RI - Mass Shooting at Brown University - Providence 13 Dec 2025

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Two 9 mm Glocks, a bulletproof vest and a jacket recovered at Salem storage facility, source says​

From CNN's John Miller

Several pieces of evidence were found in two storage units that Brown University shooting suspect Claudio Neves Valente rented at the Salem, New Hampshire, storage facility where he was found dead, a law enforcement official briefed on the investigation said.

Pursuant to a search warrant, investigators recovered two 9 mm Glocks, one with a green laser device, as well as high capacity magazines and a bulletproof vest, the official said. They also found the jacket that was seen in videos and photos released by police earlier this week, according to the official.

Investigators believe, based on events, that Neves Valente was alive and moving up until some time on Thursday, the official added.

Why did he have two storage units rented in New Hampshire? I thought it was odd when I heard he had rented a storage unit there, but now, I see he had TWO, which I find even more odd. Was he moving to that area from Florida?

Had he already permanently moved away from Florida?

How did he get to the area of Brown University? Did he fly in to Boston, rent a car and drive to Brown? Did he fly there from Florida?

Have they said if the storage units had normal storage unit items in them? Like furniture etc? Or were they empty except for the few items LE reported finding, like his guns and jacket, etc.?
 
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After Neves Valente was identified as the suspect in both shootings, Noem ordered the US Citizenship and Immigration Services to pause the diversity lottery immigrant visa program.

Under the program, up to 55,000 immigrants can enter the US each year from countries with low rates of immigration to the US, the State Department’s website says.
So what happens to the people who are already here on a diversity visa? Have they been ordered to leave the country or face deportation?
 
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John may be able to write coherently and articulately. We know at one point he was on a successful conventional track. Maybe he's a recent grad trying to survive a rough patch on familiar ground, or perhaps his problems run deeper than that. He may straight up be a little crazy. Mental health and/or addiction are common factors in homelessness.

If John spends his time blending into campus crowd to quietly use the facilities etc. He needs to avoid being challenged, which means being very aware of whose around. Someone unfamiliar not acting like they belong would immediately catch his attention.

A shifty guy in the dishevelled clothes, using 'his' accessible bathroom might have looked like a new homeless guy turning up on his patch. John would want to run him off sharpish, especially if he was suspicious looking or might cause trouble. Drawing admin attention to homeless people on campus, would (f)uck up John's access.

Aggressively challenging him, and harassing him to the point of literally chasing him a few streets all crazy-like sounds like standard territorial homeless dude tactics.



I really hope that stepping up doesn't ultimately leave John in a situation where he's still on the street but looses his access to the facilities he relies on. He survives by being invisible on campus. Coming to media/police/admin attention strips him of that and might cost him what little safety and security he has.

He probably hoped someone on Reddit would pass on his tip for him so he could keep low. Even so, when the feds reached out he stepped up and was key to finding the guy.

It just would suck if he ended up in an even more precarious situation for doing the right thing.
Your thinking makes sense!

And I agree. All the more reason for him to get the reward — there are very real consequences to people for coming forward, and it makes sense to have a reward to compensate them for taking that risk.
 
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So what happens to the people who are already here on a diversity visa? Have they been ordered to leave the country or face deportation?
I can't say for sure, but they are not on temporary visas that can be revoked - they got their green cards/permanant residency right away.
 
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Good article that gives some more detail about how John - the homeless hero - encountered the shooter. Also, the information that John lived in the basement of the engineering building at the time.

Sources told Fox News that John had been living in the basement of the engineering building at the time.
What???

Like secretly living there?

Guess that's the end of that now, huh?

I wondered what he was doing in that building when he said he saw the shooter go in to the restroom and thought he looked like he didn't belong there... Then I think he said he waited at the exit of the building for him to come out of the bathroom, and when he did, that was when he started following him all around the streets where we've seen the shooter walking on video!

What made him so suspicious of CV being in that building? Especially when he himself wasn't actually "supposed" to be in there either! Was it just because CV was an older person? Do we know how old John is? From what I read, he was a college student at Brown also, "years ago", I believe it said.
 
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I hope he didn't sell his parents' house from under them, but might have done just that.
lol, i kinda thought that at first, but i don't think so now. i doubt it'd be legally possible for him to sell their house, or practically possible for him to do it without them noticing.

and the article, as translated by google says this:

It was on the second floor of this building, in the Olivais neighborhood, that Cláudio Valente lived before going to the United States.

"His parents are from Entrocamento, and Cláudio was very well-liked here. ... "
...

"His parents came looking for him. He later sold the house and his parents didn't know. It was a heartbreak for his mother."
not sure, because stuff might be getting lost in translation and/or the article is a salad of possibly unrelated statements, but i think the idea is his parents stayed behind in Entrocamento and he was living in a condo in Lisbon while he was in school at IST. these quotations are from the perspective of people who live in lisbon and were CV's neighbors, and they say the parents "came looking" for him. sounds like the parents didn't live in the lisbon condo. anyway, maybe customs in portugal are different, but i've never heard of parents tagging along when a kid goes off to college. so... family home in Entrocamento and condo for CV in Lisbon.

assuming that, when the neighbor says he "sold the house" without his parents knowing, it seems likely it's the condo he sold, and not the family home they were living in, in Entrocamento.
 
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Why did he have two storage units rented in New Hampshire? I thought it was odd when I heard he had rented a storage unit there, but now, I see he had TWO, which I find even more odd. Was he moving to that area from Florida?

Had he already permanently moved away from Florida?

How did he get to the area of Brown University? Did he fly in to Boston, rent a car and drive to Brown? Did he fly there from Florida?

Have they said if the storage units had normal storage unit items in them? Like furniture etc? Or were they empty except for the few items LE reported finding, like his guns and jacket, etc.?
Here's another article that states that CV died on Tuesday. Only one storage unit is mentioned, not two. Apparently, CV visited a shooting range in NH - possibly for shooting practice.

 
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Here's another article that states that CV died on Tuesday. Only one storage unit is mentioned, not two. Apparently, CV visited a shooting range in NH - possibly for shooting practice.

Great find! this news bit says that in addition to the 2 weapons he had, he also was in possession of 3 USB drives and $900 in cash, but so far did not have any list of other targets or anything like that.
 
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I thought it was very touching in his last Reddit comment, in his last sentence he says compassionately: “Hopefully you all are able to enjoy the holidays with your family and loved ones but if you are not may the following days treat you kindly.” That was before we knew he was homeless, so it reads differently now. :( I hope he can now have a better Christmas than he thought he would, and his life changes for the better.

So this is how i view it practically.

John saved so much money for all LE and security organizations of this country. It is very likely that he also saved them money on lawsuits because they already made one wrong accusation, and could have made more. He saved the time and... a lot of other things.

Also, it is possible that he saved other people's lives. Because appetite comes with eating. Claudio could have returned back to Miami, remembered some other people who "wronged him", and be back on his "revenge for envy" path.

If besides 50K which John fully deserves, these powerful organizations can't help him with a condo in Providence, given that the housing market is going down, I'd be surprised.

And of course, G-F-M and we'll help, but this will be "thank you" from us the community, a very different thing.

JMO.
 
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What???

Like secretly living there?

Guess that's the end of that now, huh?

I wondered what he was doing in that building when he said he saw the shooter go in to the restroom and thought he looked like he didn't belong there... Then I think he said he waited at the exit of the building for him to come out of the bathroom, and when he did, that was when he started following him all around the streets where we've seen the shooter walking on video!

What made him so suspicious of CV being in that building? Especially when he himself wasn't actually "supposed" to be in there either! Was it just because CV was an older person? Do we know how old John is? From what I read, he was a college student at Brown also, "years ago", I believe it said.
It's been said that John is a Brown alum...it basically is his home therefore he would be very aware of the comings and goings, and what didn't belong.

"The affidavit says John gave investigators additional critical details: He encountered Neves Valente in the bathroom of the engineering building hours before the attack, where John noted the suspect’s clothing was “inappropriate and inadequate for the weather.”

John then saw Neves Valente outside, blocks from the building, and watched Neves Valente “suddenly” turn around from the Nissan when he saw John. What ensued was a “game of cat and mouse,” according to John’s testimony — the two would encounter each other and Neves Valente would run away.

At one point, John says he yelled out, “Your car is back there, why are you circling the block?”

“The Suspect responded, ‘I don’t know you from nobody,’ then Suspect repeatedly asked, ’Why are you harassing me?’” according to the affidavit.

John told police he eventually saw Neves Valente approach the Nissan sedan once more and decided to walk away."

John also got the make of the car and saw Florida plates, he also looked in the window, I believe. How a Reddit user’s strange encounter cracked the Brown University shooting case
 
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^ For being a super intelligent person, Claudio certainly displayed a sore lack of intelligence for not abandoning his plan at Brown.
John and he had enough interaction, veiled hostility, and Claudio knowing John had seen his vehicle, license plate and all, that he was a bloody fool to carry on.
His arrogance did him in.
 
  • #1,992
The local rental car just happened to have FL plates and he flew in to some local airport?
Had he driven up at some point and then flew in? Did he bring FL and ME license plates with him?
Just thinking about his plates/planning.
 
  • #1,993
It is curious that he committed suicide before any real progress had been made identifying him. Typically evil shooters commit suicide because they know they will be caught soon. Had John not observed him, CV had every reason to think he might avoid capture. Even the murder of the MIT professor seems to have occurred without anyone fingering him. Some reports (not sure if valid or not) state he was flying out of the northeast on Thursday (yesterday) perhaps out of the country. Was that true? He really had no reason to fear John on Tuesday, since as far as CV knew, John was not communicating what he knew to anyone. If he feared John would finger him, why even go through with the Brown shooting on Saturday?
 
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It seems that absolutely no one from the US side of things knows him or has talked with him, which is really unusual. Not even a neighbor, friend, co-worker, no one. Not a peep. It's weird.
SBM. His neighbor across the street to AP:

He said he never talked to Neves Valente but had seen him several times, most recently two or three months ago. He said the Portuguese man was always busy, standing outside and on phone calls.

I wonder if he was working from home.

Another account:

7 Investigates spoke to another man who said he was a roommate with Valente years ago in Miami. The roommate said he did not see Valente much but when he did, he was always friendly and smiling.

 
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Automatic translation:

After leaving Brown University (USA), where he was unable to complete his postgraduate studies, Cláudio Valente returned to Portugal and worked in two different periods at the website Sapo.pt.
...
His colleagues describe him as a genius in the field of computer science as well. They recall that he maintained a good working relationship and was introspective.

 
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“His mother said this morning that she had always worried that the next time she would hear about him, he would be dead,” Mirita Domingues, a relative, told the Times.
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Neves Valente stopped communicating with his well-to-do family in Portugal shortly after his stint at Brown, kin told the New York Times.
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The murderer grew up outside of Lisbon and was a happy-go-lucky kid, Domingues said.



What happened between him and his parents?
 
  • #1,997
His former coworker at Sapo paints a different picture of the suspect (translated):

“Cláudio Valente? How?? Wow, he was a sweetheart”
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She begins by saying that she liked Cláudio very much, with whom she worked "twice, the first time starting in 2001, for about five or six years, and then again later. Because he left and then came back. He was a developer, that is, he wrote the code to program SAPO's services."
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She often asked developers to explain technical things she didn't understand at all, and that Cláudio always had the patience to do so. “He was absolutely brilliant, with extraordinary intelligence, but very kind and extraordinarily approachable. He was very patient and explained things. He was a very good person. A sweetheart, truly. And everyone who worked with him at Sapo says that, that he was approachable and kind.”

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Furthermore, she recalls, "he had a very sharp sense of humor."

She adds that nobody knew anything about his private life. He didn't socialize with his coworkers.

 
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He was a developer, that is, he wrote the code to program SAPO's services.
Exactly the sort of thing I’d have expected.

A few earlier posts compared CV to Kohberger. Both were found to be insufferable and arrogant by some. Both ended up being killers. But intellectually, CV was on a different level. (Read BK’s writing and you’ll know what I mean.)

The true tragedies of this case were the deaths of three people, along with the injured and the traumatised students, family and friends.

There’s another tragedy, too: that a man as gifted as this should end up killing. So few people could do what CV could but his flaws overcame his remarkable strengths and caused so much suffering.
 
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His former coworker at Sapo paints a different picture of the suspect (translated):

“Cláudio Valente? How?? Wow, he was a sweetheart”
...
She begins by saying that she liked Cláudio very much, with whom she worked "twice, the first time starting in 2001, for about five or six years, and then again later. Because he left and then came back. He was a developer, that is, he wrote the code to program SAPO's services."
...
She often asked developers to explain technical things she didn't understand at all, and that Cláudio always had the patience to do so. “He was absolutely brilliant, with extraordinary intelligence, but very kind and extraordinarily approachable. He was very patient and explained things. He was a very good person. A sweetheart, truly. And everyone who worked with him at Sapo says that, that he was approachable and kind.”

...
Furthermore, she recalls, "he had a very sharp sense of humor."

She adds that nobody knew anything about his private life. He didn't socialize with his coworkers.


I don’t believe that “brilliance” (or getting grades better that Nuno) means that much, if anything. You all know Thomas Edison’s quote, “Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration”, and maybe CV lacked in work ethics.

It fits that CV was the only child. When he went to the university, he probably cut off tight umbilical cord instead of stretching it.

Also, I think that in 2001, he made the right decision to switch over to IT.

Academic career means, not much money, competition, a lot of hard work and dependence on grants. Nuno Loureiro was lucky, with his work, he got MIT professorship, fame and publications. But it is always a risk, and financially, Claudio’s decision in 2001 could have looked sounder. I don’t know what was happening to CV in 2010es, but the real problem could have started with winning that green card lottery. The timing was wrong. The green card kept him in the US for over 6 months of a year, and there were no remote works yet in 2017. So he likely had to quit his job in Portugal. I assume that he planned to get into IT sector in the US, but he was in his 40-es, from another country, and not a team player. But the main issue, the downturn in technical sector, had essentially started with COVID, everywhere. I’d guess that he ended up in the same boat with some programmers but in a new country. And, no connections, no friends, no social network.

So it could have been all to his story. He could have made some nest egg, but “always on the phone”, might indicate some form of ludomania or other compulsive behavior draining out one’s money.

He lived here for several years and did not commit homicidal acts. So, either inability to find a good job and hopelessness or perhaps, a new illness or all of it. And then it goes back to “where did it go wrong?” And he starts finding blame with others.
 

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