Ron's Incident With The Gun Spark Investigation was opened by DCF.

[Muffet]

His own attorney justified it as an emotional event "if it happened." Says to me that it happened.

Yep, and I don't believe for a moment that any attorney would answer with an excuse for a client instead of a denial, if he believed his client was innocent of the accusation. They are well aware of what excuses imply.

 

[Muffet]

And DCF has it in their hands because someone other than Tim Miller cared enough to pick up the phone.

Blaise

Great posts, Blaise.

I'd only add that we don't know that Tim didn't report it right off. All we know is that MN said Tim reported it to LE, but at the time, Misty's polys, etc. were taking all the focus. Because the way MN worded it did not specify exactly when Tim reported it, and LE didn't inform DCF, some assume he waited to tell LE.

With regard to making judgments based on assumptions, it also seems wrong for so many to continue saying that Tim interfered with the investigation, when we have no evidence that LE didn't welcome his efforts. IMO, we should let LE be the ones to determine whether or not Tim's involvement was good or bad.

Assuming the worst of Tim Miller, and posting those assumptions as facts, seems unfair to me, but that's JMO.

 

[Muffet]

- snip- Most people do not even have LE at their disposal as Tim, as according to him he talked thereafter with them concerning Misty and all her "lies". As he walked in the shoes of a "Liar" himself. Righteous judgement? I'm only using the words of Tim, as he has called Misty a "Liar" so I deemed it appropriate to use his own words rightfully in describing his deceptive ways.

So far it's not proven, only one person who saw it makes a claim, Tim Miller, who didn't react in any such way representative of having just witnessed such an event appropriate to have intervened with a call to LE and DCF. Being that he's working so closely with LE on the case, surely their number is on his speed dial. Weeks after this allegation, he makes mention of it when he's involved in yet another questionable incident with co-conspirators in which the law was involved. And what was he caught doing in this conspiracy, "Lying" to an underaged, helpless, homeless female without parental support and guidance. Seems like to me he got his digs in good towards Misty and Ron this past week.

DCF and LE has it in their hands now, lets see what happens. :woohoo:

My bold...

LE has also called Misty a liar. She told us they called her a liar to her face, and their public statements have been consistent in that regard. They have pulled no punches in letting the world know they think her story is a "farce."

LE also lies to people every day, in order to get the truth from reluctant parties. It's unfortunate, but necessary, if you want to find out the truth, and I see no reason to be outraged or deride LE or TM as "liars," unless someone doesn't think finding the truth is priority #1.

LE knows so much more than we do about what the evidence and players have said, I can't bring myself in my ignorance to accuse them of being wrong.

JMO :twocents:

 

[kiki the parrot]

I was talking specifically about *THIS CASE*.

*We* know this? How do we know this? And are we using the all-inclusive 'we' or the Royal We? All I've heard is that Ronald's Attorney says there was no assault rifle. I don't know about you, but I place no credibility in his defense attorney. Call it the Jose Syndrome. If there's been other substantive evidence that there was no assault rifle, point it out to me. I miss much. And, would it make a heck of a lot of difference if he used a shot gun instead of an assault riffle?.

What inconsistencies as noted by anyone who has no specific agenda have we found out? I'm being sincere?

I can't tell you how much I disagree with that last paragraph. It shrieks of 'I ain't getting involved. Don't wanna make waves. None of my busines.' If more outsiders interjected themselves with DCF when they had any doubt that a child was being abused, either physically or emotionally, how many children might manage to see their 6th birthday...

(bbm) Can't tell you how much I AGREE w your last paragraph. And furthermore I'm baffled as to exactly why anyone would object so strenuously to a thorough investigation into any child reported to be at any risk of harm--much less the sibling of a child who already disappeared under suspicious circumstances--whose case remains unsolved--and who was still living at the time under the same roof as not only the one who made the purported threats but also the main person of interest in their sibling's disappearance... :waitasec: JMO

arrot:

 

[Whisperer]

Guns, guns and more guns. Seems like that is the world of Rom Cummings. DCF has been to RC's places before. He has parenting classes x2 that we know of. Sounds real good, but the classes are a few hours and taken on line. This is Government at its finest.

I expect nothing but sometimes public outcry can make them move. It would take a miracle of sorts for this child to be taken from RC and GGMA.

...It is time for a miracle..

 

[Whisperer]

So we hear more about guns with LE on Feb 10. They either removed or found a weapon/weapons. He bragged about his 9mm Baretta...a semi automatic. They aren't cheap.

We heard him speak of guns w/Cobra. We heard him speak of guns with T. Miller. a bigger better gun than his hand gun...very expensive. We heard Misty speak of guns on video concerning RC. She also described how she found a gun with RC being on the other end of the phone directing her. We have read Crystal's remarks about Ron and guns and his threats. We also read that LE knew he always has a gun and had to approach with caution during the last arrest. Yet, some don't think anything of any of this. Let's face it folks, RC is a danger to himself or others. He threatens and intimidates. We heard him ourselves but there are some that are still going that extra mile and giving this man another pass.

I suspect that this is his connection with his neighbor. RC likes his neighbor's toys.

...He is a man child who likes to play with guns....His immaturity is forever showing and there is a 4 yrl old living with him...dangerous behavior. MO.

 

[Hippy Chick]

Just IMO, but Ronald plays fast and loose with everything - his children and his guns. With his voice on the 911 tape threatening violence as he does proves to me that this man does not need any guns in the house with his son.

IMO, Ronald has an explosive temper. This incident proves that he is in a dangerous state of mind and both he and the incident should be thoroughly investigated and there should be consequences.

Just my opinion.

I don't think Ron has such an explosive temper, if he did he would have really hurt Misty and whoever else he would imagine being involved with Haleigh. I also think he would have blew up to the media @ some point. I really don't think he is explosive a little dramatic maybe....

 

[PorcineGranny]

I don't think Ron has such an explosive temper, if he did he would have really hurt Misty and whoever else he would imagine being involved with Haleigh. I also think he would have blew up to the media @ some point. I really don't think he is explosive a little dramatic maybe....

Ron has an explosive temper, LA Law was right on the mark. Hes immature and has no concept of concern except for himself. Hes wrapped up in not letting others know how he thinks if possible. I don't know how any other conclusion could be reached after his relationship with Crystal and and the Hank Jr. fiasco.'
Hes very scary to me.

 

[Whisperer]

He wouldn't hurt anyone who hurt Haleigh if he was involved....that's for sure.

 

[Hippy Chick]

Ron has an explosive temper, LA Law was right on the mark. Hes immature and has no concept of concern except for himself. Hes wrapped up in not letting others know how he thinks if possible. I don't know how any other conclusion could be reached after his relationship with Crystal and and the Hank Jr. fiasco.'
Hes very scary to me.

I just don't see the explosive temper....he has a temper yes but I may say bad things too if my child was missing, and yes, i might threaten to kill someone. Until I walk a mile in his shoes(God forbid) I don't really know what i may say or do.I don't think he had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearence and I feel sorry for him and Crystal and most of all for Haleigh I am off to bed and will say a prayer for her and both sides of her family

 

[PorcineGranny]

Hippy, thanks for the prayer for those families, its very kind of you. I want you to consider one thing...how many times have you chopped off the head of anything to make a point to someone else? If you go back to the beginning threads and read about his abuse of Crystal and how he has up to recently tried to make her life hell, I think you might come to different conclusions. But, if you don't , its ok, we shall just have different opinions cause I know how he is.

 

[curvecuti]

Hippy, thanks for the prayer for those families, its very kind of you. I want you to consider one thing...how many times have you chopped off the head of anything to make a point to someone else? If you go back to the beginning threads and read about his abuse of Crystal and how he has up to recently tried to make her life hell, I think you might come to different conclusions. But, if you don't , its ok, we shall just have different opinions cause I know how he is.

So, you know Ron personally?

And for the record, there is no proof he chopped the head off anything, if you have proof of this please provide it, thanks!

 

[PorcineGranny]

I don't know Ron personally. I do know his type. I base my observations on the fact I worked in criminal court for years and I saw "Ron" every day. That is my opinion. I am not clouded by some type of excuse making adoration. My hope is that I am wrong and Ron amazes everyone by doing the honorable and right things and searches for his daughter and holds her above himself.

If I have wrongly accused Ron of murder of the rat I will be the first to apologize. All of what I say is opinion based on my personal feelings and observations and experience.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I think anyone who doubts that Ronald has an explosive temper can hear it in the 911 tape. In the first moments of his daughter being reported missing, he displays over the top anger.

PorcineGranny, I worked in the system for years and can say that I see a very dangerous temper in Ronald, and a total disregard for the law. I read the unabridged version of his rap sheet and can see that he does have a total disregard for the law. He has been very lucky in the past. In fact; he has been more than lucky in that he hasn't wound up in prison or even dead at the hands of an addict. His getting away with so many charges has done him no favors. Instead, it has given him the sense of being invincible. No one is invincible and he has yet to learn that.

JMO, MOO

 

[Flossie JMO]

JMO - a 911 call from someone who's child is missing is in no way an indication of a temper of any sort imo.

 

[Malesherbes]

JMO - a 911 call from someone who's child is missing is in no way an indication of a temper of any sort imo.

It is when the dad is saying, F her date of birth, and stuff like, we got better people to talk to than these mother f'ers that aint coming, and he hung up on 911, so all that is an indication of ones temper-

But if we want to go to another example of his temper, we have his own Grandma who said she sent him back in the trailer, and then tore back out and started beating someone who was trying to leave in a car, so maybe if the 911 call isnt enough for everyone, or a few, that other example to some is the icing on the cake-

jmo

 

[chemcopout]

how do we know he chopped off a live rats head to stick in a mailbox? did someone do an autospy on the rat?
we don't know him personally to be judging. there may be many people "like ron" however they aren't him and everyone is different.
he seems to vent a lot and threaten however he hasnt killed anyone yet.
people only ever heard of him since haleigh went missing. and since then, there has been a lot of judgement. maybe his anger is a mask for the grief he is going through!

 

[sleepingheart]

how do we know he chopped off a live rats head to stick in a mailbox? did someone do an autospy on the rat?
we don't know him personally to be judging. there may be many people "like ron" however they aren't him and everyone is different.
he seems to vent a lot and threaten however he hasnt killed anyone yet.
people only ever heard of him since haleigh went missing. and since then, there has been a lot of judgement. maybe his anger is a mask for the grief he is going through!

JMO.....If you've seen one abuser, you've seen them all.

 

[Malesherbes]

I honestly dont care if the rat was dead or alive when the head was cut off, the fact that is was cutoff is enough for me- jmo

 

[azwriter]

how do we know he chopped off a live rats head to stick in a mailbox? did someone do an autospy on the rat?
we don't know him personally to be judging. there may be many people "like ron" however they aren't him and everyone is different.
he seems to vent a lot and threaten however he hasnt killed anyone yet.
people only ever heard of him since haleigh went missing. and since then, there has been a lot of judgement. maybe his anger is a mask for the grief he is going through!

Nothing for me to write in quoting this post. I think the bolded purple word says a lot.