Ron Cummings Arrested 2009.08.06 RE: Battery involving brother-in-law #2

[Whisperer]

I think she would of been taken against her will I am not saying they would physically harm her. It is really hard to explain because of what we are and are not allowed to discuss. I think there were calls all day long, I think tension was rising because they wanted Misty to go with them, she wasn't agreeing to that. I think it reached a boiling point and they came over even after they were told not to come over. IMO Haleigh going missing has created a lot of tension in the family and things had been rocky for a bit - the pill thing is just an example of that. I am not convinced they were involved in Haleighs disappearance but I do think some things are going on there.

That was a very confusing explanation...

That response doesn't answer TxLady and my question. Why did you said the Croslins were concerned she may talk. That remark lends me to believe that you believe MISTY is the key!

 

[Busylady]

IMO Misty does what Misty wants to do - I dont think RC is controlling her in anyway.

That's true, and I wonder if he's not allowing her to see her family, because he's afraid she will tell them how he treats her. Just a thought. It's not uncommon for a possessive, controlling man to forbid any contact with his wife's family or friends. IF this is what is going on, then I hope she wakes up soon and gets away from him before it's too late.
I lived with a controlling spouse myself, when I was not much older than her. He was extremely jealous of my family, and once he backhanded me so hard, in the car on the way home, my ear hit the window and made it black and blue..... just because I said something flattering about my brother.

 

[Whisperer]

Busy, do you believe she may talk? You stated that the Croslins may have wanted her to keep her from talking.

 

[Whisperer]

I will talk to myself here...

Busy stated that perhaps the Croslins want Misty to keep her from talking. It is useless for me to pursue the reasoning for the remark any longer and obvious that it is sensitive.

It was stated as an opinion.I am suggesting that the post was written with a question that leaves one wondering if Misty is the key...which was the essence of the last line of the post. Busy says:

[/quote] IMO RC should of just gotten Misty inside and called 911 when the Croslins showed up. I however do believe they showed up with the intent of taking Misty with them, I do not believe for a second they were there to rescue Misty at all. I also do not believe Tommy calmly approached RC, Tommys record speaks for itself there. IMO they are afraid Misty will talk when they are no longer around. JMO [/quote]


In that opinion, Misty knows something. That's how I read it. I agree with her..

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I think she would of been taken against her will I am not saying they would physically harm her. It is really hard to explain because of what we are and are not allowed to discuss. I think there were calls all day long, I think tension was rising because they wanted Misty to go with them, she wasn't agreeing to that. I think it reached a boiling point and they came over even after they were told not to come over. IMO Haleigh going missing has created a lot of tension in the family and things had been rocky for a bit - the pill thing is just an example of that. I am not convinced they were involved in Haleighs disappearance but I do think some things are going on there.

I don't think their intent would be to harm her either, but I can see them physically taking her against her will if Ronald had not put a stop to it. If we stop and ask why they would want to take her away so badly, I can come up with a few possibilities.

It is possible that Misty has recalled some things from that night or earlier that day which could have caused her to suspect her family. Maybe she did actually see something that night which could implicate a member of her family. (Is this perhaps why she thought it was her cousin at first?)

Any of the above would be good reason why Misty would not want to associate herself with them and has stayed away which could explain the comment from her brother.

I would like to see Tommy's record. Since he is a main player in this incident, I don't see why we can't post it if it shows past violence on his part. We already know Ronald's record. Fair is fair, imo. (Or do we already have it posted somewhere else?)

 

[Whisperer]

Beginning to get somewhere here. So are you also saying Misty may have info?

 

[Flossie JMO]

IMO Misty does what Misty wants to do - I dont think RC is controlling her in anyway.

I share that opinion Busy.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Yep these are very real possibilities, the last 30 days of behavior and movement of the Croslins had made me start questioning some things - but after this incident it really makes me question alot.

Whatever their plan was...it has now been postponed due to the fact they will have to appear in court in Putnum County. Has Tommy moved out of his mh in the park?

Tommy won't be allowed anywhere near Misty which is a good thing. Since Misty is usually with Ronald, it keeps him away from both of them.

Everything happens for a reason, Busy~

 

[Whisperer]

Will either of you go far enough to think Misty really is the key?

I have to ask for this reason.... We can speculate that if the Croslins are afraid Misty may talk (because they're involved,) then what is Ron's motive to secrete Misty?

 

[Whisperer]

Let's try this...What exactly is Ron protecting Misty from?

 

[fortytwo]

Will either of you go far enough to think Misty really is the key?

I have to ask for this reason.... We can speculate that if the Croslins are afraid Misty may talk (because they're involved,) then what is Ron's motive to secrete Misty?

(bold above by me)

Well, he doesn't appear to be hiding her, since everyone seems know exactly where she is, so that only leaves the the more common, primary definition.

Merriam-Webster

• Main Entry: 1se·crete

: to form and give off (a secretion)

That's one thing I hope Ron doesn't share with the public.

:crazy:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Originally Posted by Busylady
IMO Misty does what Misty wants to do - I dont think RC is controlling her in anyway.

I believe that to be the case. I think she proved a long time ago that no one controls her.

 

[fortytwo]

Let's try this...What exactly is Ron protecting Misty from?

Her brother. Then she got a restraining order.

Remember?

 

[Whisperer]

I still have a fairly good memory....forty-two.

appreciate your effort to explain but I am aware that Misty filed a RO that was not the point.

We were discussing a theory on the Croslins having kge of the crime, possibly and they don't want Misty to talk so they wanted to take her with them to make sure she doesn't blab......That was presented by SS and Busy agreed it might be a motive or vice-versa.

This brother lived around the corner from them. Misty is very close to him and babysat the kids. This is the same brother who owned the van that Misty drove. What is the fuss about with him, why the fight? You must admit something is VERY wrong here.

My question is if M has kge then why would RC want to protect her?

 

[Whisperer]

1. Misty called her family for help
2. Misty called her family because she wanted "out"
3. Misty never called and they all got together to go get her
4. Family was trying to kidnap her

After you pick one of these, you must decide what is happening to place a call and ask for help or for the taking of Misty against her will

 

[kiki the parrot]

1 and/or 2 (believe she initiated a call, don't know nature of distress, don't believe were attempting to forcibly take her).

I may be reading this wrong but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say given how little contact MC even has w her family anymore, it appears to be RC who's more worried about MC being beyond his influence.

ETA Maybe before her family could arrive, RC gave MC an ultimatum and she reconsidered? :waitasec:

arrot:

 

[Whisperer]

Have to agree with you KiKi..Stands to reason that Misty must be getting cabin fever by now. She has basically lost freedom when she left Green Lane.

There could be so many reasons for the fight that it is not possible to figure that out.

Once again, though, Misty is in the middle of a mess.

 

[Whisperer]

At the very beginning of the case, I started out thinking Misty is involved somehow.....after six months that is the only thing that has remained constant with me. No matter how I try to rule her out, it keeps coming back to her.

And now we have the arrest......and it all comes back to her...smack in the middle.

 

[kiki the parrot]

Not hard to imagine at that age lacking courage to leave a marriage that you've pinned all your hopes and staked your future on and if she did consider it and made the call/s, an ultimatum in return does not seem farfetched or out of character.

arrot:

 

[Whisperer]

not outta character at all, Kiki.

She wont last long w/o her family nearby.....she is used to freedom. As long as she has money she will be okay. She can comfort herself with it. It gives her a feeling of having some power, I'm sure.

but when that goes, she goes with it..