Ron C. # 11

[mysticrose]

texasmommy39,
Do you have a link to that statement by Ron's attorney? I've searched high & low, far, wide and everywhere in between and I still can't find it - Thank you!

Here is the link you are looking for NMS. Scroll down to June 29, 2009 and there she be:

PRESS RELEASE- HALEIGH CUMMINGS CASE

June 29, 2009

RE: Haleigh Cummings Case

This press release is in response to the Friday, June 26, 2009 dig and excavation on land owned by Crystal Sheffield's family in Baker County, Florida.

Forty police officers from five agencies reportedly participated.

The following is a quote from Lieutenant Johnny Greenwood, spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office. The quote was printed in the Saturday, June 27, 2009 Gainesville Sun:
"We are going back over our notes and conducting secondary searches. There has not been any new information leading us that way. We are pretty much going to dig up the horse... There is no information that she (Haleigh) is buried there at all".

Animal remains were recovered, as expected.

This office certainly hopes that no one in law enforcement is operating on the theory that Haleigh was murdered by her mother's family.

http://www.findhaleighnow.com/press2.htm

 

[elle1919]

I will search and see if I copied and pasted it somewhere or find a link.
IMHO I believe there are more that believe Crystal is behind Haleighs abduction at this time than not and it is a matter of a little time to catch someone in a lie or trace someones actions that will lead to Haleigh.
ETA: Here it is
http://www.findhaleighnow.com/press2.htm

I just read the information at the link twice and I didn't read where the previous attorney's of RC came right out and stated that they believed Haleigh was abducted by the Sheffield family. I did however read some interesting info that I am now hopeful about. I previously thought that Haleigh might have been abducted from a sex offender.....either known or not known by the Cummings household. However, after reading the info at link I think there may be a small chance that a family member abducted Haleigh. Crystal's father lived close by Haleigh and with the recent contempt hearing that was supposed to take place in the very week that Haleigh went missing perhaps there is ...even a slim to none chance that Crystal's dad would try to make the contempt hearing...moot. If this is the case I sincerely do not believe that Crystal Sheffield has a clue that this might be what happened. I do not see her emotions as faked. She seems like a hurting parent.

I find myself wondering if perhaps Crystals father might have thought back in time to the day when RC "supposedly" stole the children from Crystal and took them to his out of state job or vacation or whatever and then never returned them. Did he think he might be able to accomplish what many people feel RC did? Who knows. Is it possible. Perhaps. Maybe someone never dreamed that this case would draw so much nationwide attention. After all when RC decided bot to return the kids to Crystal....no-one paid much attention to that.

My suspicions are as follows

Sex Offender abduction....75%...not necessarily a stranger
Familial abduction unknown to Crystal....5%
the other 15%....I just don't know. I must say I really hope that there is a chance Haleigh is still alive. This would be a modern day miracle and even though I am a stranger to these people I might throw a party if Haleigh makes it home.


How come Johnny lives in Satsuma still? I take it he is divorced from Marie. Geez I never looked at this side of things so please pardon my silly questions.

 

[texasmommy39]

Here is the link you are looking for NMS. Scroll down to June 29, 2009 and there she be:

PRESS RELEASE- HALEIGH CUMMINGS CASE

June 29, 2009

RE: Haleigh Cummings Case

This press release is in response to the Friday, June 26, 2009 dig and excavation on land owned by Crystal Sheffield's family in Baker County, Florida.

Forty police officers from five agencies reportedly participated.

The following is a quote from Lieutenant Johnny Greenwood, spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office. The quote was printed in the Saturday, June 27, 2009 Gainesville Sun:
"We are going back over our notes and conducting secondary searches. There has not been any new information leading us that way. We are pretty much going to dig up the horse... There is no information that she (Haleigh) is buried there at all".

Animal remains were recovered, as expected.

This office certainly hopes that no one in law enforcement is operating on the theory that Haleigh was murdered by her mother's family.

http://www.findhaleighnow.com/press2.htm

Thank you MR
IMVHO the attorneys believe Haleigh is alive and hope that LE does not continue to waste time and $ looking for a dead child and not using those resources to look out of state at reletives that could be hidding HaLeigh. JMO

 

[Malesherbes]

Thank you MR
IMVHO the attorneys believe Haleigh is alive and hope that LE does not continue to waste time and $ looking for a dead child and not using those resources to look out of state at reletives that could be hidding HaLeigh. JMO

Yeah, but if LE is looking for a live child why were they digging up land?

 

[mysticrose]

Thank you MR
IMVHO the attorneys believe Haleigh is alive and hope that LE does not continue to waste time and $ looking for a dead child and not using those resources to look out of state at reletives that could be hidding HaLeigh. JMO

This is O/T But I have asked before in the past if anyone is aware of family or close friends residing in the Jacksonville area and or Texas. Wether it be Ron or Crystal's family.

 

[tfrohning]

And again...I will say that every law enforcement agency uses the same line. I posted a quote from the OSBI who said exactly the same thing in the Weleekta murder case and almost word for word. It is a standard and common phrase used by LE which simply means if someone will confess or give them the name of the person then it is the ONE PIECE they are missing to solve the case. It is the only piece they are missing in ANY case! This in no way means they are any closer to finding Haleigh or know who the perp is in this case, unfortunately. The OSBI could not be further from solving that case and IMO, PCSO is in the same boat. The statement means absolutely nothing, imo.

IMO the one piece that they are missing is HaLeigh?

 

[raeann]

Here is the link you are looking for NMS. Scroll down to June 29, 2009 and there she be:

PRESS RELEASE- HALEIGH CUMMINGS CASE

June 29, 2009

RE: Haleigh Cummings Case

This press release is in response to the Friday, June 26, 2009 dig and excavation on land owned by Crystal Sheffield's family in Baker County, Florida.

Forty police officers from five agencies reportedly participated.

The following is a quote from Lieutenant Johnny Greenwood, spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office. The quote was printed in the Saturday, June 27, 2009 Gainesville Sun:
"We are going back over our notes and conducting secondary searches. There has not been any new information leading us that way. We are pretty much going to dig up the horse... There is no information that she (Haleigh) is buried there at all".

Animal remains were recovered, as expected.

This office certainly hopes that no one in law enforcement is operating on the theory that Haleigh was murdered by her mother's family.

http://www.findhaleighnow.com/press2.htm

So, the TRUTH is that the statement in NO WAY implies that this is what they believe to be the case. The post that stated they said this was filled with inaccuracies, this is just one more of them.

 

[kamky]

I just read the information at the link twice and I didn't read where the previous attorney's of RC came right out and stated that they believed Haleigh was abducted by the Sheffield family. I did however read some interesting info that I am now hopeful about. I previously thought that Haleigh might have been abducted from a sex offender.....either known or not known by the Cummings household. However, after reading the info at link I think there may be a small chance that a family member abducted Haleigh. Crystal's father lived close by Haleigh and with the recent contempt hearing that was supposed to take place in the very week that Haleigh went missing perhaps there is ...even a slim to none chance that Crystal's dad would try to make the contempt hearing...moot. If this is the case I sincerely do not believe that Crystal Sheffield has a clue that this might be what happened. I do not see her emotions as faked. She seems like a hurting parent.

I find myself wondering if perhaps Crystals father might have thought back in time to the day when RC "supposedly" stole the children from Crystal and took them to his out of state job or vacation or whatever and then never returned them. Did he think he might be able to accomplish what many people feel RC did? Who knows. Is it possible. Perhaps. Maybe someone never dreamed that this case would draw so much nationwide attention. After all when RC decided bot to return the kids to Crystal....no-one paid much attention to that.

My suspicions are as follows

Sex Offender abduction....75%...not necessarily a stranger
Familial abduction unknown to Crystal....5%
the other 15%....I just don't know. I must say I really hope that there is a chance Haleigh is still alive. This would be a modern day miracle and even though I am a stranger to these people I might throw a party if Haleigh makes it home.


How come Johnny lives in Satsuma still? I take it he is divorced from Marie. Geez I never looked at this side of things so please pardon my silly questions.

All very good question, elle. One can only hope that LE is involving the FBI on the basis that Haleigh may have been taken out of state and that the FBI is looking at all possibilities. I think that LE needs to step back and look at the basics - motive and opportunity. Protecting Crystal from jail is certainly a potential motive.

 

[texasmommy39]

This is O/T But I have asked before in the past if anyone is aware of family or close friends residing in the Jacksonville area and or Texas. Wether it be Ron or Crystal's family.

No, I do not know anyone in these families.

 

[Donjeta]

I'd like to return to Ron for a bit...
I happen to belong to the oldfashioned school of thought that if there's a lot of smoke there likely is a fire somewhere. More rarely, a smoke machine. A lot of people seem to think that in Ron's case all the charges that ever get thrown his way have got to be bogus, and all the suspected fires are in fact smoke machines. Supposing that is the correct theory, why do you think that is? Why does he attract all these smoke machines? What is the problem that causes everybody to accuse him of terrible things he, a perfectly decent man and father, could never imagine himself doing and even lie and frame him for awful stuff? Why does everyone keep making up bogus charges against him?

I mean, it's not just one or two people who allege these things. It's a pattern. It's a personal problem. It's the ex's family and their lawyer, the wife's family, unrelated neighbors, and occasionally it has been even LE arresting him for things he says he didn't do. Why does this keep happening to him? Why do all these people want to harass a nice guy who never did anything wrong, a grieving father? How do they benefit? Is it revenge, hatred? For what? Things don't happen without a reason but I'm not sure what.

 

[stilettos]

I'd like to return to Ron for a bit...
I happen to belong to the oldfashioned school of thought that if there's a lot of smoke there likely is a fire somewhere. More rarely, a smoke machine. A lot of people seem to think that in Ron's case all the charges that ever get thrown his way have got to be bogus, and all the suspected fires are in fact smoke machines. Supposing that is the correct theory, why do you think that is? Why does he attract all these smoke machines? What is the problem that causes everybody to accuse him of terrible things he, a perfectly decent man and father, could never imagine himself doing and even lie and frame him for awful stuff? Why does everyone keep making up bogus charges against him?

I mean, it's not just one or two people who allege these things. It's a pattern. It's a personal problem. It's the ex's family and their lawyer, the wife's family, unrelated neighbors, and occasionally it has been even LE arresting him for things he says he didn't do. Why does this keep happening to him? Why do all these people want to harass a nice guy who never did anything wrong, a grieving father? How do they benefit? Is it revenge, hatred? For what? Things don't happen without a reason but I'm not sure what.

ROFL I am dying here.....very good question!:clap:

 

[lil momma]

ITA Donjeta

my dad use to tell me all the time, "For every action there is a reaction"

I do not think the problem is EVERYONE else in town, i think the problem is RC, but that is just MY opinion

 

[kamky]

I'd like to return to Ron for a bit...
I happen to belong to the oldfashioned school of thought that if there's a lot of smoke there likely is a fire somewhere. More rarely, a smoke machine. A lot of people seem to think that in Ron's case all the charges that ever get thrown his way have got to be bogus, and all the suspected fires are in fact smoke machines. Supposing that is the correct theory, why do you think that is? Why does he attract all these smoke machines? What is the problem that causes everybody to accuse him of terrible things he, a perfectly decent man and father, could never imagine himself doing and even lie and frame him for awful stuff? Why does everyone keep making up bogus charges against him?

I mean, it's not just one or two people who allege these things. It's a pattern. It's a personal problem. It's the ex's family and their lawyer, the wife's family, unrelated neighbors, and occasionally it has been even LE arresting him for things he says he didn't do. Why does this keep happening to him? Why do all these people want to harass a nice guy who never did anything wrong, a grieving father? How do they benefit? Is it revenge, hatred? For what? Things don't happen without a reason but I'm not sure what.

I think it's a mixed bag. IMO, he does have some personal issues, maybe due to a lack of a good strong male role model in his life, maybe some personality flaws, maybe lack of education, maybe lack of social skills, maybe excuses made for him growing up, who knows. I think these types of issues caused him to tend to find trouble growing up and established a less than stellar reputation. In recent years and with children that he clearly loves, I think he has matured and started to take more responsibility than when he was younger.
However, I think there has been a concerted effort to blame and malign Ron for each and every thing he has done since Haleigh's abduction and much of this has been bogus. IMO, hatred and revenge are behind this. This has gotten way out of hand and taken on a life of its own.
The truth is somewhere in the middle and this is why there is so much debate and disagreement. Some believe everything they hear and some are skeptical because there are so many negative things being said. Unless anyone really knows this man or his family, it is impossible to know the real truth. Some of us choose to take the rumors with a big grain of salt until they are eventually proven or disproven, knowing full well that some may be true but that much is probably not true. JMO.

 

[PorcineGranny]

Donjeta, you brought such clarity to this thread, Bless you!

 

[texasmommy39]

I do not defend either parent, they are not the victim their child is and until she is found and returned or recovered they are both subject to public opinion, good or bad. My interest is not to prove one is a better parent than the other it is to find HaLeigh. We all assume it is Ron, Misty or Crystal, but can not get past everyones opinions to figure out who out of the three did do it. I can wait till an arrest at this point, and then we will see who is right or wrong (not that it matters) and we all can learn something from this experiance. I know I already have.

 

[azwriter]

Well,Ron's attorney can think what he pleases although I doubt he really thinks that if he has paid attention to the case. I don't think Haleigh is alive, I hope she is. Thats the reason for this lack of co-operation. Just my opinions.

AZ, it is alleged that Ron and some juvenile placed a decapitated rat in Tommy's mailbox and that there is a witness who has signed a paper stating such.

Thanks PorcineGranny for the Rat Tail (Tale).
If this is something Rod did, it's pretty low life and sleazy. And, if he is guilty of this, I'm willing to bet he's done this type of thing before. And further, if he did it, he looks like a pretty vindictive person. I think I can stretch those thoughts far enough to mention maybe whoever took his little daughter was paying Ron back for some dirty deed he's done to them. Could this get any crazier?

 

[nomoresorrow]

I will search and see if I copied and pasted it somewhere or find a link.
IMHO I believe there are more that believe Crystal is behind Haleighs abduction at this time than not and it is a matter of a little time to catch someone in a lie or trace someones actions that will lead to Haleigh.
ETA: Here it is
http://www.findhaleighnow.com/press2.htm

>Respectfully snipped & BB NMS<

Originally posted by texasmommy39;
"Rons attorney stated they believe that the Sheffield family is behind Haleighs abduction . . ."


Original statement by RC's attorney;

"We are not making any accusations against anyone. We are asking that Crystal Sheffield's family be investigated in the same thorough, rigorous manner that Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin Cummings have been investigated. In addition to Crystal's mother and family in Baker County, Crystal's father Johnny Marcus "Marty" Sheffield resides in Putnam County, a few miles from where Haleigh went missing."

http://www.findhaleighnow.com/press2.htm

RC's attorney did not state that he believed Crystal's family is behind HaLeigh's abduction - He did suggest a possible motive as to why she/they may be involved and obviously worked diligently, on behalf of his clint, by providing the Putnam County Sheriff's Office and the Florida Department of Children and Families 3 separate/confidential memos dated April 1, April 6th, and April 17, 2009 to address what they (RC & his attorney) percieved to be issues that should be considered and looked into.

A client's attorney can suggest almost anything & anyone in order to divert or deflect attention/guilt away from they're client as we're all very familiar with in Caylee's case with Casey/JB Att; "The nanny did it . . ." This isn't to say that I believe, without a doubt, that RC's is guilty of HaLeigh's disappearance but it is to say that what RC's attorney believes means absolutely nothing to me as was the case for me with KP also when she was in the picture. That is what they do . . . IMO

BTW, Thank you texasmommy for the link - Much appreciated!

~*~ OMOOC ~*~

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

>Respectfully snipped & BB NMS<

Originally posted by texasmommy39;
"Rons attorney stated they believe that the Sheffield family is behind Haleighs abduction . . ."


Original statement by RC's attorney;

"We are not making any accusations against anyone. We are asking that Crystal Sheffield's family be investigated in the same thorough, rigorous manner that Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin Cummings have been investigated. In addition to Crystal's mother and family in Baker County, Crystal's father Johnny Marcus "Marty" Sheffield resides in Putnam County, a few miles from where Haleigh went missing."

http://www.findhaleighnow.com/press2.htm

RC's attorney did not state that he believed Crystal's family is behind HaLeigh's abduction - He did suggest a possible motive as to why she/they may be involved and obviously worked diligently, on behalf of his clint, by providing the Putnam County Sheriff's Office and the Florida Department of Children and Families 3 separate/confidential memos dated April 1, April 6th, and April 17, 2009 to address what they (RC & his attorney) percieved to be issues that should be considered and looked into.

A client's attorney can suggest almost anything & anyone in order to divert or deflect attention/guilt away from they're client as we're all very familiar with in Caylee's case with Casey/JB Att; "The nanny did it . . ." This isn't to say that I believe, without a doubt, that RC's is guilty of HaLeigh's disappearance but it is to say that what RC's attorney believes means absolutely nothing to me as was the case for me with KP also when she was in the picture. That is what they do . . . IMO

~*~ OMOOC ~*~

Yep, the three D's of the defense attorney: delay, deny, deflect.

 

[Malesherbes]

I wonder if those lawyers will represent him in the fight with Croslin?

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

I wonder if those lawyers will represent him in the fight with Croslin?

Doesn't look like it, IMO.


"I don't think we have any plans to get back into the fray", Kimball said.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...0,502551.story



Also, Ron filed an insolvency affidavit and asked for a PD.

Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES

Date # Docket Description

2009-08-06 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2009-08-06 2 $12,5004.00 SECURED BOND SET
2009-08-06 3 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2009-08-06 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING
2009-08-07 5 $12504.00 A-1-24 HOUR CITY BEST BAIL BONDS #2148146
2009-08-07 5 AMERICAN BANKERS INSURANCE CO

http://www1.putnam-fl.com/live/clkmain.asp