Ron C. #9

[Whisperer]

Information gathered says February 11th was date of interview.

 

[Emeralgem]

For the record here is a link to another video where he says somebody stole my child out of "MY" bed..


http://www.news4jax.com/video/18684460/

 

[CeeKer]

OH Ceeker....nice try...and deflection, I might add. The video is about Ron lying/not lying...which is it BTW?

This was before the issue of custody was filed and KP entered. Ron did not have a chance at the time of THIS interview as the Custody and Crystal wanting JP with her so he would be safe had not been filed yet.

I guess you missed the point of the video interview posted above #75...RC said both children were in bed with Misty as Misty reported to LE and it is documented on the incident Report in the Sheriff's department.

Whisperer, can you quote or post a number of the post. I'm lost. I have no clue what video you mean LOL. I've been pouring through stuff and have posted so many links today I really have lost it

 

[Whisperer]

Page 3, Post #75 of this thread

 

[CeeKer]

Re: the discussion about the inconsistencies regarding the beds. I don't disagree there were inconsistencies, Misty said different stuff, RC repeated, Misty said stuff, RC repeated. Who knows why Misty was inconsistent, communication skills, verbal idiosyncracies, whatever. Ron just repeated what she said. I searched all day for the video of the presser where LE was asked about the bed inconsistencies. Still can't find it, IRRC they basically said they had the bed thing nailed down.

But really, if everybody says he was at work, how can we "beat" him for the bed inconsistency?

The only inconsistencies after the first week or so LE talked about were "timeline" inconsistencies. I think possibly it's because Misty passed the poly on that question, or whatever, but they dropped the whole "where everyone was sleeping" issue pretty early on.

Ron was at work. LE has stated it several times.

Early On:
Schauland added that Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, was at work when she disappeared. "Yes, he was at work. His alibi stands."
http://www.cbs12.com/news/haleigh-4714658-schauland-leads.html

He said Haleigh's father's alibi, that he was at work, had been confirmed.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/18/florida.missing.girl/index.html

And more recently
So far, Cummings has a solid alibi. Not only do co-workers like Zastrow tell police they recall him on property, even taking his dinner break in the cafeteria, but The Bald Truth has learned exclusively that Cummings cell phone pings came from cell towers by the steel plant.

“We had two phone pings that show he never left the plant,” a lead law enforcement investigator on the case tells me in an exclusive interview. “There’s a cell tower that covers the plant and it hits when he gets there…We don’t have pings from any other tower” during his shift. “And we have people who saw him there throughout the night, as secondary backup.”
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dads-solid-alibi/

 

[Whisperer]

I have no doubt he was at work at some time. What time?

I keep reading on this board about this Zastrow. Has the person that interviewed ever mentioned the time period he noticed RC and by any chance what the shift hours were.

Why don't these people who do the story get the facts. Jounalism 101, is who, what, when, where. WTH is wrong with this? I want the time. I know about cell towers. Give me some numbers....lats and longs matching RC's phone. How many phones does RC own. Does he have a locker at the plant?

Oh, I want to interview this guy, Zastrow....badly.

 

[Whisperer]

RC could have come to work late. He could have left early. He cold have worked 8 hours. He could have worked 10 hours. Heck he could have worked 12 hours.

The plant doesn't want the hours out there. The LE doesn't want the hours out there? I can think of reasons for that, anyone else?

 

[Emeralgem]

Re: the discussion about the inconsistencies regarding the beds. I don't disagree there were inconsistencies, Misty said different stuff, RC repeated, Misty said stuff, RC repeated. Who knows why Misty was inconsistent, communication skills, verbal idiosyncracies, whatever. Ron just repeated what she said. I searched all day for the video of the presser where LE was asked about the bed inconsistencies. Still can't find it, IRRC they basically said they had the bed thing nailed down.

Are you stating this as fact? If you are, it is not known that Ron C just repeated what Misty said.
I've seen the interview with GVS, Ron doesn't allow Misty to say too much of anything without correcting her. It's my opinion Ron C is the one who told her what to say in the first place.

BTW.. How did he know where the beds were placed that night since he claimed he was at work?

YouTube - Haleigh Cummings' father, Ronald Cummings' Interview by Greta Van Susteren

 

[Whisperer]

Thanks Emeral for the other video.

RC states on the 10, 11th..the children and misty were together in his bed.

On the 12, 13, he changes this to the same room and separated Haleigh from the other two.

We did not hear when jr joined Misty, she said he came in later to join Haleigh and her. RC says Misty came in later to join jr and Haleigh.

See, the truth doesn't work like this. This is not a traffic light violation, this is a criminal investigation involving a child. You can add details later as you recall but you never change the important facts mid-stream.

They are lying..IMO.

 

[CeeKer]

I hear your pain Whisperer LOL. It would be lovely if someone would come out and clear up some simple details for us! But I have to believe at this point in time LE has investigated the issue thoroughly, esp. in light of internet rumors. If they've made statement as recently as last week (per Simon's Radio Show/TJhart, don't know if I can link tho) that so far he was at work, I can't see how he knows what bed they were in if LE's 7:00 timeline still stands. I "assume" he was there at the start of his shift tho since LE knows what time he got there by the ping, we just don't LOL.

 

[CeeKer]

Page 3, Post #75 of this thread

I'm still lost LOL. I thought you were talking about a post of mine? You addressed Post 75 to SS tho, so I'm still confused about what you're saying/asking. I'm sure it's not you tho, my brain is really mush right now.

OH Ceeker....nice try...and deflection, I might add. The video is about Ron lying/not lying...which is it BTW?

This was before the issue of custody was filed and KP entered. Ron did not have a chance at the time of THIS interview as the Custody and Crystal wanting JP with her so he would be safe had not been filed yet.

 

[Whisperer]

I also believe they did an investigation.

They have no evidence to charge the two in question. Happens often. There are lies, that's it. No crime in MH. Timeline and story is off....so what! We can scream and kick the car but LE is not able to do anything.

This is going on the same chapter as the Tara Grinstead case. Small town, good ole boys and the town's people never took it any further, they wanted it to go away....and it did.

 

[Whisperer]

Ceeker, after the video, your post started talking about Custody and how I proved your point. I was trying to stay on topic of Ron's telling that both children were in the same bed with misty...

maybe miscommunication or you were reading behind and responding to something else...sorry if you were responding to another post.

I do not have quote buttons so I can't do too much when people post except respond to a remark w/o quoting. I was told till I get buttons I can't quote, so I am at a loss on this board.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

One reason LE doesn't know specifically about the crime that WAS committed in that mh, imo, is because they failed to test all of the evidence. The answer could be found within those items if they were to show an intruder's DNA or prints, but due to their incompetence...it will now take much longer to determine if they have anything else to go on to further the case.

 

[Whisperer]

Can we now get back to the reason Ron said what he said about the bed situation.

1. was he covering up
2. was he reapeating what was told w/o wondering if it was the truth
3. when the story changed, why did he agree and state the new story/ At this point, a thinking person with a new friend would wonder "wait a second".
4. He never wavered and went along with it.
5. When questioned, why the change, he said I have no idea how the story ever got started. #$#$, he started it..He and Misty! Big Red Flag here!

...............why the change in the story? This is the biggest part of the case.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Does it really make a difference since Ronald wasn't there anyway? Maybe Misty did tell him they were sleeping together and he thought she meant in his bed when she really meant in the same room. This could easily be the reason for his earlier statements and why they changed.

I don't see it makes one ounce of difference in finding Haleigh. She is not at the mh. She isn't sleeping in her bed or any other bed right now where she should be in the care of people who dearly love her. She is missing. How is figuring out which bed she was in or why there is a discrepency about it going to give us a location of where she is now?

 

[Whisperer]

Oh my....pardon me...But this is the BIGGEST part of the case.

Where the child was and when she went missing is where the investigation starts. Dismissing lies as to where Haleigh was sleeping as not important is not cool, not cool at all.

They are now lacking the key to the case. Misty stated they were in the bed. Ron backed her. Misty changed her story, why?

When you answer that you will likely have an idea of who took Haleigh....

 

[CeeKer]

Originally Posted by CeeKer View Post
Re: the discussion about the inconsistencies regarding the beds. I don't disagree there were inconsistencies, Misty said different stuff, RC repeated, Misty said stuff, RC repeated. Who knows why Misty was inconsistent, communication skills, verbal idiosyncracies, whatever. Ron just repeated what she said. I searched all day for the video of the presser where LE was asked about the bed inconsistencies. Still can't find it, IRRC they basically said they had the bed thing nailed down.

Are you stating this as fact? If you are, it is not known that Ron C just repeated what Misty said.
I've seen the interview with GVS, Ron doesn't allow Misty to say too much of anything without correcting her. It's my opinion Ron C is the one who told her what to say in the first place.

BTW.. How did he know where the beds were placed that night since he claimed he was at work?

I must be getting tired my verbiage is slipping. What I should have said was I think it is very possible in light of his being at work per recent statements of LE (linked in another post) that Misty said different stuff, RC repeated, Misty said stuff, RC repeated. .

Re first bolded in your post. I think it's possible that Ron was trying to help her get the story out because she is so woefully lacking in communication skills IMO. I think it's interesting that in the Meredith Viera interview RC was roundly slammed precisely for not helping her out.

Re Second bolded in your post. Possibly Misty told him and he believed her. Possibly he assumed they were in the positition they were in every night and he had no reason to believe they'd been moved. Possibly he saw where they were when he got home and assumed that was the position they were in a few hours before...

 

[CeeKer]

Ceeker, after the video, your post started talking about Custody and how I proved your point. I was trying to stay on topic of Ron's telling that both children were in the same bed with misty...

maybe miscommunication or you were reading behind and responding to something else...sorry if you were responding to another post.

I do not have quote buttons so I can't do too much when people post except respond to a remark w/o quoting. I was told till I get buttons I can't quote, so I am at a loss on this board.

Ok thanks Whisperer. I'm sure I wasn't following because I'm scatterbrained right now. I even just annoyed hubby cuz I wasn't following his conversation. Time to take a little break I think LOL

Did you try to hit refresh Whisperer? Usually that brings the buttons back.

 

[Whisperer]

Does it really make a difference since Ronald wasn't there anyway? Maybe Misty did tell him they were sleeping together and he thought she meant in his bed when she really meant in the same room. This could easily be the reason for his earlier statements and why they changed.

I don't see it makes one ounce of difference in finding Haleigh. She is not at the mh. She isn't sleeping in her bed or any other bed right now where she should be in the care of people who dearly love her. She is missing. How is figuring out which bed she was in or why there is a discrepency about it going to give us a location of where she is now?

You are in luck SS...I had on little quote key this time when I checked in and it was on your post.

I am going to interpret your post the BBM part. You are saying where Haleigh was at when she disappeared is not important because she is missing and it doesn't make any difference?

According to you the bed stuff doesn't matter? Is that because you have no answer to the question of why they changed the story? Or maybe you don't want to think about that stuff or possibilities for lies. We have to find out why they lied.

The exact location of where Haleigh was when taken is the entire case. It is where it starts, where the evidence is, and the key to finding the perp.