RI - Mass Shooting at Brown University - Providence 13 Dec 2025

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Agree. And that's important to mention.
My point was that the Israeli government is keeping an eye on the case and that made it more likely that Prof Loueiro

Agree. And that's important to mention.
My point was that the Israeli government is keeping an eye on the case and that made it more likely that Prof Loueiro was Jewish.
Just giving my perspective as an American-Israeli: In the Jewish world in general, but in Israel in particular, there's controversy over who counts as Jewish. The Israeli government looking into the case but the Jerusalem Post not saying anything about his religious background could indicate that they're not sure how to classify him and don't want to wade into dangerous waters. This would apply if, for instance, he had a Jewish father and not a Jewish mother, or if he had converted in a way that the most stringent authorities might not recognize.

Over the years, I've also met a number of people from places like Spain and Italy who had good reason to believe their family had Jewish ancestry but had converted during the Inquisition. There's a small but real movement among people in this situation to return to their Jewish roots. So also possible that Prof Loueiro was someone with likely Jewish ancestry who had either formally converted or was exploring that aspect of his past.
 
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Yes, I had noticed that but haven't yet seen any info on what floor they live on . The sign is on the second floor. (And the street view is from August 2022.)
Brookline is a well known and long standing Jewish community as well. It's the best and so much to offer right outside Boston and Boston College has part of their campus on land there. Tom Brady also lived in a massive estate there. The trolley brings you into Boston as well. Home of many academics and students as well.
 
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Press conference delayed again. No approximate time provided.
 
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“We currently don’t have a time”, will give everyone 20 minutes notice for the press conference per the dude at the podium.
 
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“We currently don’t have a time”, will give everyone 20 minutes notice for the press conference per the dude at the podium.
I hope that means they are busy chasing and catching the perp.
Fingers crossed.

jmo
 
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Brookline has a very heavy Jewish population, so I wouldn't put much into that.

One doesn’t need to be Jewish for it. Many people put up something similar on October 7th and perhaps some just left. This is not even a political statement, just a sign of compassion.
 
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Rental car linked to shootings of Brown students and MIT professor, US media reports

Investigators believe a rental car linked to the Brown University shooting is the same make and model of a car seen in the area around where MIT professor Nuno Loureiro was shot, according to CBS News, the BBC's US partner.

As a reminder, the professor was shot dead at his home in Brookline, Massachusetts, approximately 50 miles (80km) from Providence, Rhode Island, where Brown University is located.

A news conference scheduled by Rhode Island officials has been suspended until later this evening without a new time given.

 
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Over the years, I've also met a number of people from places like Spain and Italy who had good reason to believe their family had Jewish ancestry but had converted during the Inquisition. There's a small but real movement among people in this situation to return to their Jewish roots. So also possible that Prof Loueiro was someone with likely Jewish ancestry who had either formally converted or was exploring that aspect of his past.

Yes, indeed. They were known as “conversos,” and of course until the advent of DNA and heritage testing, they may just be learning now about their roots.

I have to be someplace in 15 minutes so I’ll be missing the presser.

I know I’ll find out the news here when I return in a few hours. 🥰
 
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Part of the reason I'm not letting this go is that implies something very serious about a person who is an innocent witness. We've already seen one young man get thrown under the bus in this case...
i'll try to be more careful. i get the importance of the concern.

as far as the question itself, of whether they knew each other... when watching the 2:16 video, i got the strong intuition that they did and i latched onto it. i might be confirmation biasing.... in any case, the police probably looked at whether they knew each other and have taken into account whatever they learned. they just haven't disclosed the answer to that, and that's fine. we don't need to know.

also in any case, i believe person 2 that he was not part of what the suspect did and was indeed confronting him for one reason or another. that's what it looks like on the video and the police believe him.
 
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3 min ago

A fork in the road for officials: Release identity of suspect or keep it hidden? An answer in either direction could help or hinder the manhunt​

From CNN's John Miller and Emma Tucker

As investigators believe they now know the identity of the Brown University mass shooting suspect, law enforcement officials said, they’re faced with two options that could both help and hinder the manhunt as it enters day six: whether to release the person’s photo and name.

Over the past day and a half, investigators said they pulled together a number of leads and threads of information pointing to a particular suspect in the shooting.

The development makes a major difference in the investigation because authorities now know who they’re searching for in the expansive manhunt and have obtained a warrant for the person’s arrest, which means any law enforcement officer who encounters him has the authority to take them into custody.

Authorities now have to make the complex decision whether to announce who their suspect is and ask for the public’s help in keeping eyes out for that person, but either option has an upside and downside.

If they release the person’s identity and the suspect becomes aware that they’re being searched for, they could become a flight risk or a danger to others, among other possibilities that complicate a manhunt. If they don’t release the identity, they have fewer eyes out looking for the person, which could make the search more difficult.

A news conference held by Providence officials that was previously scheduled for 4 p.m. ET to provide an update was delayed, which points to the early and dynamic stage the investigation is currently in.

I get the concern. But at this point, it seems like they're having an extensive debate over whether or not to close the barn door and the horse has been gone for a couple hours and is a few counties over. He became a flight risk the moment that it was leaked that they knew who he was and what car he was using.
 
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Just giving my perspective as an American-Israeli: In the Jewish world in general, but in Israel in particular, there's controversy over who counts as Jewish. The Israeli government looking into the case but the Jerusalem Post not saying anything about his religious background could indicate that they're not sure how to classify him and don't want to wade into dangerous waters. This would apply if, for instance, he had a Jewish father and not a Jewish mother, or if he had converted in a way that the most stringent authorities might not recognize.

Over the years, I've also met a number of people from places like Spain and Italy who had good reason to believe their family had Jewish ancestry but had converted during the Inquisition. There's a small but real movement among people in this situation to return to their Jewish roots. So also possible that Prof Loueiro was someone with likely Jewish ancestry who had either formally converted or was exploring that aspect of his past.

I think in this case, “being targeted” is important. And for antisemites, it doesn’t matter whether he was “Halacha Jewish” or “not Jewish but supportive of Israel” or “having a Jewish wife”. It is all equal.
 
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This warehouse is what’s being looked at by news choppers and there’s a decent police presence in the parking lot. Assume this is where the car was found. Right across the border and off 93.

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wonder if he thought the police would stop chasing him at the state line, lol
 
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Not sure if this is allowed, but "Agenda Free TV" youtube channel is my go to when there are breaking stories. Steve tends to gather all the info we are interested in, live shots, scanner info, pressers, currently showing the flight patterns of the helicopters in Salem NH. He recently said the police have long guns and night vision goggles on. Fox 25 says: "FBI agents and state police are seen surrounding a location in Salem. They are not showing location to protect investigation"
 
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This warehouse is what’s being looked at by news choppers and there’s a decent police presence in the parking lot. Assume this is where the car was found. Right across the border and off 93.

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The helicopters are really focused in on this area! Like dozens and dozens of circles over the past hour by 2 - 4 different helis at various times, which also periodically leave the area to presumably refuel at towns in MA and then come back. At least one of them was at the previous mutli-heli search near Brockton, MA, but this search has seemed to last quite a bit longer and been more intense. Here are a couple examples of their flight paths to help everyone get an idea. There are currently 3 of them circling the area.
 

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Boston 25 reporting that FBI and State Police are surrounding a location in Salem shortly before 7. Not broadcasting location to protect LE.
 
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Taking someone into custody!
 
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@BrianEntin


The Providence Police press conference still has not started - I’m sitting here inside. They just said they will give us a 20 minute warning before. Makes sense they want to triple check whatever they are going to tell us after the mistakes they made early on.


6:48 PM · Dec 18, 2025
 
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This warehouse is what’s being looked at by news choppers and there’s a decent police presence in the parking lot. Assume this is where the car was found. Right across the border and off 93.

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So just crossed the border from MA to NH? Am I reading that correctly?
 

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