Retrieving wreckage from AirAsia Flight To Singapore- no survivors recovered

[Gypsy Road]

The crew's request for an unusual route is curious since the weather "didn't seem to be anything unusual," William Waldock, an expert on air crash search and rescue with Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Prescott, Arizona, told the Associated Press.

Severe weather is the reason pilots usually request a different route, but in this case the "winds were light, there were a few thin clouds, but that's about it," he said in an interview.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/1...ing-with-162-on-board-indonesia-media-report/

That's weird. CNN showed the radar during the time the plane went missing and it was full of severe storms. The radar was full of red!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

(CNN) Bad weather was in evidence in the region at the time, CNN meteorologist Derek Van Dam said.

"We still had lines of very heavy thunderstorms" when the plane was flying, Van Dam said. "But keep in mind, turbulence doesn't necessarily bring down airplanes."

CNN aviation analyst Mary Schiavo questioned whether weather would have been a factor in what happened to the plane.

"Ordinarily, the pilots would get the updated weather from air traffic control and, of course, their onboard radar," said Schiavo, a former inspector general for the U.S. Department of Transportation. "So whether there was (bad) weather in the area would not be a mystery."

http://www.koco.com/national/airasia-jet-loses-contact-with-control/30427680

Guess it is a mystery. Bad weather or no bad weather?!

 

[Gypsy Road]

(CNN) Bad weather was in evidence in the region at the time, CNN meteorologist Derek Van Dam said.

"We still had lines of very heavy thunderstorms" when the plane was flying, Van Dam said. "But keep in mind, turbulence doesn't necessarily bring down airplanes."

CNN aviation analyst Mary Schiavo questioned whether weather would have been a factor in what happened to the plane.

"Ordinarily, the pilots would get the updated weather from air traffic control and, of course, their onboard radar," said Schiavo, a former inspector general for the U.S. Department of Transportation. "So whether there was (bad) weather in the area would not be a mystery."

http://www.koco.com/national/airasia-jet-loses-contact-with-control/30427680

Guess it is a mystery. Bad weather or no bad weather?!

Well the radar will tell us the facts, right ?

 

[gitana1]

Just thinking outloud here ....while I do hate that family has to hear things through the news and not directly through the airline...how does the airline get the word out to family or know know who to contact this soon? Last time I bought a plane ticket I don't recall having to give next of kin or an in case of a emergency contact. How does this work. It's a legit question.

Smart point! How could they know how and who to contact that quickly?

I am not a Pilot and can only comment what I have experienced. Normally an updraft or downdraft will happen at higher levels much like clear air turbulence. Wind shears I have found normally happen in a landing phase. Landing into a wind shear can be very dangerous. Normally a Pilot will receive an alert from the flight deck whereby they will conduct a go around and endeavour to make another landing. Depending on fuel they may consider another landing or fly to alternate port.

Thats exactly what I learned in my fear of flying class. Wind shear is a problem on landing. Not up in the air.

 

[SouthAussie]

Okay, so it has now been 9 hours since it went off radar.

Ch24 TV News

 

[jslk]

Absolutely tragic, horrible news to wake up to this morning [emoji17]

 

[SouthAussie]

Indonesia has accepted assistance from Malaysia in the SAR efforts.


4 minutes ago
Malaysia's transport minister:

Liow Tiong Lai
@liowtionglai
Msian Govt has set up a rescue coordination centre at subang & deploying assets now to aid the SAR & coordinating with Indonesian led effort

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-28/airasia-flight-loses-contact-with-air-traffic-control/5990424

 

[SeriouslySearching]

7:34pm PST: Hadi Mustofa of the Indonesian Transport Ministry stated that flight QZ8501 lost contact with Jakarta at 6:17am local (23:17GMT). The aircraft was reported to have requested an “unusual” route.

http://www.airlinereporter.com/2014/12/breaking-air-asia-a320-missing-indonesian-airspace/

 

[KEVINinTO]

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[emirates1957]

Do we know the nationality of the Captain and First Officer?

 

[SouthAussie]

The plane was flying at 32,000 ft ... all other planes in the area were flying at 34,000 ft - 39,000 ft.

Flightradar24 @flightradar24
#QZ8501 was flying on FL320. Other aircraft in same area were flying on FL340-FL390.

 

[gitana1]

They keep losing those planes? I wonder if they'll be located, after, being used in an attack against the US? Just pondering out loud here...

Hi beautiful friend! I really think that it's more about odds. Flying is safe. But if something is going to go wrong, the odds are more likely it will happen to an airplane or airline connected with a third world or corrupt nation where training and safety protocols may be not as stringent. A drunk pilot would not be allowed to fly here, for example. In another country, that kind of thing may be treated more like the way things were treated here in the 1950s. Sort of ignored for the sake of allowing the pilot to avoid shame and to keep his job.

 

[restarea]

https://twitter.com/adikwok
@adikwok Dear all, please keep my family & all on board Air Asia in prayers. My elder brother Eko Wijaya, his wife and 3 lovely kids are on board.

Its always so heartbreaking when an entire family gets wiped out in an instant.

 

[emirates1957]

Two minutes. And during that time the flight crew would be frantically trying to prevent the plane from crashing. They would not be thinking about sending out a May day which could not help them in that situation anyhow. Your priorities would be on preventing a crash. Not asking for help from entities hundreds of miles away.

They would refer to their checklist.

 

[Really?]

Absolutely tragic, horrible news to wake up to this morning [emoji17]

I second that......terribly sad

 

[SouthAussie]

Help has now been accepted from Singapore as well.


2 minutes ago
The Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore has confirmed it has launched one C-130 aircraft to assist with the search for flight QZ8501.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-28/airasia-flight-loses-contact-with-air-traffic-control/5990424

 

[Tulessa]

Hi beautiful friend! I really think that it's more about odds. Flying is safe. But if something is going to go wrong, the odds are more likely it will happen to an airplane or airline connected with a third world or corrupt nation where training and safety protocols may be not as stringent. A drunk pilot would not be allowed to fly here, for example. In another country, that kind of thing may be treated more like the way things were treated here in the 1950s. Sort of ignored for the sake of allowing the pilot to avoid shame and to keep his job.

BBM: Right back atcha! I have not flown since 9/11. Even a 3,000 mile trip to Cali, from Ky, feels safer in a vehicle. Takes longer, but I always enjoyed the trip.

 

[KEVINinTO]

Do we know the nationality of the Captain and First Officer?

Captain is Indonesian F/O is French

 

[Tulessa]

I am not a Pilot and can only comment what I have experienced. Normally an updraft or downdraft will happen at higher levels much like clear air turbulence. Wind shears I have found normally happen in a landing phase. Landing into a wind shear can be very dangerous. Normally a Pilot will receive an alert from the flight deck whereby they will conduct a go around and endeavour to make another landing. Depending on fuel they may consider another landing or fly to alternate port.

emirates, Thank you! :seeya:

 

[SouthAussie]

A reporter at Changi Airport just said they were told that all official info will now come out of Surabaya (Indonesia). To me, that means that we may not get much ongoing official info.

Reporter says that seas in the area are quite wild today.

Ch24 TV News