now.

 

[Snoods]

This is a pic from SA's link above, it's really interesting.

[video=twitter;559147950807326721]https://twitter.com/MarkHanrahan9/status/559147950807326721[/video]

 

[Snoods]

Another pic of the wreckage as it was briefly brought to the surface.

[video=twitter;559233726689730561]https://twitter.com/MarkHanrahan9/status/559233726689730561[/video]

 

[Snoods]

Screaming warning alerts drowned out crew's voices:

The sound of screaming warning alerts filled the cockpit of doomed AirAsia flight QZ8501 as pilots wrestled to stabilise the doomed jet, it has been revealed.

The crew's voices were drowned out by the deafening noise of the alerts before the plane plunged into the sea, according to analysis of its black box flight recorder.

A noise alerting crew to the fact that the plane was stalling was also heard as the recorder is examined for clues to why the jet plunged into the Java Sea with the loss of 162 lives on December 28.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/airasia-flight-qz8501-screaming-warning-5015025

 

[Snoods]

[video=youtube;qlk-eJoRLnc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlk-eJoRLnc[/video]

This video shows an angle from on board the ship of the wreckage being brought up. How in Sam Hill were they expecting to get the wreckage onto the ship anyway? Did they think they were just going to be able to drag that enormous mangled mass over the stern and onto the ship?

(Oh my, sorry to hijack the thread!)

 

[emirates1957]

Thank you one and all for the informative updates. Simply brilliant.

 

[SouthAussie]

It sounds as though sharp edges of the wreckage are interfering with their efforts.


"Yesterday, efforts failed again when sharp parts of the debris sliced through a strap connecting the fuselage to a giant balloon and the wreckage sank to the seabed once again."

http://www.newsx.com/world/item/32452-new-attempt-to-lift-airasia-jets-fuselage-fails-as-rope-snaps

 

[panthera]

I'm not sure what they think they are doing, pulling up a 30m long piece of fuselage (filled with silt) with one strap and some balloons. Surely, several straps would be needed, placed strategically at different spots along the fuselage, to relieve the stress and carry the weight more evenly?

I think their methodology may be seriously flawed. It defies physics, and is asking for something to break imo. I wish they'd accept some help. :sigh:

Totally agree. Originally I had envisioned something more like what would be connected to a helicopter rather than what is being shown in these photos.

:doh:

 

[panthera]

It sounds as though sharp edges of the wreckage are interfering with their efforts.


"Yesterday, efforts failed again when sharp parts of the debris sliced through a strap connecting the fuselage to a giant balloon and the wreckage sank to the seabed once again."

http://www.newsx.com/world/item/32452-new-attempt-to-lift-airasia-jets-fuselage-fails-as-rope-snaps

Very curious how useful this wreckage is going to be to the investigation when and if it is finally retrieved. It certainly can't be now as it originally was when the aircraft crashed into the Sea and sank.