Ron C. # 11

[kamky]

Why didn't Ron go after her years sooner, no one can answer that.

Good question. Maybe someone from the area can tell us what the local laws are. Where we used to live, the person paying child support did not pay the receiver directly. Instead they paid ae "Friend of the Court" (FOC) and the FOC paid the receiver. If a payer was delinquent, the FOC eventually went after them for the money. The receiver didn't have much to do with it, although they could complain to the FOC that they were not getting their checks. But it was up to the FOC as to when and what action would be taken to get the person to pay. The wheels moved very slowly.

 

[kiki the parrot]

I think it's a shame, for Haleigh's sake and the sake of our sleuthing community that all of the hard work of even professionals who come here to loan expertise and contribute from their various fields to this site--including boytwnmom eg, who has already put in long hours herself assisting us here in understanding these lengthy court documents. That is how one refutes allegations, speculation and conjecture. Find someone who is qualified, equipped and more proficient who can sort thru the jargon and legaleze. I don't mean an attorney hired by any of the parties involved, I consider the source and refer here to someone who had no prejudice coming into this. whisperer and debs have also taken much of their time not simply to post one liners but to painstakingly pour over these documents. I'm sure by comparison it should take little effort to locate the countless posts citing page and line nos disproving all of their hard work done. Personally I am really humbled by, and just grateful for, those people who have contributed more than just personal opinion and links to this case, but rather have lent their own training, knowledge and/or much needed ability to articulate the court's decisions. JMO

arrot:

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

There are a few pics re today's prayer vigil flashing on the right hand side of this page. It looks like Misty was handing out flyers...perhaps for people to send up with the balloons? I hope the service went well and I'm glad to see at least some press were at it.

The article says TM cannot say when the search will happen. I do hope it is soon.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143445&provider=rss

 

[Pondering Mind]

I think it's a shame, for Haleigh's sake and the sake of our sleuthing community that all of the hard work of even professionals who come here to loan expertise and contribute from their various fields to this site--including boytwnmom eg, who has already put in long hours herself assisting us here in understanding these lengthy court documents--is routinely dismissed or rejected out of hand time and again by those professing to want help w this case. That is how one refutes allegations, speculation and conjecture. Find someone who is qualified, equipped and more proficient who can sort thru the jargon and legaleze. I don't mean an attorney hired by any of the parties involved, I consider the source and refer here to someone who had no prejudice coming into this. whisperer and debs have also taken much of their time not simply to post one liners but to painstakingly pour over these documents. I'm sure by comparison it should take little effort to locate the countless posts citing page and line nos disproving all of their hard work done. Personally I am really humbled by, and just grateful for, those people who have contributed more than just personal opinion and links to this case, but rather have lent their own training, knowledge and/or much needed ability to articulate the court's decisions. JMO

arrot:

kiki, you are one smart parrot! :blowkiss: May I add that I have always enjoyed reading your fair, balanced, well thought out, well written posts. TY!

 

[kiki the parrot]

ty pondering I have some good guiding principles but am the first to admit my own weaknesses--ie mental acuity, legal/criminal/investigative education or experience eg :ashamed: so maybe my greatest strength is just knowing when I need to defer to those w/ greater knowledge or expertise than myself. :blush: I like to think what I'm lacking in white or gray matter, I make up for in hard-earned wisdom and heart (courage). :biggrin:

arrot:

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

It looks like TM was at the vigil today!! You will see him on the video at this story. Bless TM!!!
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143445&provider=rss

 

[debs]

There are a few pics re today's prayer vigil flashing on the right hand side of this page. It looks like Misty was handing out flyers...perhaps for people to send up with the balloons? I hope the service went well and I'm glad to see at least some press were at it.

The article says TM cannot say when the search will happen. I do hope it is soon.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143445&provider=rss

I saw her hand one to TN in the video. Doesn't say much regarding how well it was attended. I hope people everywhere are doing their prayers for Haleigh.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

I saw her hand one to TN in the video. Doesn't say much regarding how well it was attended. I hope people everywhere are doing their prayers for Haleigh.

You seem gleeful about that proposition. I think it is so sad that you are more interested in seeing Ron fail at something than wanting Haleigh found. I think it was wonderful that TM was there, and am shocked you'd take a stab at Ron over this. I never heard anyone make comments like that about Crystal's event yesterday. Wow. The hatred runs deep.

 

[PorcineGranny]

You seem gleeful about that proposition. I think it is so sad that you are more interested in seeing Ron fail at something than wanting Haleigh found. I think it was wonderful that TM was there, and am shocked you'd take a stab at Ron over this. I never heard anyone make comments like that about Crystal's event yesterday. Wow. The hatred runs deep.

Bunny, maybe you are too sensitive tonight, I didn't take that as a stab against Ron, but rather a observance. JMO

 

[cajun]

The amount paid by the donor was roughly $12,000. At Crystal's monthly obligation of $350, that comes to aound 34 months, or almost three years of delinquency. I don't know if Crystal ever paid anything on her own because I don't know the exact date her responsibility started.

This link references that $12,000 amount:

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/071709/news_1754651.shtml

It was supposed to start at the beginning of 06.

 

[cajun]

Bunny, maybe you are too sensitive tonight, I didn't take that as a stab against Ron, but rather a observance. JMO

Unless you are Debs, that is who she was talking too. LOL

 

[MaedchenX]

Since when is there a monopoly on whose posts one can reply to and offer an opinion or an inturpretation on?

Pot, kettle and all that business.

I will say that it is nice to see that TM was involved with the balloon release. It will be good to hear about some definitive search dates.

 

[cajun]

I saw her hand one to TN in the video. Doesn't say much regarding how well it was attended. I hope people everywhere are doing their prayers for Haleigh.

All one has to do is look around for other articles..


Balloon Release for Haleigh Cummings


Posted By: Jonathan Feldmann

Created: 8/16/2009 11:19:52 PM

Updated: 8/17/2009 12:41:13 AM



WELAKA, FL -- Relatives of Haleigh Cummings held a balloon release in hopes of keeping the search for the missing girl alive.
About 100 family and friends released purple and red balloons, Haliegh's favorite colors, into the air to honor the 5-year-old. Monday is her 6th birthday.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=143445&catid=3

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

Since when is there a monopoly on whose posts one can reply to and offer an opinion or an inturpretation on?

Pot, kettle and all that business.

I think I misread it. I thought she was saying she posted it, when it was Debs that posted it. But maybe that's not what she meant and I was confused.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I saw her hand one to TN in the video. Doesn't say much regarding how well it was attended. I hope people everywhere are doing their prayers for Haleigh.

WELAKA, FL -- Relatives of Haleigh Cummings held a balloon release in hopes of keeping the search for the missing girl alive.

About 100 family and friends released purple and red balloons, Haliegh's favorite colors, into the air to honor the 5-year-old. Monday is her 6th birthday.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=143445&catid=3 I disagree as I would call 100 people a good turnout.

 

[Bobbisangel]

I'd like to add to this by stating that RC filed for custody in Sept as stated but by Dec 27th he had yet to complete the parenting class.
Crystal states that she completed it in Sept, which was when she discovered he didn't have to give her her kids back, and she was going to have to jump through loops, which she does immediately.

And I'd also like to repeat the bogus addy RC gives on the custody paper, as well as the bogus addy used to send her the paperwork, which she never received, but apparently someone sent a typed response to, and signed her name. Is forgery a felony?

He also frequently used bogus addys during criminal procedures, imo.
I think TN also uses bogus addys, but that's jmoooc.

Seems to me people should read the court paperwork instead of taking either Crystal or Ron's word as to how custody was determined for both of the kids when they split. The court paperwork will tell the true story. The other storys are just that...each person's version of what happened. For those that don't want to read the court paperwork I guess you just believe whoever's side you are on...Crystal or Rons.

 

[Bobbisangel]

Hi Jade, just wanted to thank you for your post--I guess if it was "good enough" to post, then it's "good enough" to quote.

I feel the context is equally important, especially if we're going to admonish others. The often used "Judge not," has frequently been misconstrued as sort of a blanket statement in order to squelch any kind of moral standard ie misused to imply we should make no moral judgments. This wasn't the intent (we can "love our enemies" while still holding them accountable in society--it is in fact the most loving thing to do.) A better interpretation is an admonishment to judge one's self first or to not hold others to a standard by which we're not first willing to measure ourselves.

Interestingly we're also told how to handle people in various states. We are to "admonish the unruly, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak." But as author Dr. Jon Townsend wrote, "To reverse these is tragic. Encouraging the unruly is like a watchdog making friends with the burglar." (~Hiding from Love).

We are warned about the dangers of all grace and no confrontation. Whether or not he has further knowledge of Haleigh's disappearance it's my own personal belief this is the situation RC seems to have been enjoying for some time now. JMO

arrot:

The bible also says not to try and take the splinter out of someone's eye until you take the log out of your own.......let the person without sin throw the first stone...and on and on. I don't know about others but I take the bible literally. I don't try and find out what the hidden meaning is...it is what it says. We are to have faith like a child....children aren't complicated. When you tell them something they don't disect it and try to find the real or hidden meaning. We are all guilty of being judgmental. None of us know what happened to Haleigh. Instead of relying on facts we pick up all of the crap and then make a decision of who we think is guilty.

Someone said that LE is 99% sure of who took Haleigh. I didn't read that in the article anywhere. They are still working the case and that is good. They want to talk to Misty. They didn't say because she is their #1 suspect. They might just want her to think about that night and go through it again. Her and her attorney refuse. Someone said that Misty and Ron refuse to talk to LE.
From the article I gather it is Misty and her attorney that refuse. I don't know about Ron but LE have said right out that they don't think he was involved as he was working. I personally don't think LE has a clue what happened to Haleigh. If they had done the things that they should have done that first night they might have found Haleigh by now or even right away. They drag her blankets outside for the dogs to sniff. Why didn't they get something she has just worn out of the dirty clothes...like the shirt she wore to bed and have the dogs sniff that? Maybe the dogs could have followed her trail. It's to late now to do the things they should have done that first night.

 

[Bobbisangel]

Ronald lost his job because he did not report to work as scheduled. Please allow him to accept responsibility for his actions.

From what I remember Ron and the Company had agreed on a date that he would return to work. He returned and they fired him because he hadn't kept in contact with them throughout the days that he was off work. We don't know if they told him to keep in contact with them or not. I would guess that because they had agreed on a date that he would return there was no reason to be in constant contact. Now if he hadn't shown up on the agreed upon date and didn't call the Co either I could see them firing him. We may not know exactly what was agreed upon though.

 

[Bobbisangel]

Glad he helped, glad everything is going so well...

Fact is I am concerned about JR now. He needs to be home. He was taken under false statements to the court. And now we can clearly see that he lied to get them and the Court made a huge mistake.

I was happy to see the video... but we wouldn't need to be happy about the video if RC had done the right thing in the first place.

These children were stolen and the court was not given or overlooked the real facts of the case. And some do not want to look at the real facts and face what occurred in that courtroom. Haleigh has vanished. We got to save JR.

Please read post #282

Well it's a good thing that some people on here aren't making the decisions that the court is making and has made. I would guess that the judge on the case wasn't some stupid idoit with not a clue of what he was doing. Maybe it would be a good idea to read the court paperwork instead of taking peoples word for pure truth. Before children are given to one parent or the other in a custody decision both parents are usually investigated and the children are usually give a Guardian Ad Litm. The parents don't just go before a judge one day and the judge makes a decision the same day. It is a serious decision and a lot of work goes into investigating and then making the decision that is best for the children. You may not agree but then you aren't the judge.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

Presser in 5 hours. I sure hope it is picked up by the mainstream media and that either NG or JVM run the story tonight, without any sensational allegations, just focusing on Haleigh.