Ron C. #8

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Shaymus, regarding those machines with little white tapes; I think we can pretty much rule them out. They were in vogue before Misty and maybe RC were born.

LOL DA**, I'm old ! Good thing I'm still good looking (well, sorta).

 

[Whisperer]

LOL DA**, I'm old ! Good thing I'm still good looking (well, sorta).

Well on screen, you look fabulous..:mears:

 

[Emeralgem]

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Do you know if GMSykes has been polygraphed? Because I believe at the time that LE was talking about the "eight hours in question" concerning their interview with Ron, LE was basing the start time of the "eight hours in question" on the time that GMSykes said that she last saw Haleigh (around 7:00 pm). I can see where this statement could be interpreted as an "eight hour work period" for Ron. I also have interpreted this statement coupled with Ron's statement about working for "eight" hours that night. It would definitely put to rest all of the assumptions if LE could just make a press release and rule out certain things. I would help tremendously in narrowing down the "time of opportunity" for Haleigh disappearing or Haleigh being harmed. Well, I guess we just have to wait until LE gives up something. You would think that something as simple as confirm the actual start time and end time of work for Ron would help in tips that might come in.

Excellent observation Lonetraveler. I never looked at it that way. I want to say thanks..This is the second time in several weeks you have helped me understand something I had been pondering for months....First was the reason the story changed in reference to where Haleigh was sleeping, and now the eight hour work schedule.

 

[lonetraveler]

Excellent observation Lonetraveler. I never looked at it that way. I want to say thanks..This is the second time in several weeks you have helped me understand something I had been pondering for months....First was the reason the story changed in reference to where Haleigh was sleeping, and now the eight hour work schedule.

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I was acknowledging that I could understand where people would think how Ron could have worked the full shift and that LE may have based the eight hours on the story GMS told about coming by at 7:00 pm. I said that I could understand how someone would assume that he worked the entire shift. However, I don't believe that he worked the whole shift and nowhere can I find it confirmed that he did work the whole shift. IMO, LE has since stated that they were, in away going to start over with the investigation. I feel that they may have reason to look at a different time line that may not be based upon the hours following the 7:00pm time spot filled in by GMS. I try very hard to try and rule out as many problems with the timeline as possible. In this case, I do not believe the week old story about GMS coming over and seeing Haleigh eating on the porch. Therefore, if this story is thrown out, LE would have to start the timeline at the time that Haleigh got off of the school bus. I have not seen confirmation of Misty's brother coming over at around 5:00 pm either. Since we do not have a statement fron the AC man, we can not assume that he saw anyone visiting while he was there. We also do not know if he remembered seeing Haleigh either. There are many stories out there that have conflicting information about Ron's work hours that night versus what the work shift was suppose to be. I could be totally wrong here, if I am I will gladly admit it, but I think that GMS story will totally be ruled as unsubstantiated and there will be more hours to account for.

 

[lonetraveler]

Mincing words doesn't make it mean something different. The fact that LE has stated they where satisfied with Ron's work scheadual that eavening means 10 hr shift 4:30pm- 3:00am. The timeline that was in question for LE is from 7pm to 3am= 8hrs
(GGsykes Last saw the kids at 7 pm)
The timeline that LE is focused on is within this time frame and they stated they are satisfied with Ron's work alibi during this timeline 7pm - 3am.
This is unbelievable that we are debating the meaning behind LE statements.
LE does not have to clarify this misunderstanding that many seem to be under.

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BBM: You are so right. Mincing words is exactly what you are doing here. The "eight hours" words were what LE stated, not me. They were investigating the hours following the supposedly last time that someone besides Misty supposedly saw a live Haleigh. They were making sure that Ron had not left the plant from the 7:00 pm timeslot that GMS reported seeing her until the 911 call. They are satisfied that he was at work during that time. That is what they were confirming. Not how long Ron was at the plant during that shift. MOO.

 

[Busylady]

Seems so simple to me - LE has said he worked his shift (links have been provided several times on this) separately LE says the time in question is 7 pm to 3 am. They have also stated they are satisfied with RC during that 8 hour time period. (once again links have been provided). JMO I think the only slicing going on is those that wanna make the work hours fit RUMORS that are out there. I haven't seen where RC directly said he worked 8 hours - a pastor stated that. People wanna believe the pastors statement, yet they don't wanna believe when Marie said the neighbor saw Haleigh that night because it isn't a direct quote from the neighbor lol. I am also sure some of you listen to TJ Hart today explain his shift was 4:30pm to 3:00 am and police know he worked his shift. JMO

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Glad you're on line, BL. I've been trying for days to pin down what happened to Ron's Beretta the night Haleigh went missing. The LE report documents his threat to use it, but not LE's confiscation of this weapon. Do you have a source where I can go to confirm that LE took that gun that evening ? TIA

 

[lonetraveler]

Seems so simple to me - LE has said he worked his shift (links have been provided several times on this) separately LE says the time in question is 7 pm to 3 am. They have also stated they are satisfied with RC during that 8 hour time period. (once again links have been provided). JMO I think the only slicing going on is those that wanna make the work hours fit RUMORS that are out there. I haven't seen where RC directly said he worked 8 hours - a pastor stated that. People wanna believe the pastors statement, yet they don't wanna believe when Marie said the neighbor saw Haleigh that night because it isn't a direct quote from the neighbor lol. I am also sure some of you listen to TJ Hart today explain his shift was 4:30pm to 3:00 am and police know he worked his shift. JMO

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No, links have not been provided confirming that Ron worked his entire shift. If you have one, simply send it.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

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No, links have not been provided confirming that Ron worked his entire shift. If you have one, simply send it.

LOL We missed her, lone. Got to get these fingers working quicker, I guess. :crazy:

 

[lonetraveler]

LOL We missed her, lone. Got to get these fingers working quicker, I guess. :crazy:

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I've googled the question about when Ron clocked in at work and can find no information at all. I guess it is a big secret.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

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I've googled the question about when Ron clocked in at work and can find no information at all. I guess it is a big secret.

IMO, no verifiable information regarding the exact hours Ron was, or wasn't, at work has been released. Lots of speculation, lots of deduction, lots of wordsmithing. But hard evidence ? Not IMO.

 

[Busylady]

I remember reading about the gun being taken and given back, but I have searched and searched for the article that talks about the gun and LE and have not been able to find it as of yet. I am beginning to wonder if it is something I read downstairs and there was no article, but I will keep looking and let you know what I come up with.

Glad you're on line, BL. I've been trying for days to pin down what happened to Ron's Beretta the night Haleigh went missing. The LE report documents his threat to use it, but not LE's confiscation of this weapon. Do you have a source where I can go to confirm that LE took that gun that evening ? TIA

 

[Busylady]

If you go back thru these threads there is a link to AH that explains he worked his shift per LE or you can search my post as I have posted it two or three times in the last week or so.

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No, links have not been provided confirming that Ron worked his entire shift. If you have one, simply send it.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Is RC covering for Misty. Did he ask her about the movies?..were there really two separate tapes of Air Buds and Madagascar in the VCR? Did LE confiscate only one tape (from player?)? ON the police report, it states one tape recovered from Ron's MH. Are people saying that it was a recording tape from an answering machine?

I don't see any real reason to battle it out over which tape was taken and if there was a movie in either VCR! Haleigh would know how to eject a tape and could have done that herself if there wasn't a movie in one of them. Heck, Rj could have hit the darn button and done it. There really was no reason for LE to even take one of those kid movies! NONE.

Maybe the tape they confiscated had nothing to do with the kids at all and it was a family video or something they wanted to check out.

 

[Busylady]

I have wondered if it was a CD of pics of Haleighand family. It appears the Cummings have bunches of pics so maybe it was just a photo CD as well as the 8x10 that LE took. The walk thru shows the one DVD in the player in the bedroom.

I don't see any real reason to battle it out over which tape was taken and if there was a movie in either VCR! Haleigh would know how to eject a tape and could have done that herself if there wasn't a movie in one of them. Heck, Rj could have hit the darn button and done it. There really was no reason for LE to even take one of those kid movies! NONE.

Maybe the tape they confiscated had nothing to do with the kids at all and it was a family video or something they wanted to check out.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

If you go back thru these threads there is a link to AH that explains he worked his shift per LE or you can search my post as I have posted it two or three times in the last week or so.

Or they could go to AH's site and find it.

I am beginning to feel like if the Sheriff himself came online and told people that Ronald was at work, they are satisfied with his interviews, and that they were ONLY interested in the specific 8 hour span...some people would probably argue with him. :bang:

One thing is certain tho...Haleigh MUST have been seen and been verified to be alive until 7:00pm. PERIOD.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I have wondered if it was a CD of pics of Haleighand family. It appears the Cummings have bunches of pics so maybe it was just a photo CD as well as the 8x10 that LE took. The walk thru shows the one DVD in the player in the bedroom.

Could very well be family photos. I see absolutely no reason to take the kid movies. I am sure they aren't interested in watching Airbud or the other one. LOL There is really no evidence to be gained from those videos, imo.

 

[orbison11]

Could very well be family photos. I see absolutely no reason to take the kid movies. I am sure they aren't interested in watching Airbud or the other one. LOL There is really no evidence to be gained from those videos, imo.

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unless they were interested in a time stamp kind of thing,,,ie misty said they 'watched' the movies, they are what, 75 minutes or so, to see where they were stopped, etc,,
just thinking out loud here

orb

 

[Whisperer]

Misty said they watched the movies separately. If there was only one of those two tapes in there, it shows deception. There should be two tapes in two different VCRs

Of course, we are going to hear she removed one for some reason, at some time between washing blankets or something.

They would take the tape for fingerprints, etc.

 

[cajun]

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Just to follow up on that, Captain, quite often in
other criminal cases, let..s say when a woman is murdered, usually
immediately police look at the significant other, the husband or
boyfriend.

And then as his alibi is verified and they find out
yes, he was spotted at work at the time, and that person is formally
excluded as a suspect, that..s what I..m talking about.

Obviously, for example, Ron..s alibi was that he was at work. And that..s firm, right?

SHAULAND:
That..s correct. That is his alibi and he was at work. We were able to
check that. However, again we don..t know what happened to Haleigh and
we don..t when it happened.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/27/ijvm.01.html