Teresa N, Haleigh's paternal grandmother #3

[nomoresorrow]

In the Casy case, they participated by questioning the players. They could do this with this case, but I don't think some of these players would like that.

From what I gathered with the interviews of the players, mainly the anthonys, FBI were doing profiles of each of them and gathering a good profile on casey. The FBI did not take over in that case just assisted in getting information about the individuals and how to deal with them.

My guess is if the players in this case wanted to talk to FBI, they would be more than happy to interview them. Caution: you better be careful about what you wish for.

lol, I was thinking the same thing Whisperer; Be careful what you wish for! But in all honesty, if I were Captain Dominic Piscitello/Sheriff Jeff Hardy, I'd be on the phone ASAP requesting (inviting) the FBI's full resources/assistance with this case. It should have been done, IMO, four months ago when there were signs of distrust mounting within the community locally as well as the general public's increasingly expressed concerns regarding possible improprieties within the County's LE, coupled with the fact that talks had come to a near or complete stand-still with those most important to this investigation - whether involved or not - and that is the family members. IMO - regardless if there are improprieties OR not within the PCSO, they aren't trusted -whether real or imagined- people don't go to those that they don't trust to disclose information, they just don't. Rather than make this into an on-going battle between the Haleigh's family and the PCSO - Captain Piscitello and Sheriff Hardy need to swallow their pride and call in the FBI. If there is no basis for the claims/charges that are being made
against the PCSO, than they can rest assured that their department, in the end, will be vindicated.

Keep in mind that it is the FBI's timeline...
http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=63252&refresh=1
(BBM)

"Sixteen FBI agents flew in to work on timelines on Feb. 11, 2009 and other agencies assisting that day included: St. Johns County, Flagler County, Volusia County, Marion County, the Florida Dept. of Law Enforcement, the State Attorney, 7th Circuit and various Fla. volunteer emergency service groups, Inv. Merchant said.
Team Adam was on the scene for Day 2 of the search and Texas Equusearch arrived on Day 3 and began their search the next day."

 

[nomoresorrow]

I flip flop a lot on Teresa's involvement, what she knows about Haleigh's disappearance,
is she in denial? Does she know but doesn't want to believe her son could have anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance? Does she believe Ron's lies if he is telling her any?Kind of like Cindy A. but Teresa is harder to read, imo.

I feel the same way Twall. I just watched the video of the vigil at GGS's and the poem she wrote broke my heart - now I'm not saying that I'm right here but whenever I see TN's tears and the way she looks at Ronald when she's crying, I get a very strong vibe that her and Ronald share the knowledge that Haleigh is no longer on this earth - JMO

 

[tehcloser]

The problem is, if TN and MG have got themselves involved with this TH guy it will not turn out good. This guy sees corruption everywhere he turns. For Gods sake........he thinks someone stole his fingerprints!!!!!!!!!! Do any of you really think that anyone in the FBI or anywhere else for that matter is going to pay attention to him? All this is going to do is contribute to the circus that is surrounding this case already. How many times does this guy claim to have died already? Yeah........Haleigh needs this. GMAB.

 

[LFlorida]

I think you hit the nail square on the head w/ that one Busy.

Well, not in my opinion, since FBI has been in charge since Day 1.

Per one of my LE friends, the investigation will continue until someone in Washington, D.C. tells them to stop the investigation.

See Dept. of Justice website re: their CART [modeled on FL, btw.]

JMO & JWIH

 

[LFlorida]

I agree, that whole grandmothers story needs its own thread. [And the vigil, too, imo.]

Now - did anybody ever come up w/independent confirmation of Teresa's employment at ACSO? tia

 

[LFlorida]

I am going out on a limb here, but isn't it possible that TN believed in the beginning that Misty couldn't have hurt Haleigh? How many of us have felt a certain way about a person, only to change our minds over time. I think she knows a lot more about Misty and maybe her son, than she did in the beginning of this case. She may have had motive to praise Misty in the beginning to protect her son or support a wedding to keep him out of jail, but over time she has to have seen what we are seeing. So maybe her and Marie have had enough and want this to end, no matter what it means in the end.

To your first question - NO.

You think she would protect her son from an iffy case of Statutory Rape to the exclusion of being suspicious of the last person reported to be with her granddaughter AND watch the child's father possibly marry the murderer/child-seller/whatever that was responsible for his child's "vanishing"? I don't. No way.


Stinks of Hink way too much to me.


Yes, my initial opiinions of people have changed over time and circumstance, but if I were in her position, my opinion of Misty would have gone to the basement that night and I would have been very suspicious of her.

Teresa is not blind or stupid, imo.

 

[LFlorida]

We do not know how often either side of the family has spoken to LE there are many different versions out there. There are many things IMO that have happened during the investigation that the families are aware of that the general public is not.

If you believed there was corruption and you gave them info and they didn't followup up or misplaced evidence would you continue to want to work with them or would you be shouting from the roof tops that you want someone else to handle the investigation that you trust will process evidence, will follow up on leads, will investigate thoroughly, that will have Haleighs best interest at heart not a different agenda.

bbm, BL. What evidence of corruption?

Is this a theoretical question or did it really happen?

I do believe I would at least tell the main-stream media about it, preferably one of the more respected local TV stations, if not a national [legitimate] one.

JMO & ATJ

 

[Baxter]

In the Casy case, they participated by questioning the players. They could do this with this case, but I don't think some of these players would like that.

From what I gathered with the interviews of the players, mainly the anthonys, FBI were doing profiles of each of them and gathering a good profile on casey. The FBI did not take over in that case just assisted in getting information about the individuals and how to deal with them.

My guess is if the players in this case wanted to talk to FBI, they would be more than happy to interview them. Caution: you better be careful about what you wish for.

Do you remember the Anthony's, thinking they called the FBI to become involved in the case? When the meeting occurred, the FBI was fully aware of everything, since they were on the case from the beginning. Cindy became furious that her FBI conversation was taped.

 

[Kimster]

I agree, that whole grandmothers story needs its own thread. [And the vigil, too, imo.]

Now - did anybody ever come up w/independent confirmation of Teresa's employment at ACSO? tia

Feel free to open them! I would do it but am out of time at the moment. Just make sure the heading stands apart from the WS Vigil thread, which is meant for Haleigh alone. Thanks! :grouphug:

 

[lonetraveler]

I guess I am confused - I would think it is a good thing that the family is asking for FBI involvement as PCSO seems to have gotten nowhere - why are people upset about this is it because Marie and TN seem to be on the same page and want answers and Haleigh found? Is it because peoples desire for RC and TN to be guilty and TN wanting FBI involved doesnt fit that theory? Could it be that the two families have decided enough is enough and are pulling together. I can't find nothing negative about a request from the family to pull in the FBI

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=149409&catid=3

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- The grandmothers of Haleigh Cummings said they want the FBI to take complete control of the investigation.

Haleigh was 5 when she vanished Feb. 10 from her father's mobile home, just outside the community of Satsuma.

Misty Croslin, Haleigh's father's ex-wife, was babysitting Haleigh that night when she said she awoke about 3 a.m. and noticed the kitchen light on. The back door was propped open with a brick and Haleigh was missing.

Haleigh's grandmothers Teresa Neves and Marie Griffis said 10-months is too long to go without answers about Haleigh's disappearance.

Well, do I feel dumb. I thought the FBI had already been available to help in the investigation, SBI too. I'm surprised if they have not been involved. I do think that Putnam Co. LE have had their chance and so far, nada. I think other law enforcement agencies should step in, SBI, FBI, either one. Maybe that way if corruption is involved locally, then maybe that will come to light too.

 

[lonetraveler]

The problem is, if TN and MG have got themselves involved with this TH guy it will not turn out good. This guy sees corruption everywhere he turns. For Gods sake........he thinks someone stole his fingerprints!!!!!!!!!! Do any of you really think that anyone in the FBI or anywhere else for that matter is going to pay attention to him? All this is going to do is contribute to the circus that is surrounding this case already. How many times does this guy claim to have died already? Yeah........Haleigh needs this. GMAB.

I agree about the circus bit. There are already three rings in this circus (The Cummings ring, the Croslins ring and the Sheffeld ring). I thought the FBI was already involved, anyway..............will this every end?

 

[lonetraveler]

Well, not in my opinion, since FBI has been in charge since Day 1.
Per one of my LE friends, the investigation will continue until someone in Washington, D.C. tells them to stop the investigation.

See Dept. of Justice website re: their CART [modeled on FL, btw.]

JMO & JWIH

BBM: Thanks LFlorida, I thought FBI was already involved too. At least now I know that I didn't just dream it.

 

[elle1919]

Well whatever it is...it seems when all grows quiet on the Haleigh home front and we don't hear much except a little blurb here or there, Teresa seems to find a way to call attention back to her missing granddaughter.

As she did when she enlisted TM and MN, a few months ago when things were going quiet. In my opinion a woman who was involved in the cover up of her precious and loved grand child would not call attention to the case just when everything grows quiet and people stop talking about her grandchild's whereabouts. Seems to me she would be pleased with the brick wall that appears when things grow quiet, instead she draws attention to herself and the case. JMO

 

[kiki the parrot]

TN is shrewd enough IMO to realize no news may not always be good news, for oneself or one's family. Or that the best defense is a good offense. Or innocence by association (a veritable bouquet of adages from which to pluck, lol). Or otoh... it could just be that when there are no sideshows, and things grow too terribly quiet, eyes... thoughts... questions... and conversations generally drift back in the direction of her son. JMO

arrot:

 

[Emeralgem]

Well whatever it is...it seems when all grows quiet on the Haleigh home front and we don't hear much except a little blurb here or there, Teresa seems to find a way to call attention back to her missing granddaughter.

As she did when she enlisted TM and MN, a few months ago when things were going quiet. In my opinion a woman who was involved in the cover up of her precious and loved grand child would not call attention to the case just when everything grows quiet and people stop talking about her grandchild's whereabouts. Seems to me she would be pleased with the brick wall that appears when things grow quiet, instead she draws attention to herself and the case. JMO

IIRC...Things werent exactly quiet when she enlisted TM and MN..
Ron C had been arrested for assaulting TC and there was the story of the headless rat...
I highly suspect TN was in somewhat of a tissy knowing that TC had information that could prove to be extremely detrimental to her son if ever revealed..Thus the reason for contacting MN and TM to throw both Misty and TC under the bus...
Also, she had been basically told to get out of PCSO and not to come back....JMO

 

[LFlorida]

Most of you have probably already seen or read or heard about Teresa's brother, dSquires, being arrested for a rather brutal assault on a man out at the clay pits near where they all live. [If not, I'll see if I can dig up the article from the PDN.]

I heard dSquire's victim is the same guy who called LE re: Ron riding a stolen 4-wheeler & threatening him.

Anybody know if it's true - is it the same guy? thx

 

[Kimster]

Most of you have probably already seen or read or heard about Teresa's brother, dSquires, being arrested for a rather brutal assault on a man out at the clay pits near where they all live. [If not, I'll see if I can dig up the article from the PDN.]

I heard dSquire's victim is the same guy who called LE re: Ron riding a stolen 4-wheeler & threatening him.

Anybody know if it's true - is it the same guy? thx

:waitasec: Didn't I read about this in the scanner thread? You might want to ask Raisincharlie or Grandmaj or SondraK...I think one of them might have heard it on the scanner, but I'm not entirely positive.

 

[newstome]

Most of you have probably already seen or read or heard about Teresa's brother, dSquires, being arrested for a rather brutal assault on a man out at the clay pits near where they all live. [If not, I'll see if I can dig up the article from the PDN.]

I heard dSquire's victim is the same guy who called LE re: Ron riding a stolen 4-wheeler & threatening him.

Anybody know if it's true - is it the same guy? thx

I have not read about this, could you dig up that article,please? Isn't that victim supposed to be Misty's new guy? Or was her new friend the one pretending to be Ron in the 4-wheeler? It's hard to keep their drama filled lives straight.

 

[Kimster]

I've rec'd a couple of alerts about Timothy Holmseth. I am not familiar with this person as I wasn't following Haleigh's case closely when the subject came up before. I did look into it with admin and it was confirmed that we do not want to get into discussions about him. The included link from Animal still stands:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh? #3

On the other hand, I didn't see detailed talk about him on this thread. I assume the video was made by him? I watched it and it seemed creepy, but I think the circumstances surrounding this case are creepy! Unless one of my mentors suggests otherwise, I'm leaving the video link up for now and asking that no one comments on it from this moment forward. If that happens, I'll delete all posts alluding to it. And if my decision to leave it up offends any of you, I'll take it down. So let me know!

And no more discussion about Tim H. ~ Thank you!

 

[LFlorida]

I have not read about this, could you dig up that article,please? Isn't that victim supposed to be Misty's new guy? Or was her new friend the one pretending to be Ron in the 4-wheeler? It's hard to keep their drama filled lives straight.

I was hoping y'all could draw me a map 'cuz I'm so confused.

I'll see if the article is still available in the free part of Palatka Daily News & BRB [or try to brb, anyways.]

Oh, but before I go - dSquire's assault & battery victim is not named in the article. There was another guy arrested with him on the charges -- don't remember 2nd perp's name off-hand. LSS-see PCSO jail log in the meantime.