Robin Williams found dead inside his home

2009 article about his heart surgery
http://www.theguardian.com/stage/2009/nov/22/robin-williams-comeback-broadway-comedy

A close brush with death has given the 58-year-old a new perspective. He met his friend Susan Schneider, a 45-year-old graphic designer, shortly before his operation and she nursed him through convalescence at his California home. (Last year Williams separated from his second wife, Marsha, after 19 years of marriage).
 
On Dr. Drew (yes, I know), he said that many people who knew Robin said when in the company of one, he was rather shy. But that two people comprised an audience and Robin was able to shed his shyness and insecurity and be "on". Pity he never was able to appreciate the beauty that was simply "Robin".
 
awful to think, maybe they were not getting along?

two of my aunts had separate bedrooms from their husbands. So did my mother and her last husband, along with several of my friends. There are times I sleep in another room. Doesn't necessarily mean anything. Different schedules, a sleep disorder ( including insomnia), snoring, tossing and turning, etc.
 
I do not see her as a culprit by any means, Steely. However I do not think she took on the role of partner and spouse to a loved one with bi-polar and or depression. I also find it hard to believe she was not aware of his struggles.

I am married to an addict who has been clean for 20 years. I am very sensitive of his needs and his demons that exacerbate his desire to self-medicate.

In 20 years, he has not relapsed, and that makes him a rarity, but I am ever vigilant because when you are committed to a person with emotional issues or addiction, you also commit to their disease. You go into it eyes wide open.

I can say, because of my experience, that not checking on a loved one who has been in a down cycle for months is indicative of "checking out".

It does not make her responsible for Robin's suicide. That is all on him. But it does give pause that if she were so disconnected from him, might that have not been BECAUSE of his depressive state, but rather the TRIGGER for his condition.

If his relatively new wife was already in a separate bedroom, not concerned with her husband's mental state, what does that say about her love for him? And if you are a person suffering from depression, might the indifference of the person whom you trust the most be a trigger for the most dangerous reactivity for a depressed person?

That is all I was intimating. Only I have probably said more in this post than in previous ones, and mods, I apologize if this is a no-no. I just want to emphasize the importance of being PRESENT for loved ones who are addicts, depressed, or living with other emotional pain.

When you commit to a person who is battling _________, remember that you, too are battling__________.

I understand what you're saying, but we don't know the dynamic that existed between them. He may have become agitated if she tried to talk to him about problems or show concern, and she'd learned to leave him alone at these times because he would eventually come out of it.

I don't know so I'm looking at her as a victim. JMO
 
I understand what you're saying, but we don't know the dynamic that existed between them. He may have become agitated if she tried to talk to him about problems or show concern, and she'd learned to leave him alone at these times because he would eventually come out of it.

I don't know so I'm looking at her as a victim. JMO

You are absolutely right. We really don't know. And if I were a member of the press, I would hold my cyber tongue pending further information, but as we are a forum for speculation and discussion, I don't think some non-blaming speculation into the dynamics of the Williams' relationship is out of bounds.

Calling her a murderer or some such nonsense is another thing, but questioning their relationship as regards to his mental state is relevant. Of course, IMO.

BTW, Steely, you are one of my favorite posters. I LOVE your take on things. I admired you from afar as a lurker. I hope it's okay to dissent.
 
two of my aunts had separate bedrooms from their husbands. So did my mother and her last husband, along with several of my friends. There are times I sleep in another room. Doesn't necessarily mean anything. Different schedules, a sleep disorder ( including insomnia), snoring, tossing and turning, etc.

I slept separate from my husband when I was WAY pregnant and his snoring did not combine well with my up-to-pee all night needs.

Other than that, we adore our time in bed (not even the sexual bizzniss), just having quiet, loving, holding time.

Of course all couples are different. But I cannot imagine sleeping separate from my husband of only three years. If it were so bad, I think I would be out of the relationship.

That is JMO! No judgement or attacks, please!
 
You are absolutely right. We really don't know. And if I were a member of the press, I would hold my cyber tongue pending further information, but as we are a forum for speculation and discussion, I don't think some non-blaming speculation into the dynamics of the Williams' relationship is out of bounds.

Calling her a murderer or some such nonsense is another thing, but questioning their relationship as regards to his mental state is relevant. Of course, IMO.

BTW, Steely, you are one of my favorite posters. I LOVE your take on things. I admired you from afar as a lurker. I hope it's okay to dissent.

Thank you.

Well crafted dissent is always welcome.

I just think there is probably a woman grieving who is blaming herself for this any way. I don't think she had anything to do with it, but she's probably looking back now and reinterpreting things that showed this might be coming and she missed them. Speculation isn't cool IMO.
 
How does anyone know that sleeping in separate rooms was a permanent arrangement? It might have just been that night or of recent.
 
I think we should stop looking at the wife as a culprit. The police have said nothing about her and right now I think she's just a victim of this too. JMO

Agreed. She is a victim here. I am sure she is going through her own personal he!! and second guessing her every action. Lots of "what ifs" go on in a situation like this, IME.
 
Is anybody else bothered that his wife left the house without saying goodbye or checking on him? Once someone is diagnosed as depressive, they become vulnerable. He had a lot of money. He's been dealing with addictions and depressions for years...why check-out now? Unless we find out he was recently diagnosed as terminally ill, I have some suspicions. JMO

Yes! I wondered about that too. Even if your spouse was in the habit of staying up until the wee hours of the morning, wouldn't you say good bye before you leave?
 
I see no way they could find a replacement for him in the sequel to Mrs. Doubtfire. :(
 
Thank you.

Well crafted dissent is always welcome.

I just think there is probably a woman grieving who is blaming herself for this any way. I don't think she had anything to do with it, but she's probably looking back now and reinterpreting things that showed this might be coming and she missed them. Speculation isn't cool IMO.


I hear you and respect your take.

I stand by speculation being cool. We are not a courtroom.

I also HOPE this brings awareness to BPD and Depression.
 

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