Ron Cummings Arrested 2009.08.06 RE: Battery involving brother-in-law #2

[gypsyblue]

No I don't have any secret info, you know the rules we are not allowed to discuss specifics of things that can not be backed up with documentation. We have been told we cannot discuss the specifics of Tommys records. I have shared my opinion on why I feel the way I do and backed that up without giving specifics yet people keep coming after me for those specifics knowing full well I can't. I don't make the rules, I just try to follow them.

Even my IMO statements are challenged and asked how I know that do I have a link that can back that up etc. I guess for some IMO requires a link and for others it is just that an opinion.

I never asked you for a link, busy, just an opinion in its entirety...

 

[RJA00]

People do call 911 when they are trying to get out of the house and are not allowed to leave.

jmo

but, ron was in jail for over 12 hrs I believe
IF misty wanted to leave she had her chance
so, i don't think misty wanted to leave jmo

 

[Busylady]

I have tried to give that, they are all suddenly skipping town, JO, the van, the pill situation, records indicate Tommy has short fuse, the statement they were trying to get Misty into the van, they were asked to not come over they did anyway, LE found nothing to indicate there was any problems between Misty and RC that evening, Hank SR afraid for Misty to be angry with him, the history of Misty and her parents lack of being parents to her now all the sudden they deeply care and are worried, the drugs, it has my hinky meter going nuts. Something is not right with all this when you add it all up IMO.

I never asked you for a link, busy, just an opinion in its entirety...

 

[kamky]

This reminds me of a member of my own family who was very manipulative. She would call others and describe a situation so that others would be very sympathetic to her and the other family members would look bad. She always managed to get her way by guilt. This caused enormous family turmoil. Eventually, it caught up with her because she cried wolf too many times. It is a form of abuse that is very sneaky.
IMO, Misty always seems to get what she wants and come out on top. I don't think she is abused at all. I think she is running the show.

 

[CeeKer]

No I don't have any secret info, you know the rules we are not allowed to discuss specifics of things that can not be backed up with documentation. We have been told we cannot discuss the specifics of Tommys records. I have shared my opinion on why I feel the way I do and backed that up without giving specifics yet people keep coming after me for those specifics knowing full well I can't. I don't make the rules, I just try to follow them.

Even my IMO statements are challenged and asked how I know that do I have a link that can back that up etc. I guess for some IMO requires a link and for others it is just that an opinion.

Busy I find your posts with links and facts to be extremely helpful, accurate and well documented. I find your posts containing your opinion very insightful, since your opinions IMO are based on logical, unemotional, well thought out possibilities from the many details you have documented in the various cases you've been involved in. Thank you.

 

[kamky]

I have tried to give that, they are all suddenly skipping town, JO, the van, the pill situation, records indicate Tommy has short fuse, the statement they were trying to get Misty into the van, they were asked to not come over they did anyway, LE found nothing to indicate there was any problems between Misty and RC that evening, Hank SR afraid for Misty to be angry with him, the history of Misty and her parents lack of being parents to her now all the sudden they deeply care and are worried, the drugs, it has my hinky meter going nuts. Something is not right with all this when you add it all up IMO.

I have to agree with you on this one, Busylady. This family has previously been well under the radar but I believe they warrant a lot more attention. IMO, there is a great deal of dysfunctionality here. I think Misty has suspicions of some of her family and has shared this concern with Ron and his family. This would go a long way towards explaining their marriage. Misty's family members would be well aware of the details of Ron & Misty's situation at the time of Haleigh's disppearance. Some of Misty's family were at the MH on that date. This recent disturbance is evidence to me that they have a desire to stay close to Misty, particularly Hank Sr & Jr.

Perhaps the disturbance and arrest will end up being a step towards someone sharing more with LE and bring a break in this case. I certainly hope so!

 

[gypsyblue]

I have tried to give that, they are all suddenly skipping town, JO, the van, the pill situation, records indicate Tommy has short fuse, the statement they were trying to get Misty into the van, they were asked to not come over they did anyway, LE found nothing to indicate there was any problems between Misty and RC that evening, Hank SR afraid for Misty to be angry with him, the history of Misty and her parents lack of being parents to her now all the sudden they deeply care and are worried, the drugs, it has my hinky meter going nuts. Something is not right with all this when you add it all up IMO.

thank you for your response busy. While I agree that the croslin brothers should have always been looked into, I still believe Misty called them for help and got over it later....Other than me being open to them possibly playing a role in Haleighs disappearance, thats just it, they could have played a part. I have a hard time thinking it was without the knowledge of Misty and Ron. I dont see Ron marrying Misty in approval of her covering her brothers or family if they were in this alone. I can however see him marrying her to keep the whole family quiet, and maybe the tension is building between them all.... I do believe this is the beginning of something that will help shed some light on the truth of what happened to Haleigh.......jmooc

 

[atherella]

~BBM~
so now records mean something....hmmmmm you mean he doesnt get the same sympathy as ron that he has straightened his life out? His charges werent a set up too? jmo

I haven't looked at the records of Tommy.

I read on the post below that his charges are violent and recent. Was he convicted of his charges?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I haven't looked at the records of Tommy.

I read on the post below that his charges are violent and recent. Was he convicted of his charges?

I would love to know the answer to that, too. This thread is about a fight in which he was directly involved in and possibly responsible for starting, IMO. I want to know if this is a pattern for him. While charges haven't been brought up against him yet...Ronald filed those reports with LE so he has been accused of wrongdoing here.

I tried pulling him up at myfloridaclerks and only found an old record on him. Is there another place for me to look?

 

[Indiana at Heart]

I would love to know the answer to that, too. This thread is about a fight in which he was directly involved in and possibly responsible for starting, IMO. I want to know if this is a pattern for him. While charges haven't been brought up against him yet...Ronald filed those reports with LE so he has been accused of wrongdoing here.

I tried pulling him up at myfloridaclerks and only found an old record on him. Is there another place for me to look?

try http://www.flaglerclerk.com/publicsearch.htm

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks, Indiana~

It sure is nice to finally know the answers to my questions about her brother.

 

[CrankyPants]

IMHO.. The Croslins know that Misty is covering for Ron and most probably know what happened to Haleigh and that Ron is the one responsible. They want her out of there, and it isn't because they want to make sure she doesn't blab.
Seems Ron C is the one who doesn't want her talking to her family, or her family anywhere near her because he is afraid Misty is going to blab what she knows about him being the one who is responsible.. This scenario has nothing to do with Ron C trying to protect Misty. Ron C is trying to protect himself.
He knows if Misty goes with her family they could possibly convince her to tell what she does know.I'm thinking that is exactly what her family wants her to do. I'm also thinking they haven't come forward to say anything yet due to the fact Misty is STILL with him, and they know she is in danger. Too bad Misty doesn't realize this fact...JMO

If the Croslins know what happened to Haleigh and that Ron is responsible, all they have to do is tell LE. LE will then arrest Ron and Misty will be free to go wherever, whenever.

I don't know why the Croslins were there, but knowing how much care/protection/involvement they had with their sister/daughter before Haleigh went missing sort of leads me to believe they have values that are "different" than most of us here would consider healthy.

 

[Peliman]

I have tried to give that, they are all suddenly skipping town, JO, the van, the pill situation, records indicate Tommy has short fuse, the statement they were trying to get Misty into the van, they were asked to not come over they did anyway, LE found nothing to indicate there was any problems between Misty and RC that evening, Hank SR afraid for Misty to be angry with him, the history of Misty and her parents lack of being parents to her now all the sudden they deeply care and are worried, the drugs, it has my hinky meter going nuts. Something is not right with all this when you add it all up IMO.

Looking up Tommys records all I've found is
2009-02-27 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE

Records indicate plural, may I ask which records your referring as short fuse please.

 

[raeann]

Looking up Tommys records all I've found is
2009-02-27 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE

Records indicate plural, may I ask which records your referring as short fuse please.

Hmmmm....a barking dog....now that is one scary dude!

 

[raeann]

If the Croslins know what happened to Haleigh and that Ron is responsible, all they have to do is tell LE. LE will then arrest Ron and Misty will be free to go wherever, whenever.

I don't know why the Croslins were there, but knowing how much care/protection/involvement they had with their sister/daughter before Haleigh went missing sort of leads me to believe they have values that are "different" than most of us here would consider healthy.

BBM
Not being snarky here at all, but posters keep referring to this family background of Misty's that they "KNOW" happened. Could someone post for me the link from CPS, or the Juvenile court, or wherever it is that this factual information is posted? I have looked through the documents thread and several others trying to find it, but have not been able to do so.

 

[debs]

How very logical! Why go try to beat the tar out of him and take Misty instead of going to LE to have him arrested on major charges for Haleigh?

And if they did know something...why wouldn't they tell LE when filing these charges in the heat of the moment?! Why stop at Burglary and A & B when they could have gone for broke and gotten rid of Ronald for good?

Ronald was the physical aggressor. He put his hands on Hank2 first. He continued to fight Hank2 after Hank retreated into his vehicle (a statement confirmed by everyone who witnessed it, including his own grandmother and wife) and so I don't see how Hank tried to beat the tar out of anyone. He answered a call, drove over with two other people (and right about now, I think that was the smartest thing this kid has ever done).

I don't know what Hank2 knows. I don't believe in the theory that the Croslin's have inside information that they could bust the Haleigh case wide open with, nor do I believe that they operated under anything other than a desire (belated, cuz they were the ones that allowed the marriage, not to mention the fact that she was on the street from about 14 on) to help her out because she sent up the SOS. Whether she later rescinded the SOS call and told them not to come doesn't remove the anxiety that was apparent in their version of the story that they felt compelled enough to head over there at such a late hour.

I just don't see how it keeps getting twisted that they did anything other than answer a call of distress and were met by an enraged Ronald.

BUT!! If anyone subscribes to the version being suggested in SS's version, then there are plenty of questions that arise:
1. Does Misty know something about her family regarding Haleigh, and if so, why would they have ever allowed the marriage to happen (her parents had to sign her over).
2. If Misty only recently discovered information regarding her family, why hasn't she gotten her happy a$$ down to LE and revealed it all?
3. If Misty told Ronald anything regarding her family that made him feel he needed to defend his wife against their coming to the house, why hasn't HE told LE all that he knows?
4. If the Croslin's suspect either Ronald or Misty knows something, why haven't THEY gotten their happy a$$es in to LE and told all they know?

 

[Peliman]

Peliman, we aren't allowed to post any of his records here. I do recommend you keep looking tho.

Well thanks for the tip, I'm not the one making the allegation and certainly it's a big country so if someone wants to point the way, be my guest or otherwise it's unfounded.

 

[scandi]

Hi, This incident just reiterates to me that Haleigh and JR have a total 'hot head' for a father. I think LE did the right thing in arresting him for entering the car to pummel on Hank and hope this time the charges stick. IMO There IS a law!

 

[texasmommy39]

IMO From my third party perspective, from the begining Misty's parents have been almost nonprotective and questionable in their decisions inregards to Misty. IMO This incident is in no relation to Haleighs abduction other than these families have been on an emotional roller coaster since 2/10 and the Croslin's family disfunction is the true culprit. To bad Ron chose to step out GGS door that night to give Hank Jr. what he came over to get. Under the circumstances we will not be privey to the truth at this time and should continue to look for Haleigh, RIGHT?

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Misty's juvenile records are sealed and have nothing to do with Ron's arrest.

Misty's father was aware of Ron's age even after Ron had at first lied about it, and it was okay with her dad for Misty to continue her relationship with Ron....again, nothing to do with Ron's arrest.

Misty's mother thought their relationship was okay also, she went with Misty to get her Marriage License.......again, nothing to do with Ron's arrest.

None of the above has anything to do with this thread Topic, or does the past record of Misty's brother. When the State Attorney reviews this case he will review the brother's record to see if it could be a contributing factor to the altercation, not us.

Whatever the motivation for the Croslins to come calling is pure speculation at this point as we have no facts other than the "he said, she said" scenario.