Ron C. # 11

[harleysnana]

Conveniently, LE does not specify what they mean by "resisting", imo. It was only stated to make Ronald look bad which serves no real purpose other than to apply pressure, imo.

Ronald's priority is to search for Haleigh and bring her home which is what they are now doing by hiring MN and getting TES back out to look for her, imo. The time for going to LE and being an open book has passed when they haven't come up with anything to help bring her home, imo.

BBM
You know SS I wanted to add to this.
It makes absolutely NO sense that if Ron or anyone in his family had anything
to do with Haleigh missing that they would bring TES in!
LE hasn't been able to find Haleigh so IF like some believe...
Ron killed Haleigh or had something to do with it
you have to ask yourself.... why would they bring TES in?
Why not just let LE keep looking?
Up to this point they haven’t found Haleigh so
why try to bring someone in that has a good chance of finding her
especially if they know Ron did it?
The way I see it this itself shows that Ron is not behind Haleigh
missing.
JMO...IMO... No Links...

 

[SeriouslySearching]

OMG- she took a child to the Doctor! Shes totally danged if she does and danged if she doesn't huh? Ron is not the control master of the universe like he thinks he is- if he is taking her to court because she took that child to talk someone, he should lose custody of JR-

Also, can you show proof she took him to a shrink without Rons permission?

jmo

To my knowledge, the poster has not come back to provide a link to her statement saying that Crystal did take him to the therapist at all.

However, if what is said in that post is true then it does say the counselor refused to see Rj again until Ronald gave consent indicating he did not know about the first visit.

Ronald is not taking Crystal to court. Her attorney filed the motion.

I have not seen anything to indicate Ronald doesn't want Rj to be seen by a counselor, but if what that poster said is true...he only said no to that particular counselor. I think it is because of the location and other factors involved...such as both agreeing on the counselor to begin with and having input in his sessions...but it is only my opinion.

If Crystal did violate the order, I think she should be charged for contempt because...IMO...it shows she is not willing to cooperate in the care of Rj and that by itself is going against his best interests. Not to mention (if it is true)...she thumbed her nose at the judge already before the ink was dry on the order, imo! Rj receiving counseling is NOT the issue here at all!! It is how she went about obtaining it (if it is true) which was deceitful and underhanded, imo. It should anger everyone that she would stoop to that level!

For the people who are divorced here...I have a question. If your ex did this to your child without your knowledge while trying to possibly gain custody, would you insist they go ahead with the counseling and never mention you had no input? Would you applaud your ex for keeping it hidden when your ex had every opportunity and was bound by law to inform you per the judge's order?

 

[harleysnana]

OMG- she took a child to the Doctor! Shes totally danged if she does and danged if she doesn't huh? Ron is not the control master of the universe like he thinks he is- if he is taking her to court because she took that child to talk someone, he should lose custody of JR-

Also, can you show proof she took him to a shrink without Rons permission?

jmo

I'm not sure where you read he is taking her to court did I miss something?
I also stated it was IMO. I have a right to MO just as you do.
I'm sorry you seem to disagree with the fact that there is a court order
stating that EACH parent must notify the other of all appointments.
I have seen many people abuse this issue to benefit them in custody issues.
It was not an emergency so IMO there is NO reason Crystal didn't do it
the way the court order states it should be done!
IF Crystal was so worried about Jr. and felt it was an emergency then IMO
she would have taken him to the ER and contacted Ron so Ron could also be there!
I would imagine since its being said that the counselor wouldn't see Jr. again
unless Ron was notified and since Crystal has filed the issue with the court
that Ron did not give permission and did not know about it until after the fact!

You know it's funny in a sad way that some seem to think its okay for
Crystal to break the court order when she wants to and nothing should
be done about it... but when Ron breaks it....different story... slap the cuffs
on him and take him to jail!
(talking about Father's day)

JMO....IMO... NO LINK!

 

[cuppy199]

OMG- she took a child to the Doctor! Shes totally danged if she does and danged if she doesn't huh? Ron is not the control master of the universe like he thinks he is- if he is taking her to court because she took that child to talk someone, he should lose custody of JR-

Also, can you show proof she took him to a shrink without Rons permission?

jmo

Can I just say thats great she didnt miss the appointment just means when she wants to she can find a way.JMO Is it just your opinion that Ron thinks he is the control freek of the universe? If were gonna take custody from Ron because he should of been informed on where and who was treating his son then maybe Crystal should of had her visitation rights taken away for not paying for her child support.JMO

 

[SeriouslySearching]

BBM
You know SS I wanted to add to this.
It makes absolutely NO sense that if Ron or anyone in his family had anything
to do with Haleigh missing that they would bring TES in!
LE hasn't been able to find Haleigh so IF like some believe...
Ron killed Haleigh or had something to do with it
you have to ask yourself.... why would they bring TES in?
Why not just let LE keep looking?
Up to this point they haven’t found Haleigh so
why try to bring someone in that has a good chance of finding her
especially if they know Ron did it?
The way I see it this itself shows that Ron is not behind Haleigh
missing.
JMO...IMO... No Links...

I agree. Not only did they bring TES in...they did it very early on and begged them to stay until Haleigh was found. They did not wait 6 months to ask for assistance to find her. They showed absolutely NO resistance to TES on where to search, when, or how long nor did they require to only look for her in places she could only be found "alive", imo. They requested ALL the professional help they could to try and find her as soon as possible, imo.

It would not make any logical sense for a person or family to request a group like TES with their expertise and track record to come find a body they were hellbent on trying to hide, imo. So yes...I think it does speak directly towards Ronald not having anything to do with her going missing.

 

[harleysnana]

I hadn't read this before & I found these statements interesting:

Bowling said it takes rock-solid alibis before detectives can eliminate anyone and those have not been established. He said the best that can be done is assign degrees of suspicion to people.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/me...aleighs_family_remains_divided_6_months_later

I believe this has been talked about before and since then I believe that LE
has stated they do not suspect Ron and Crystal.
JMO

 

[Gracenote]

How do you know he isn't?

And Crystal has just as much rights as Ronald, and thats just a fact- If Ronald truly cared about his son he would send him to live Crystal and his two step brothers and sister, with a farm to run free on, instead of living with a girl who lost his sissy and wont cooperate with LE-

I hope at this hearing the Judge removes the child from Ron-

jmo

I think that the child needs a court appointed guardian to look out for his best interests, not his mother's, not his dad's, not his stepmommy's, but his.

 

[harleysnana]

Can I just say thats great she didnt miss the appointment just means when she wants to she can find a way.JMO Is it just your opinion that Ron thinks he is the control freek of the universe? If were gonna take custody from Ron because he should of been informed on where and who was treating his son then maybe Crystal should of had her visitation rights taken away for not paying for her child support.JMO

:clap::clap:
cuppy you made some great points!
IMO

 

[cajun]

OMG- she took a child to the Doctor! Shes totally danged if she does and danged if she doesn't huh? Ron is not the control master of the universe like he thinks he is- if he is taking her to court because she took that child to talk someone, he should lose custody of JR-

Also, can you show proof she took him to a shrink without Rons permission?

jmo

He is NOT taking her back to court, Crystal's attorney filed. Maybe you aren't familiar with the court records. I am sure Crystal taking him to a counselor without permission will be brought up by Ron's attorney though.

2009-08-10070.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - CAROL CALDWELL FOR MOTHER

2009-08-10071.MOTHERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR COUNSELING

2009-08-10 FOR MINOR CHILD

 

[Gracenote]

He isn't going to sit for hours on end anymore and they may consider it "resisting", imo. With their terminology, resisting could mean so many things tho.

I believe he openly cooperated before, imo.

I guess he has better things to do than to talk and talk and talk and talk to LE about ways to find his daughter? I see. We all have our priorities and sitting for hours on end could interfere with more important matters.

LE would not be able to get rid of me or to shut me up.

 

[Gracenote]

OMG- she took a child to the Doctor! Shes totally danged if she does and danged if she doesn't huh? Ron is not the control master of the universe like he thinks he is- if he is taking her to court because she took that child to talk someone, he should lose custody of JR-

Also, can you show proof she took him to a shrink without Rons permission?

jmo

She had an independent thought. She must be punished. How dare she get treatment for a child who is suffering?

 

[Dee10]

BBM
You know SS I wanted to add to this.
It makes absolutely NO sense that if Ron or anyone in his family had anything
to do with Haleigh missing that they would bring TES in!
LE hasn't been able to find Haleigh so IF like some believe...
Ron killed Haleigh or had something to do with it
you have to ask yourself.... why would they bring TES in?
Why not just let LE keep looking?
Up to this point they haven’t found Haleigh so
why try to bring someone in that has a good chance of finding her
especially if they know Ron did it?
The way I see it this itself shows that Ron is not behind Haleigh
missing.
JMO...IMO... No Links...

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community, I just want to point out it could make sense if:

- The person knows she won't be found or it is impossible to find her
- They want to receive good publicity
- To try & take any suspicion off of them

Many times (thinking of cases where) a wife goes missing or is murdered by the husband, the husband will search and sometimes hire an investigator, then it is discovered it was him all along. In this case some could argue the timing of this, after Ron is up on other charges.

I am not trying to imply anything here, I personally do not give any real weight to this event one way or the other. I only want to see this Ron & Misty co-operate with LE. Apparently is not happening or at least with Ron according to PCSO's opinion and Ron's lawyer hasn't disputed that.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Originally Posted by Malesherbes
How do you know he isn't?

And Crystal has just as much rights as Ronald, and thats just a fact- If Ronald truly cared about his son he would send him to live Crystal and his two step brothers and sister, with a farm to run free on, instead of living with a girl who lost his sissy and wont cooperate with LE-

I hope at this hearing the Judge removes the child from Ron-

jmo

Should Ronald simply hand over Rj to roam freely on the farm when during the recent search of her property LE came up with a crackpipe sitting out for them to find? Maybe Ronald's attorney should keep that report handy, imo.

 

[Gracenote]

Should Ronald simply hand over Rj to roam freely on the farm when during the recent search of her property LE came up with a crackpipe sitting out for them to find? Maybe Ronald's attorney should keep that report handy, imo.

Oh, I don't think his attorney wants to go there. Drugs are not a good topic to bring up. No, not a good idea.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I guess he has better things to do than to talk and talk and talk and talk to LE about ways to find his daughter? I see. We all have our priorities and sitting for hours on end could interfere with more important matters.

LE would not be able to get rid of me or to shut me up.

Yes, he does have better things to do...such as find Haleigh with or without their help, imo. They have made it very clear he is not getting their help in the matter, IMO. I don't blame him at all!

I would be looking outside of LE for answers since they do not seem to have any, imo. I would be hiring PIs, TES, Psychics, Lawyers, Bakers, and Candlestick Makers in an effort to bring my child home especially if I felt that LE had abandoned the search. They appear to be stuck on their "key" and that is not going to bring Haleigh home no matter how many times they try to make their "key" fit a lock that isn't there, imo.

 

[cuppy199]

I guess he has better things to do than to talk and talk and talk and talk to LE about ways to find his daughter? I see. We all have our priorities and sitting for hours on end could interfere with more important matters.

LE would not be able to get rid of me or to shut me up.

Or maybe they kept asking the same questions over and over again and he felt he had nothing to add to what he already told them over and over again. We have no idea what they meant by there statement we can only draw conclusion. It seems to me it was to draw a little heat. You would be surprised just how fast one can be quite when there words can and will be twisted and use again you.There is also nothing wrong with the police paying good cop bad cop.Doesnt mean Ron had anything to hide and it certainly doesnt mean he wasnt and isnt doing everything in his power to bring his little girl home.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Oh, I don't think his attorney wants to go there. Drugs are not a good topic to bring up. No, not a good idea.

I think it is an excellent idea since it is the truth.

 

[cuppy199]

Oh, I don't think his attorney wants to go there. Drugs are not a good topic to bring up. No, not a good idea.

It wouldn't be good on either side.Unless Ronald lawyer knows something we dont.

 

[Gracenote]

It wouldn't be good on either side.Unless Ronald lawyer knows something we dont.

LOL you have a point there!

 

[harleysnana]

Oh, I don't think his attorney wants to go there. Drugs are not a good topic to bring up. No, not a good idea.

Is this your opinion or do you have inside information?
I think we should leave all past drug use in the past.
SS is talking current!
Big difference IMO!