Ron C thread #14

[Whisperer]

There are way too many red flags with this case. I do not believe in conspiracy cases....never had but I am beginning to wonder how many people know what happened to Haleigh.

...I do not see rc ever talking about it but I do see Misty as a chatterbox. Ron's role, if he knows what happened would be along the threatening and intimidation manner of approach to anyone who knew what happened and told. It is very difficult to keep this under wraps so I don't know how this is working out.

I can see Misty losing her temper and harming Haleigh. I can see Ron losing his temper but I don't know how far it would go with Haleigh...just not sure. Now if he told Misty to discipline and she lost it then they both are culpable...after all this time I have not come to a definite conclusion on how this went down. Ron is covering for Misty though so he is either directly involved or thinks he would be held responsible anyway so is in 'protect her' mode. Of course it could also be opposite but if misty felt heat she would give up ron if she were not involved. My gut keeps telling me he has threatened the family and they take him VERY seriously.

The people involved or have knowledge want to get out of town and away from ron cummings...imo. Timmy, chelsea and JO have made it so far.

 

[Emeralgem]

(BBM)


Well I'll double-dare Ronald; Start telling law enforcement the whole truth and nothing but the truth so that they CAN find your daughter - get off your arse and start talking some truth!!
JMHO -

Well, in keeping with the spirit of the season lets cut to the chase and go with the ...coup de grace of all dares, the sinister triple-dog-dare ...I remember that one from.. The Christmas Story..

 

[SoSueMe]

Dee10, you are right, it wouldn't seem like a hard question would it?

But, after the father of a missing child was kind enough to give the media a statement in regards to how he would be spending Thanksgiving, and the statement was then twisted and turned and used to once again make RC look like a neglectful father that was not going to be spending his day with his son, but chose to instead eat with friends and keep Junior away from his "family", wait lets not forget, he might be dating a stripper now, lol....I mean I personally do not question at all why RC would ignore the media's questions. He doesn't owe anyone an explanation about how the Christmas holiday is going to affect him.

Nobody believes a word he says do they? So why does everyone want a statement from him? Is it too much of a stretch to believe that RC doesn't care about pleasing the bloggers or the media anymore with a statement about his grief when he is only going to be mocked and called a liar? Just my opinion, but I wouldn't give a statement about that either.

As far as the FBI taking over the case, and how he or Crystal are feeling about that, I have to believe that these parents would be happy about anyone and everyone that are asking questions about Haleigh's disappearance, I honestly have to just wait to get a few more facts about it before I can make a comment really, I am still a little confused by the FCN article and the SKY article, and the way they are representing the grandmother's statements, best thing for me to do is wait until we have some more info. : )

No, RC doesn't owe the public anything, but if he has the cojones to ask for money so he can keep vigil, then he should learn how to play ball with the public. IMO, asking for monetary handouts without giving anything back takes a lot of nerve.

 

[Emeralgem]

Actually, nms--and twall--a bullet intended to target or threaten MC but which she manages to elude (as farfetched as it appears at times more based upon the lack of physical evidence and witness hearing anything, than RC's temperament or capabilities) which strikes and fatally injures Haleigh, truly isn't that far out of the realm of possibility IMO... I just can't come up w anywhere this could have taken place where it would neither be heard, nor any trace found. Can either of you? ETA It is a shared culpability scenario thus would explain many things, and I'm right there w you re timeline, can quite readily envision this occurring very shortly after leaving bus stop. No problem w that whatsoever, it's what I've in fact long believed. JMO

arrot:

I'm trying to figure that one out too...Where was Misty headed after she picked up Haleigh? Could he have caught up with her when she was in the van? Could they have pulled off on a side road? Did she go to Timmy's house in Crescent City?

 

[lil momma]

I might have missed something, but i don't recall anyone ever statinag that the A/C guy was a Ron relative. I thought i read that the A/C guy worked for the "same company" as a relative of Ron, (Eliza's/ Katrina's hubby or ex hubby worked for the same company, and that is how Misty remembered the name, b/c it was the same one the relative worked for)

someone please correct me if i am wrong. TIA

ETA: i don't think the A/C guy, if not a relative of Ron, could confirm whether HaLeigh was there or not, only b/c there were other children there (tommy's children) and they were all outside. this is all JMO, i am brainstorming this morning!

 

[Gotarugrat]

Is it true Crystal's boyfriend Chad say HaLeigh and Junior did not want to go back to their father after a weekend visit with their mom?

I woudln't put much stock in this even if JR did say it. It isn't unusual for a child who has to go back and forth between parents to tell EACH PARENT (Custodial and NONcustodial) that they don't want to go back to the other parents house.
It has a whole lot less to do with which parent is the better parent in the child's eyes and more to do with the fact that kids need their lives to be consistant. They don't like being uprooted every other weekend and couple of nights a week to go back and forth.

 

[lil momma]

Someone was looking for a pic of the John boat behind GGS's house the other day but I can't remember who or what thread I was on at the time. I found one that I had so I'll post it here and in the GGS's thread, hoping that whoever was asking about it will find it here.

nms- THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! That was me looking for it. I have searched all weekend, and feel like my eyes are buldging out of my head! :blowkiss:

 

[Gotarugrat]

Absolutely! I'm not interested in those things either emeral... as I said in a post on another thread he can always just say no comment, or say simply I'm not discussing anything further at this time, like most adults would. (even under circumstances such as this) ...don't know why he would if he has nothing to hide . ..I can't imagine anyone being worried about what others were saying if their child was missing :waitasec: but each to their own, we are all different)

I would have just thought that surely since this vigil was not private that Ronald would jump at the chance to speak to HaLeigh if he truly thought she was alive and out there 'somewhere'. To let her not us hear his voice telling her he was still looking for her and would never stop as long as he was breathing...offer a comforting word from her daddy...IDK, I just can't imagine NOT doing that and obviously Crystal is not, soo...I guess nobody will, cause AFAIK nobody did! not even GGMS, even though I totally agree with you....why in the world do they insist on babying him?..he is a Grown Man...I mean really, even if one believes that he is innocent and a complete victim in this nightmare (I don't believe that, but that's neither here nor there) he has to deal with his own grief himself, nobody can do that for him, they can be there with and for him, but that's something that he has to learn on your own..for himself and Jr....as much as we would like to protect our children from having to deal with the toughest issues in life..we can't. Anyway that's jmho, but then again, I'm prolly 2 sheets shy of a straight jacket, what do I know?..........I still say everything else aside that it disturbed me greatly that no one especially Ron didn't offer up any words of comfort to his baby girl on the off chance that she may hear them ...that spoke volumes to me, wasn't a surprise by any stretch, but I guess I keep hoping I am wrong..

I know that everyone handles their emotions in different ways, but I 100% agree with you. Why isn't everyone in that family, but more specifically the parents running to the media pleading with them to let them get a message to their child especially this time of year?

I have only two conclusions.
1. They know where she is and can already get a message to her.
or
2. They believe (or know) she is dead.

 

[nomoresorrow]

(Respectfully Snipped)
Originally Posted by lil momma;
nms- THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! That was me looking for it. I have searched all weekend, and feel like my eyes are buldging out of my head!

Your welcome lil momma - I'm glad that I was able to find it!!

NMS -

 

[newstome]

I don't believe Ron gives a rat's a$$,(pardon the pun) about what the bloggers, media or anyone think about what he does or doesn't do.
His Mother and Grandmother are the ones, I believe who get upset with all those things.

 

[Flossie JMO]

I don't believe Ron gives a rat's a$$,(pardon the pun) about what the bloggers, media or anyone think about what he does or doesn't do.
His Mother and Grandmother are the ones, I believe who get upset with all those things.

ITA newstome

 

[elle1919]

I might have missed something, but i don't recall anyone ever statinag that the A/C guy was a Ron relative. I thought i read that the A/C guy worked for the "same company" as a relative of Ron, (Eliza's/ Katrina's hubby or ex hubby worked for the same company, and that is how Misty remembered the name, b/c it was the same one the relative worked for)

someone please correct me if i am wrong. TIA

ETA: i don't think the A/C guy, if not a relative of Ron, could confirm whether HaLeigh was there or not, only b/c there were other children there (tommy's children) and they were all outside. this is all JMO, i am brainstorming this morning!

Many here claim that the AC Man was a relative of RC. I didn't believe it but could not confirm if it was or wasn't. Saying the AC man is a relative would help to fortify that no person other than family saw Haleigh alive after school that day. Perhaps RC did know the AC man, according to Misty she gave RC the phone to speak with him while he was there and RC was at work.

 

[lil momma]

Many here claim that the AC Man was a relative of RC. I didn't believe it but could not confirm if it was or wasn't. Saying the AC man is a relative would help to fortify that no person other than family saw Haleigh alive after school that day. Perhaps RC did know the AC man, according to Misty she gave RC the phone to speak with him while he was there and RC was at work.

BBM

about the bolded ...

I have done this too, my dad had to be somewhere and i had to go to the house and wait on the electrician. My dad didn't know him, and i didn't know why the guy had to come to my parents house. So when he got there i had to call my dad so he could tell the guy what was wrong.

I agree about the A/C guy, i am just going by the only LE said about him, and that is that he is cleared. (not that i thought he had anything to do with HaLeigh gone missing) I guess we will have to wait on that one till the Sunshine Law takes effect (of course that won't happen until an arrest is made )

 

[Gotarugrat]

You know, I've slept a couple of times in the last few months so I may have missed it, but I thought that the AC man was the only person who HAD been cleared by LE.

 

[twall]

I might have missed something, but i don't recall anyone ever statinag that the A/C guy was a Ron relative. I thought i read that the A/C guy worked for the "same company" as a relative of Ron, (Eliza's/ Katrina's hubby or ex hubby worked for the same company, and that is how Misty remembered the name, b/c it was the same one the relative worked for)

someone please correct me if i am wrong. TIA

ETA: i don't think the A/C guy, if not a relative of Ron, could confirm whether HaLeigh was there or not, only b/c there were other children there (tommy's children) and they were all outside. this is all JMO, i am brainstorming this morning!

You are correct, the A/C guy is not a relative of Ron's.
Misty states in either the LVA or hypnosis video released to the public that the A/C guy is the FORMER HUSBAND TO A COUSIN OF RON'S.

 

[Pondering Mind]

ITA newstome

Flossie..we FINALLY agree on something then! (besides wanting HaLeigh found that is )

I agree that Ron doesn't really give a ratz azz (as newstome said :snooty what "the public" thinks of him and it's the grandmothers that these kind of things bother. I see that and I understand that, so in my mind ALL the more reason for Ron to handle his 'bidness', stand up and be a man in this tragic situation...jmho..

 

[Pondering Mind]

I know that everyone handles their emotions in different ways, but I 100% agree with you. Why isn't everyone in that family, but more specifically the parents running to the media pleading with them to let them get a message to their child especially this time of year?

I have only two conclusions.
1. They know where she is and can already get a message to her.
or
2. They believe (or know) she is dead.

Exactly! That's what sends shivers down my spine, it's like it never even occured to anyone to talk to her, comfort her, let HaLeigh know that no one would stop looking for her. WHY?

People do handle things differently to be sure Gotargrat, it just seems that if Ron really believed that HaLeigh is alive and possibly being held, even if one thought there were even the slightest chance of that, why is no one trying to get a message to her? In my minds eye, (while sadly I believe that your 2nd conclusion is true) I can just picture HaLeighbug sitting at some undisclosed location, hearing GGMS on tv and nobody even speaking directly to her. Just strikes me as very odd and terribly sad, but that's jmho..

 

[doobiedoo52]

I might have missed something, but i don't recall anyone ever statinag that the A/C guy was a Ron relative. I thought i read that the A/C guy worked for the "same company" as a relative of Ron, (Eliza's/ Katrina's hubby or ex hubby worked for the same company, and that is how Misty remembered the name, b/c it was the same one the relative worked for)

someone please correct me if i am wrong. TIA

ETA: i don't think the A/C guy, if not a relative of Ron, could confirm whether HaLeigh was there or not, only b/c there were other children there (tommy's children) and they were all outside. this is all JMO, i am brainstorming this morning!

The only thing he would be able to do maybe is say if there was a little girl there. Haleigh would have been the only girl--Tommy's 2 older ones were boys plus JR. Even if he didn't know them, he might have remembered a little girl since she was the only one.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Flossie..we FINALLY agree on something then! (besides wanting HaLeigh found that is )

I agree that Ron doesn't really give a ratz azz (as newstome said :snooty what "the public" thinks of him and it's the grandmothers that these kind of things bother. I see that and I understand that, so in my mind ALL the more reason for Ron to handle his 'bidness', stand up and be a man in this tragic situation...jmho..

bbm, yes we agree on that, the other, nope

 

[Pondering Mind]

bbm, yes we agree on that, the other, nope

oops, sorry..I thought you agreed w/newstome..:blushing:

either way, we all do want HaLeigh found, and today would be great if the powers that be are listening. raying: