Ron Cummings Arrested 2009.08.06 RE: Battery involving brother-in-law #2

[kiki the parrot]

At the very beginning of the case, I started out thinking Misty is involved somehow.....after six months that is the only thing that has remained constant with me. No matter how I try to rule her out, it keeps coming back to her.

And now we have the arrest......and it all comes back to her...smack in the middle.

It just seems if it were an "ordinary" argument, or on account of his temperament in general that she had considered fleeing, why not just let her leave, right, rather than "catch a case?" I dunno...

arrot:

 

[kiki the parrot]

In any event, I believe she had genuinely decided at one point that she needed her family and put in an urgent call to come get her and in the interval before they arrived, something transpired to make her change her mind. What that was is, well, anybody's guess. Guess I'll sleep on it... :crazy:
:seeya:

arrot:

 

[Whisperer]

I agree with you..sleep well. I think I will do the same...nite!

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

I still have a fairly good memory....forty-two.

appreciate your effort to explain but I am aware that Misty filed a RO that was not the point.

We were discussing a theory on the Croslins having kge of the crime, possibly and they don't want Misty to talk so they wanted to take her with them to make sure she doesn't blab......That was presented by SS and Busy agreed it might be a motive or vice-versa.

This brother lived around the corner from them. Misty is very close to him and babysat the kids. This is the same brother who owned the van that Misty drove. What is the fuss about with him, why the fight? You must admit something is VERY wrong here.

My question is if M has kge then why would RC want to protect her?

BBM

He wouldn't. But if she had knowledge about his involvement, he'd sure want her at home being watched by either himself or his grandmother - 24/7. I agree that someone wants to be sure Misty doesn't blab - but that someone is the person who resorted to violence to ensure she stays away from her family. Someone is going to break and talk - soon.

The paragraph above is MOO. The last sentence of it is also my fervent hope.

 

[Hollys G-mom]

Since when do people call 911 when they want to leave because they are tired of living with their spouse?

BBM People who have violent spouses or spouses with violent pasts call LE when they want to leave because they know thier abusive spouse will try to stop them by any means necessary. Why didn't the Croslin family call LE? I think it's because they felt that thier daughter had enough media exposure and why not just try to talk her and RC into letting her go with them for a few days. Keep thing semi-cicvil. If you call LE right off the bat, then family relations are even more strained then before. If Misty was able to go with them that evening, they were probably aware that they would make-up within days. If LE involved that reunion could be curtailed.

Why didn't MC & RC call LE? Due to illegal activity, IMO. Drugs/abuse/Haleigh issues/ ect.

Why would Gma go to bed if M & R were fighting? In families where abuse occurs many times it is a generational thing. Often times female family members will not only cover up for an abusive son/relative they will also turn a blind eye, figuring "they will work it all out" or "It's thier relationship". It may not be uncommon for verbal altercations and/or physical altercations within the C family. Rather, it could be such a common occurance that she "thought nothing of it".
JMO....

 

[Emeralgem]

I still have a fairly good memory....forty-two.

appreciate your effort to explain but I am aware that Misty filed a RO that was not the point.

We were discussing a theory on the Croslins having kge of the crime, possibly and they don't want Misty to talk so they wanted to take her with them to make sure she doesn't blab......That was presented by SS and Busy agreed it might be a motive or vice-versa.

This brother lived around the corner from them. Misty is very close to him and babysat the kids. This is the same brother who owned the van that Misty drove. What is the fuss about with him, why the fight? You must admit something is VERY wrong here.

My question is if M has kge then why would RC want to protect her?

IMHO.. The Croslins know that Misty is covering for Ron and most probably know what happened to Haleigh and that Ron is the one responsible. They want her out of there, and it isn't because they want to make sure she doesn't blab.
Seems Ron C is the one who doesn't want her talking to her family, or her family anywhere near her because he is afraid Misty is going to blab what she knows about him being the one who is responsible.. This scenario has nothing to do with Ron C trying to protect Misty. Ron C is trying to protect himself.
He knows if Misty goes with her family they could possibly convince her to tell what she does know.I'm thinking that is exactly what her family wants her to do. I'm also thinking they haven't come forward to say anything yet due to the fact Misty is STILL with him, and they know she is in danger. Too bad Misty doesn't realize this fact...JMO

 

[fortytwo]

I still have a fairly good memory....forty-two.

appreciate your effort to explain but I am aware that Misty filed a RO that was not the point.

We were discussing a theory on the Croslins having kge of the crime, possibly and they don't want Misty to talk so they wanted to take her with them to make sure she doesn't blab......That was presented by SS and Busy agreed it might be a motive or vice-versa.

Well, yes. We were. You can understand my earlier confusion when you asked...

Let's try this...What exactly is Ron protecting Misty from?

This brother lived around the corner from them. Misty is very close to him and babysat the kids. This is the same brother who owned the van that Misty drove. What is the fuss about with him, why the fight? You must admit something is VERY wrong here.

I suppose. Is it that members of the same family live in the same community that you find so suspicious? Or that they might loan a vehicle to each other? The babysitting, I concede , looks very bad.

I share Busy and SS's interest in the cause of this latest blow-up along with you. I wonder as well if there might be undercurrents of more than family melodrama, as Busy suggests, but I don't struggle to find a way to tie everything back to Evil Ron.

My question is if M has kge then why would RC want to protect her?

Okay. A new question about Evil Ron.

I'm still considering the Croslin family involvement question. After that I'll move to what Misty may or may not know concerning them. Following that will be the time to begin to question Evil Ron's motives for protecting his wife.

 

[Peliman]

Seems like there was more than one news crew taking video the day RC was released. Who says the press dosen't ask the tough questions.


[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNTRuvAwL_I"]YouTube - Wife Misty Bonds Cummings Out Of Jail[/nomedia]

 

[TxLady2]

IMO Misty does what Misty wants to do - I dont think RC is controlling her in anyway.

And how did we arrive at that conclusion? No one has seen her out and about in months. Sounds to me like someone has inside information about where she's been and what she's doing. I would really like to know where this is coming from.

 

[TxLady2]

I don't think their intent would be to harm her either, but I can see them physically taking her against her will if Ronald had not put a stop to it. If we stop and ask why they would want to take her away so badly, I can come up with a few possibilities.

It is possible that Misty has recalled some things from that night or earlier that day which could have caused her to suspect her family. Maybe she did actually see something that night which could implicate a member of her family. (Is this perhaps why she thought it was her cousin at first?)

Any of the above would be good reason why Misty would not want to associate herself with them and has stayed away which could explain the comment from her brother.

I would like to see Tommy's record. Since he is a main player in this incident, I don't see why we can't post it if it shows past violence on his part. We already know Ronald's record. Fair is fair, imo. (Or do we already have it posted somewhere else?)

You're right, fair is fair. We should be allowed to see his record, especially if he is a suspect, even if it's only in some posters' minds.

I am just baffled how anyone with any degree of common sense can arrive at the conclusion that Misty's family would all of a sudden decide to kidnap her and hold her hostage, if they were involved at all in Haleigh's disappearance. On the premise that she might talk, no less. It's been 6 months, don't you think they would have been a little worried before now?
But IF there is a slight possibility that she might remember something, then I would hope that Ronald has enough decency to escort her down to the SO and give her the chance to tell them what she knows. Otherwise... well, it makes it look even more suspicious on his part, IMO.

 

[Patty G]

Since when do people call 911 when they want to leave because they are tired of living with their spouse?

People do call 911 when they are trying to get out of the house and are not allowed to leave.

 

[Patty G]

And how did we arrive at that conclusion? No one has seen her out and about in months. Sounds to me like someone has inside information about where she's been and what she's doing. I would really like to know where this is coming from.

It is an "IMO" statement.

 

[gypsyblue]

IMO RC should of just gotten Misty inside and called 911 when the Croslins showed up. I however do believe they showed up with the intent of taking Misty with them, I do not believe for a second they were there to rescue Misty at all. I also do not believe Tommy calmly approached RC, Tommys record speaks for itself there. IMO they are afraid Misty will talk when they are no longer around. JMO

~BBM~
so now records mean something....hmmmmm you mean he doesnt get the same sympathy as ron that he has straightened his life out? His charges werent a set up too? jmo

 

[TxLady2]

1 and/or 2 (believe she initiated a call, don't know nature of distress, don't believe were attempting to forcibly take her).

I may be reading this wrong but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say given how little contact MC even has w her family anymore, it appears to be RC who's more worried about MC being beyond his influence.

ETA Maybe before her family could arrive, RC gave MC an ultimatum and she reconsidered? :waitasec:

arrot:

I agree, Kiki. It's pretty clear to me what happened. We can sit around and argue this until the cows come home, but I don't think this had one thing to do with Haleigh being missing, other than Ron apparently doesn't want Misty to have anything to do with her family for some reason. What that reason is, is anybody's guess, but somehow I just can't buy into the premise that they are afraid she'll talk. After this long a time, why would they suddenly start getting scared?

 

[Busylady]

Ya know gypsyblue I am not doing this, you are taking it entirely out of context. Tommys are recent RCs are not for one thing. Tommys are violent offenses which correlate to the event that just happened, RC's are not. Records have always meant something. I also never said RCs charges were a setup. I really don't understand posters ask for info ask for opinions and when we post those it is met with these kind of responses and sarcasm. Seems like all that some want accomplished is discussion shut down.

~BBM~
so now records mean something....hmmmmm you mean he doesnt get the same sympathy as ron that he has straightened his life out? His charges werent a set up too? jmo

 

[TxLady2]

It is an "IMO" statement.

The statement, "Misty does what Misty wants to do" was NOT an IMO statement. How would a poster 5 states away know what Misty does?

 

[gypsyblue]

Ya know gypsyblue I am not doing this, you are taking it entirely out of context. Tommys are recent RCs are not for one thing. Tommys are violent offenses which correlate to the event that just happened, RC's are not. Records have always meant something. I also never said RCs charges were a setup. I really don't understand posters ask for info ask for opinions and when we post those it is met with these kind of responses and sarcasm. Seems like all that some want accomplished is discussion shut down.

No I actually like to see what you see, you know me....I am curious as to why the family wanted to go there if they were not called for help and again no answer.....wait, I do recall you saying you cant discuss why....why not? do you hold secret info? I hope you contact LE with that. When I have opinions, I back them up for why I feel that way, just asking the same so I can see what you see and to possibly disprove my own theories..... Still trying to fathom what the family, who once was filled with joy over the marriage, had to possibly gain or lose by trying to kidnap their daughter from the one they once adored......tyia....still......jmo

 

[Busylady]

No I don't have any secret info, you know the rules we are not allowed to discuss specifics of things that can not be backed up with documentation. We have been told we cannot discuss the specifics of Tommys records. I have shared my opinion on why I feel the way I do and backed that up without giving specifics yet people keep coming after me for those specifics knowing full well I can't. I don't make the rules, I just try to follow them.

Even my IMO statements are challenged and asked how I know that do I have a link that can back that up etc. I guess for some IMO requires a link and for others it is just that an opinion.

No I actually like to see what you see, you know me....I am curious as to why the family wanted to go there if they were not called for help and again no answer.....wait, I do recall you saying you cant discuss why....why not? do you hold secret info? I hope you contact LE with that. When I have opinions, I back them up for why I feel that way, just asking the same so I can see what you see and to possibly disprove my own theories..... Still trying to fathom what the family, who once was filled with joy over the marriage, had to possibly gain or lose by trying to kidnap their daughter from the one they once adored......tyia....still......jmo

 

[Busylady]

It was an IMO statement and clearly posted as such. How does anyone know that RC is abusing Misty which is posted on a daily basis over and over, they don't it is an opinion.

The statement, "Misty does what Misty wants to do" was NOT an IMO statement. How would a poster 5 states away know what Misty does?

 

[Flossie JMO]

The statement, "Misty does what Misty wants to do" was NOT an IMO statement. How would a poster 5 states away know what Misty does?

Are we reading the same post? I also don't understand the 5 states away part, there is no info on Busylady's profile where she lives.

IMO Misty does what Misty wants to do - I dont think RC is controlling her in anyway.