Ron C. # 12

[Adrienne37]

How did he support them without a job or child support? He manages to have 3 cars though-

And this is our business why? It looks like Ron supported his children quite fine without any help at all from THEIR BIOLOGICAL MOTHER who was ordered to pay child support and DIDN'T.

I can't believe the lengths that some will go to when making their points known.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Crystal has a young baby at home as well as other children to look after. She has also suffered from health problems/seizures. LE has most likely looked at her, and have apparently found nothing suspicious. She was hours away when Haleigh went missing.

HTH

Actually this proves my point for me. It takes lots of energy and health to be active sexually with men. It is very physical to go through 9 months of pregnancy, child birth deliveries and take care of children physically 24/7. But yet there were already two children here in this world who needed that Motherly care and financial support before the child you mentioned came along from physical activities that are more draining than most regular jobs females perform.

Many people have health issues but work. I've always held my own opinion, but if you can make babies, you can work. I don't buy it for a second otherwise. Then throw in the young age. Sheesh. My mother is 67 years old and works over 40 hours per week out of town daily.

 

[Malesherbes]

And this is our business why? It looks like Ron supported his children quite fine without any help at all from THEIR BIOLOGICAL MOTHER who was ordered to pay child support and DIDN'T.

I can't believe the lengths that some will go to when making their points known.

Because somehow, Ron was doing something to make money, no evidence of any other jobs, didn't need support, and some may just think outside the box and think, hey, maybe Ron was doing something illegal that contributed to HaLeighs disappearance- Its called sleuthing-

 

[curvecuti]

Because somehow, Ron was doing something to make money, no evidence of any other jobs, didn't need support, and some may just think outside the box and think, hey, maybe Ron was doing something illegal that contributed to HaLeighs disappearance- Its called sleuthing-

Didn't need support? CS wasn't sending it! Doesn't mean it wasn't needed. Obvious to me she didn't give a crap what those kids needed.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

We don't know who in Ron's family might be helping out financially or what he might have had in savings. It may also be that he doesn't have any debt, and so his monthly "nut" may be essentially rent on a relatively inexpensive mobile home, food, and utilities. Family and friends may be helping as a way of contributing to the family in this dark time. I've said this before, but it is worth repeating: families of children who have been abducted or murdered go through living hell. The stress puts terrible stress on marriages, often breaking up even strong marriages. It leads to depression, anxiety and other psychological issues for the parents and the child's siblings--much like the death of a small child or teen by natural causes or accident does. We would NEVER question why a parent who lost a child in a car accident or from cancer would not feel able to work, or why grandparents might help out for as long as necessary in any way that they could. Many parents have made searching for their missing children a full-time occupation for years, at great expense. Would we suggest that they just get over it and go get a job at the mall?

A good friend of mine when I was growing up married young and became pregnant. She and her unborn child were killed when a drunk driver hit her, her car and a gas pump in a horrible accident. The family had two younger children but the mother told me two years after her daughter died that she would never be the same again. She couldn't even live in the same HOUSE and the same TOWN. Let's assume, just for a moment, that Ron Cummings had nothing to do with the disappearance of his daughter (as Tim Miller's attorney stated most emphatically on NG just a few minutes ago.) What kind of hell would it be not to know where your beloved little girl is? If any one of us were in that position--how would we close our eyes at night, not knowing where that child was, what was happening to her, or how to find her? People say Ron should be looking for Haleigh. This board is full of cases of missing children and teenagers. All of these parents are looking for their kids. But as Marc Klaas says, a child can disappear at the rate of a mile a minute. Haleigh could literally be anywhere.

We don't know that Ron or his family is on any kind of cash assistance or food stamps and I think it is unfair to even speculate on these matters. None of our business. It is clear that before the tragic disappearance of his daughter, Ron was working. It seems likely that at some point he will work again. In the meantime, let me suggest that the time he is spending with people in the professional world, most particularly his attorneys, is probably the best educational experience of his life. He is learning how to dress professionally, to respond to interview questions, and to maintain his composure in public. Evidently, based on what his attorney said tonight, the people around him are paying attention to his mental and emotional state, and the feedback he gets might contribute to his "emotional intelligence." So it seems to me that when he is ready to go back to work, he may have more to offer than he had as the immature, hot-headed 25-year-old he was before he life got turned upside down.

 

[debs]

Didn't need support? CS wasn't sending it! Doesn't mean it wasn't needed. Obvious to me she didn't give a crap what those kids needed.

He claimed he was making well over $2000 a month. Many people can live off that quite nicely.

 

[Adrienne37]

He claimed he was making well over $2000 a month. Many people can live off that quite nicely.

Again I ask, this is our business why? Also, I guess him making over $2000 excuses the biological mother from paying court-ordered child support???

 

[curvecuti]

He claimed he was making well over $2000 a month. Many people can live off that quite nicely.

GMAB! It doesn't matter if he was making $20000 a month, Crystal had a responsibility to HER children! imo, If the tables were turned, Ron would be crucified for not paying support.

 

[Pondering Mind]

And this is our business why? It looks like Ron supported his children quite fine without any help at all from THEIR BIOLOGICAL MOTHER who was ordered to pay child support and DIDN'T.

I can't believe the lengths that some will go to when making their points known.

Do you know that for a fact? Unless Ron's work record has been posted somewhere that I haven't seen. I haven't read anything that would show that he held consistent employment, more to the contrary. Not saying that he didn't, but if you know more perhaps you could share?
Regardless, If I were a betting woman, which I'm not (I work too hard for my money, lol) but in this case I would stake a years salary that GGM and TN supported Ron and the children for the most part. I do believe from what Busy has posted that up until approx. 4-5 mths. (?) before HaLeigh 'went missing' that they lived with one or the other. Not excusing Crystal at all...she SHOULD have been paying child support, (and I don't believe her claim that she thought that it was being taken out of her check) but NOR do I believe that Ron was solely supporting himself, HaLeigh, and Jr. unless someone has proof otherwise.....That is just My Opinion

 

[alwaysonmymind]

GMAB! It doesn't matter if he was making $20000 a month, Crystal had a responsibility to HER children! imo, If the tables were turned, Ron would be crucified for not paying support.

As does Ron. Why doesn't he pay child support for Jordan?

 

[lonetraveler]

Does anyone know for sure that Crystal did not buy any clothing or shoes or anything at all for her children? I have not seen anything to confirm that just because she was not paying child support that she was not contributing to the children's needs. I did not have full time custody for my two girls but provided love and support and all the clothing, shoes, school tuition, toys, school activities, medical and any other needs for them. I do not understand how people can just skip to the conclusion that Crystal did not provide in any way for her children. I'm sure that the grandmothers also provided for their grandchildren. Don't assume that just because Ron had custody of the children that he adequately provided for them. He worked at various construction work. When projects are completed, they end and you search for the next job. Regular income is not a given. Ron had help from many angles. I have seen no proof that Crystal did not buy things for Haleigh and Jr.

 

[Adrienne37]

Do you know that for a fact? Unless Ron's work record has been posted somewhere that I haven't seen. I haven't read anything that would show that he held consistent employment, more to the contrary. Not saying that he didn't, but if you know more perhaps you could share?
Regardless, If I were a betting woman, which I'm not (I work too hard for my money, lol) but in this case I would stake a years salary that GGM and TN supported Ron and the children for the most part. I do believe from what Busy has posted that up until approx. 4-5 mths. (?) before HaLeigh 'went missing' that they lived with one or the other. Not excusing Crystal at all...she SHOULD have been paying child support, (and I don't believe her claim that she thought that it was being taken out of her check) but NOR do I believe that Ron was solely supporting himself, HaLeigh, and Jr. unless someone has proof otherwise.....That is just My Opinion

I don't believe that I stated anything that needed to be proven as fact. I stated that he supported his children quite fine with the emphasis being on the fact that the biological mother of his children was ordered to pay child support and never paid it until the $12,000 that he received.

I do not nor did profess to know anything at all about Ronald Cummings' work history nor do I care. The way that I see it, it not relevant to the case. I could care less if Mother Teresa supported Ronald Cummings and his children but the point that I was making was that Crystal Sheffield was ordered to pay child support that she wasn't paying and that Ron was supporting the children just fine without her help.

 

[curvecuti]

As does Ron. Why doesn't he pay child support for Jordan?

You know poor little Jordan does not have one thing to do with this case. Amber refuses to have a DNA test done on Jordan. We do not know if Jordan is Rc's child. Amber stated she did not want child support. Amber does not even have custody of Jordan. If Jordan's great grandmother wants Jordan to recieve support she can petition the court, get a DNA test and RC, IF HE IS THE FATHER, will have a court order to pay, same as Crystal does.

That poor, poor baby is always drug out when anyone dares to say CS did not support her children, further proof to me that RC would be crucified if he did not pay. IMO.

 

[Adrienne37]

As does Ron. Why doesn't he pay child support for Jordan?

Has their been a DNA/paternity test to confirm whether or not this child belonged to Ronald Cummings? If there has been, I surely haven't seen it. If there is no DNA/paternity test to establish the fact that he is the child's father, then why should he have to pay child support for a child that might not be his to begin with?

 

[curvecuti]

Does anyone know for sure that Crystal did not buy any clothing or shoes or anything at all for her children? I have not seen anything to confirm that just because she was not paying child support that she was not contributing to the children's needs. I did not have full time custody for my two girls but provided love and support and all the clothing, shoes, school tuition, toys, school activities, medical and any other needs for them. I do not understand how people can just skip to the conclusion that Crystal did not provide in any way for her children. I'm sure that the grandmothers also provided for their grandchildren. Don't assume that just because Ron had custody of the children that he adequately provided for them. He worked at various construction work. When projects are completed, they end and you search for the next job. Regular income is not a given. Ron had help from many angles. I have seen no proof that Crystal did not buy things for Haleigh and Jr.

You are right, it is an assumption on my part. A mother who can't be bothered to get out of bed for her child's Dr. appt's., continues to ause cocaine while pregnant, and doesn't pay support doesn't strike me as the kind of Mom out buying things for those children, but that is MOO.

 

[txsvicki]

As does Ron. Why doesn't he pay child support for Jordan?

And isn't Jordan's grandma raising him? It's so much harder for an average grandparent to financially raise a child than a young able bodied man. That is, if he's the dad he should be helping whether he sees the boy or not.

OOps: I just scanned up and read that the great grandmother has him. Good lord.

 

[Adrienne37]

Does anyone know for sure that Crystal did not buy any clothing or shoes or anything at all for her children? I have not seen anything to confirm that just because she was not paying child support that she was not contributing to the children's needs. I did not have full time custody for my two girls but provided love and support and all the clothing, shoes, school tuition, toys, school activities, medical and any other needs for them. I do not understand how people can just skip to the conclusion that Crystal did not provide in any way for her children. I'm sure that the grandmothers also provided for their grandchildren. Don't assume that just because Ron had custody of the children that he adequately provided for them. He worked at various construction work. When projects are completed, they end and you search for the next job. Regular income is not a given. Ron had help from many angles. I have seen no proof that Crystal did not buy things for Haleigh and Jr.

It doesn't matter what all she might have contributed to the children. The fact is - she was ordered by a judge to pay child support and chose not to pay it. In fact, she could have easily been found in contempt of court over the issue and ordered to go to jail.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Does anyone know for sure that Crystal did not buy any clothing or shoes or anything at all for her children? I have not seen anything to confirm that just because she was not paying child support that she was not contributing to the children's needs. I did not have full time custody for my two girls but provided love and support and all the clothing, shoes, school tuition, toys, school activities, medical and any other needs for them. I do not understand how people can just skip to the conclusion that Crystal did not provide in any way for her children. I'm sure that the grandmothers also provided for their grandchildren. Don't assume that just because Ron had custody of the children that he adequately provided for them. He worked at various construction work. When projects are completed, they end and you search for the next job. Regular income is not a given. Ron had help from many angles. I have seen no proof that Crystal did not buy things for Haleigh and Jr.

I will step up and say, more likely than not either she, or the grandmother bought stuff for the kids when they had visitation on the weekends. We know they bought food. If crystal had her own home to enjoy her weekends with, including electricity, water, phone, transportation and food, then she was supporting them on the weekends for sure as to have a place to exercise her visits.

What bothers me about the arrears child support more than anything, is the no attempt to pay any amounts, even small twenty dollar amounts along the way. Even if she couldn't pay court ordered child support, surely she could have made efforts to give the courts periodic small amounts. You can clean someones' house for fifty and up dollars a day to gain money. It's not fun work, you don't have to be educated, but it's honest money.

 

[snookie]

Actually this proves my point for me. It takes lots of energy and health to be active sexually with men. It is very physical to go through 9 months of pregnancy, child birth deliveries and take care of children physically 24/7. But yet there were already two children here in this world who needed that Motherly care and financial support before the child you mentioned came along from physical activities that are more draining than most regular jobs females perform.

Many people have health issues but work. I've always held my own opinion, but if you can make babies, you can work. I don't buy it for a second otherwise. Then throw in the young age. Sheesh. My mother is 67 years old and works over 40 hours per week out of town daily.

Well, the babies are here, they exist. Sometimes children are not planned, but they are all blessings in my eyes. Apparently God meant for them to grace this earth.

Sticking them in daycare is not always an option.... sometimes you just have to do what you have to do. If Crystal was forking out $100+ a week to pay for childcare for her baby, no doubt people would fuss about that too. As long as she is keeping her child support up to date, I don't see why it matters either way.

As this is the Ronald thread I will say that he is in good health. There is no reason why he cannot work. imo

 

[Pondering Mind]

As does Ron. Why doesn't he pay child support for Jordan?

Good question! I guess because way back in the beginning when asked about J, he said that there was a possibility that J was his. Maybe that doesn't count? Wonder why this Awesome, Responsible dad doesn't/wouldn't find out if J was his... if he even thought that there was a teeny tiny possibility that he is?

(1) maybe not as wonderful as some believe?

(2) doesn't want to pay child support?

(3) doesn't give a chit?

(4) J doesn't need a dad?

(5) J doesn't need food and roof over his head?

(6) IDK, I have often wondered how some fail to miss and/or excuse this, as
this list could go on and on, when the fact is that Ron himself said that there was a possibility that J was his. Do some think that he is lying about that..or that it's just ok?