Ron C. # 12

[snookie]

Thank you for those excellent posts, Whisperer. :highfive:

As hard as it might be for Ron to endure the scrutiny into his private life; it is justified. This is not unique to his child's missing case. This occurs in every case of a missing child. In most stories I have read about the parents welcome every involvement from LE. Even if that means they're the first suspects.

It's worth noting; if Ron was so concerned about public perception of him he never ever would have pulled the Ratgate stunt. His actions as of late have not painted a pretty picture. Certainly seems he's doing as little as he can to find his little girl. One would have to wonder why that is?

ETA: Those with nothing to hide hide nothing.

Very well said!

 

[kiki the parrot]

Key word....BASICALLY.............

The attorney has interpreted his own way what LE actually said.
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..SHOEMAKER: Well, it`s kind of a tough situation to say they`ve officially cleared him 100 percent. When we met with law enforcement last week, they basically said they moved him from, you know, top of the list to the bottom of the list.

"Basically," "officially... " Dontcha just love legalese attorneyspeak

There is a time and a place for discussing the sins of this mother and father but inside an investigation into this beautiful child's whereabouts is not it, in my opinion.

(snip) No fan of GR either elle lol but must respectfully disagree, as the 'sins' as you refer to them or the discovering and exposing of w/e potential surrounding criminality, histories or just patterns of irresponsibility on the part of the significant players is the very heart and core of any missing child investigation (as well as investigative journalism). Therefore imo for Haleigh's sake there unfortunately IS no better time to have these uncovered and brought to light... except of course if it had been before she disappeared.

Ron screaming and cursing.."I need them here NOW"...hangs up on the MF'g people.."I've got MFg BETTER people to talk to them them" (always belittleing)who ain't F@#n coming anyway

..........YET..when they do arrive, he is sitting on the ground in his driveway, unable to assist or talk to them about anything. Ron and his helplessness has got on my last nerve.

But tell us how you really feel whisp...

arrot:

 

[kant]

Ron screaming and cursing.."I need them here NOW"...hangs up on the MF'g people.."I've got MFg BETTER people to talk to them them" (always belittleing)who ain't F@#n coming anyway

..........YET..when they do arrive, he is sitting on the ground in his driveway, unable to assist or talk to them about anything. Ron and his helplessness has got on my last nerve.

Classic verbal abuser in my opinion.

 

[Flossie JMO]

As hard as it might be for Ron to endure the scrutiny into his private life; it is justified. This is not unique to his child's missing case. This occurs in every case of a missing child. In most stories I have read about the parents welcome every involvement from LE. Even if that means they're the first suspects.

It's worth noting; if Ron was so concerned about public perception of him he never ever would have pulled the Ratgate stunt. His actions as of late have not painted a pretty picture. Certainly seems he's doing as little as he can to find his little girl. One would have to wonder why that is?

ETA: Those with nothing to hide hide nothing.

I suppose some disagree with whether it's scrutiny, and Ron's not the only one who has commented on it. I also don't believe the Ratgate incident happened as alleged.

 

[mck16]

Has anyone heard any news or anything pertaining to RC's sister? I believe her name is also Crystal. She was there in the beginning and I have not heard one utterance about her since. Have I just missed it? TIA

 

[Malesherbes]

I suppose some disagree with whether it's scrutiny, and Ron's not the only one who has commented on it. I also don't believe the Ratgate incident happened as alleged.

Yeah, I mean maybe Ron just found a headless rat and thought Thomas would love it? Maybe it is something we dont understand, a prank between brother in laws?

 

[Flossie JMO]

Yeah, I mean maybe Ron just found a headless rat and thought Thomas would love it? Maybe it is something we dont understand, a prank between brother in laws?

No, I don't believe he put it there.

 

[Malesherbes]

No, I don't believe he put it there.

Jeez, I just dont think Tim Miller would lie, but thats just me-

jmo

 

[Donjeta]

No, I don't believe he put it there.

Why did he lie to TM that he did? Or did TM lie about him saying so? Was the report that TM said so a lie?

It's possible that the juvenile he was observed with put it there.

A neighbor, Patricia Kay Pierce, told police she was watching TV about midnight Saturday when she saw Cummings drive by her home with the juvenile in the passenger seat.

The juvenile's name was redacted from the police report.

Pierce said she saw one of the two get out of his truck and put something in a neighbor's mailbox.

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/081309/news_1846820.shtml

 

[Flossie JMO]

Why did he lie to TM that he did? Or did TM lie about him saying so? Was the report that TM said so a lie?

It's possible that the juvenile he was observed with put it there.


http://www.staugustine.com/stories/081309/news_1846820.shtml

I have no idea why anyone is lying about it. Do you have any thoughts on that?

 

[elle1919]

Negative attention? So if Geraldo made Ron look bad by exposing his truths, people would turn their backs on Haleigh? That they'd take a look at the family and figure they're all just poor white trash, decide Haleigh's not worth it and not care anymore?

Not the case at all imo. I think if anything it would catch peoples' attention, and make them see how something is just not right with this case (to put it mildly). It might be negative attention for Ron, but not sweet Haleigh. People are certainly not being disrespectful to that precious little girl by seeking justice for her!

It must be awful to have all that dirt dug up, but it's not being done just because people don't like Ron. It's because he has been involved in some very questionable activites and has displayed some truly odd behavior. His *dirt* might lead us to precious Haleigh! Where there's smoke there tends to be fire.

I'm always puzzled as to why some people worry about Ron's shady past (and present) being exposed. To me any embarrassment, discomfort, or inconvenience he may experience pales in comparison to the fact that an innocent baby is most likely no longer alive. SHE is the victim.

If Ron wants to fix his tarnished image and possibly gain an ounce of respect, a great way to begin would be to start being honest with LE and make his princess bride do the same. And he could drop the Vanilla Ice attitude and wipe that smirk off his face while he's at it. imo


By the way, I hope this post didn't come across as snarky to you, elle. That was not my intention at all.

Snarky.....nah. I think you are expressing your opinions. My post was in regards to what Geraldo did. His take on Ronald's past. I personally feel like it made for a lot of drama that could have been discussed at a later time. My primary feeling is that Geraldo chose a side when he reported the way he did....and to add to that.....Nancy grace seems to have chose a side as well. I thought it was disgusting to see the way she looked at Crystal, I think both these parents have been attacked in one way or another and that is something that could wait until the truth about Haleigh's disappearance comes out.

I don't care if Ronald or Crystal used drugs in the past. A drug user's child still deserves to be looked for and Haleigh....because of the home she comes from.... does not deserve to be forgotten because there are issues in the parents history that are less than favorable. Once we know the truth and Haleigh is brought back I will allow my brain to begin to digest the other facts in this case. DCF says they feel RJ is safe with his father. Do I agree with that??? It is besides the point, I am not going to voice my opinions about what is best for these children until Haleigh is home.

 

[Donjeta]

I have no idea why anyone is lying about it. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Dunno... If Ron and accomplice, likely Misty, put the rat there it makes sense IMO for them to lie to LE that they didn't. OTOH, admitting it to TM doesn't seem like a smart thing to do.

If they didn't put the rat there it doesn't really make any sense to me to say that they did. It seems the sort of strange mindgame that I wouldn't try to play with the man who can help search for my daughter. But maybe it's just a really cunning plan which I'm too dense to get.

I cannot figure out any believable motive for TM to lie. He doesn't seem to have anything to gain from telling the story. It's not like this is his only chance to have his fifteen minutes of fame, and he didn't choose media that pays big bucks for exclusives, did he? I think it's unlikely that he'd have personal grudges that would make him want to get revenged in this manner. Maybe he is hard of hearing and misinterpreted some other remark.

The people who reported TM telling the story might have lied to make their story more interesting but they risk being thoroughly discredited since TM and Ron might yelp in unison if someone made up untrue stories about them.

 

[Whisperer]

omg....the" Juvenile"...don't ya just love it when a your spouse is referred to as a "Juvenile"..?

The juvenile witness was identified as weighing 110 lbs...rest of
report blanked out to protect the "child".....

 

[Whisperer]

I have not a single doubt that RC will coerce MC any which way possible to get him out of this. IMO he has already started with making her file a RO on her brother.

He had gone to his neighbors to get him to plea his case to DCF.
He had gone to TM to ask him to talk MC into dropping charges.
He has intimidated HC by placing a headless rodent in the mailbox..true, IMO.

...ooooh, I bet there are plenty more times RC has threatened people or ask others to go plead his case. He is the ultimate example of a person who will never accept any responsibility for anything at anytime...IMO

 

[Malesherbes]

omg....the" Juvenile"...don't ya just love it when a your spouse is referred to as a "Juvenile"..?

The juvenile witness was identified as weighing 110 lbs...rest of
report blanked out to protect the "child".....

I think its embarrassing-

 

[elle1919]

"Basically," "officially... " Dontcha just love legalese attorneyspeak



(snip) No fan of GR either elle lol but must respectfully disagree, as the 'sins' as you refer to them or the discovering and exposing of w/e potential surrounding criminality, histories or just patterns of irresponsibility on the part of the significant players is the very heart and core of any missing child investigation (as well as investigative journalism). Therefore imo for Haleigh's sake there unfortunately IS no better time to have these uncovered and brought to light... except of course if it had been before she disappeared.




But tell us how you really feel whisp...

arrot:

Kiki...you truly have a way with your words. I am just being honest about my feelings and remain on neither Ronald or Crystal's side. I have no problem discussing the history of these parents but have made a choice to refrain from doing that because I feel it takes the focus off of finding Haleigh. When she is brought home I will have much to say I am sure....lol. After that we will be able to examine all the facts as LE has kept those to themselves. I just fail to understand how accusing these parents of wrongdoing will bring Haleigh home. Digging up dirt is quite easy to do and heaven knows I have uncovered a lot in the past few months that I have decided to keep to myself because I want the focus to be on Haleigh.

 

[Whisperer]

When it is said that anyone wants the focus to be on Haleigh, what exactly does that mean? Are we to write only the wonderful things we know about the child? Though nice and heart warming, it doesn't go far in finding her.

Some people will also say "How is that helping find Haleigh?"...well, lead the way, because personally I don't think that I can find her.

Does anyone here think they know where she is?

In profiling the players is where you will find the answers. Knowing their habits, personality, mental issues, comforts and how they operate on a daily basis is what will lead to Haleigh if one of the people being discussed in involved in the crime. In this case, the people that are being discussed are most likely the people that know where Haleigh is. So how does not discussing them help find Haleigh?

 

[Emeralgem]

No, I don't believe he put it there.

WHY? TM stated he admitted doing it.. TM says Ron C told NeJames that too.. There is no doubt in my mind that Ron C thought when he and TN met with TM and NeJame he could admit that to them and nothing would be revealed since he and his family were planning to throw Misty under the bus....Looks like it backfired to me....JMHO

 

[Emeralgem]

I have no idea why anyone is lying about it. Do you have any thoughts on that?

My thoughts on that .. Ron C told TM and Nejames the TRUTH.. He did it.

Ron C thought they would't tell if he told them he did it ONLY to see how well Misty could LIE to police so he could tell if she was lying to him...Most pathetic excuse I have ever heard of...Not to mention what he proved himself to be...
TM told the TRUTH.. Ron C told him he did it...TM told the world.. Ron admitted he did it..... Ron C.. BUSTED for playing two ends against the middle.....His mama too...JMO

 

[Emeralgem]

Kiki...you truly have a way with your words. I am just being honest about my feelings and remain on neither Ronald or Crystal's side. I have no problem discussing the history of these parents but have made a choice to refrain from doing that because I feel it takes the focus off of finding Haleigh. When she is brought home I will have much to say I am sure....lol. After that we will be able to examine all the facts as LE has kept those to themselves. I just fail to understand how accusing these parents of wrongdoing will bring Haleigh home. Digging up dirt is quite easy to do and heaven knows I have uncovered a lot in the past few months that I have decided to keep to myself because I want the focus to be on Haleigh.

Have you entertained the thought that all the dirt you have uncovered is proving to you their focus is not on Haleigh? JMO