Ron's possible plea deal?

[raisincharlie]

I am sure RC has tattled in the past but I must consider that someone may have retaliated against him for this. Not to go into too much detail and get off topic here, but RC's situation now is different than it was in the past. His child is missing and even though it is not likely this was the result of him having turned on the wrong person at some point, it remains a possibility, imo. Until Haleigh's disappearance is solved I am still holding onto all possible scenarios.

I agree, it is a possibility this could be retaliation, for many things, can't limit it to one in my thought processes. However, LE doesn't seem to think this is stranger related, there is a reason they believe that. There are several scenarios I can see that may be applicable to Haleigh being taken. And you are right, Ron's circumstances now are very different. But one thing is true, everyone now knows where his extended family lives and what they look like if he is willing to open that door.

Just my thought, if there is a deal going on with him, it is more related to Haleigh than drugs at this point I think. I don't see that the SA sees Ron as all that valuable in the drug life in Putnam County. His only real value is definitive answers regarding Haleigh in my opinion. LE already knows the drug issues and those involved - the UC can tell them where things were coming from, don't need Ron for that.

 

[Bobbisangel]

Mystic: what do you think of Tim Miller saying he doesn't believe Ron knows what happened to Haleigh?

ETA: Or anyone of course!

I think Tim knows what he is talking about. Just knowing how many people he has been around with missing children or loved ones I would imagine he can read a parent pretty well.

 

[atherella]

Is Ron getting sentenced on Thursday? Or is it to have another hearing?

Ron is not getting sentenced Thursday because he has not been found guilty of anything.

Thursday is Ron's Pre-Trial which was continued at his last hearing:

2010-03-31 26 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
2010-03-31 26 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2010-03-31 26 CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010

That doesn't mean he wouldn't have the option to take a plea deal (if there is one on the table). That can happen at any time (for any of them).

 

[Kimster]

Let's keep this thread focused on a possible plea deal for Ron. It is swaying this way and that. This post is landing randomly on the thread and is not about the post above it.

 

[rileysmom]

Ron is not getting sentenced Thursday because he has not been found guilty of anything.

Thursday is Ron's Pre-Trial which was continued at his last hearing:

2010-03-31 26 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
2010-03-31 26 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2010-03-31 26 CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010

That doesn't mean he wouldn't have the option to take a plea deal (if there is one on the table). That can happen at any time (for any of them).

Thank you, I was wondering about it.

 

[SoSueMe]

Yep, same sentence Hope got for slingin a couple of pills in the backseat of a set up drug sale. I still think she is responsible for her actions but boy that no contest plea with a minimum mandatory was stupid. But I was most looking at recent sentencing standards for similar or more serious charges. The court cannot hand down a sentence that is just totally out of whack with what others are receiving (ie Casey Anthony was not going to do seventy years for writing bad checks when others with her record would have gotten probation).

I expected the examples to be bad, but these were worse than I was expecting in all honesty. Although it makes me even more convinced Ron is not going to say he is guilty and do fifteen years. He will go to trial or hold out for a better deal.

I agree as to Hope's no contest plea. If anyone looked like the 5th wheel, it was certainly Hope. I was shocked at her plea and have to ask if the judge had a choice in his sentencing since there was a mandatory minimum?

I don't think Ron will go to trial. He will plead out, whether it's tomorrow or on down the road. According to Hope, during their ride to the courthouse, Ron was considering the offer of 25 years, so I think he might take the 15.

Afterall, Ron doesn't think anyone but God can judge him, I doubt he wants a jury up in his business.

OMO

 

[nomoresorrow]

Wonder if this has anything to do with Ron's "possible-pending" deal...

Putnam man charged with trafficking
Posted: May 12, 2010 - 11:05am
By Dana Treen

A Putnam County man has been charged with two counts of drug trafficking after 775 prescription pills and three handguns were found at his Satsuma residence.

Ronnie Lee Barber, 65, was also charged with possession of a firearm by a convicted felon and maintaining a drug dwelling. The pills and guns were found after a search warrant was served Tuesday at Barber's residence in the 100 block of Sweetgum Road, according to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-05-12/story/putnam-man-charged-trafficking

Maybe the timing is simply ironic (?), guess we'll know soon enough...

MOO ~

 

[Baxter]

Inder the drug trafficking statutes, the penalties for illegal drugs are not as harsh as the penalties for prescription medication. You need a much larger quantity of illegal drugs to be looking at the 15/25 year minimum mandatory. While a very small amount, a personal use amount of prescription drugs, will get you 15 to 25 years.

So you really cannot compare sentences involving illegal drugs with sentencing involving prescription drugs.

Exactly. It all depends on the weight of the pills.

. Is 4 grams or more, but less than 14 grams, such person shall be sentenced to a mandatory minimum term of imprisonment of 3 years, and the defendant shall be ordered to pay a fine of $50,000.

b. Is 14 grams or more, but less than 28 grams, such person shall be sentenced to a mandatory minimum term of imprisonment of 15 years, and the defendant shall be ordered to pay a fine of $100,000.

c. Is 28 grams or more, but less than 30 kilograms, such person shall be sentenced to a mandatory minimum term of imprisonment of 25 calendar years and pay a fine of $500,000.

http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/in.../SEC135.HTM&Title=->2006->Ch0893->Section 135

 

[Whisperer]

I am beginning to wonder if rc and the gang are turning people in like crazy. I just saw a name that I know from misty's mugging days. One of the girls' fiance was just picked up, but that is not all. Take a look at the newest arrest in Satsuma. We don't know him but he was dealing in oxycontin.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-05-12/story/putnam-man-charged-trafficking

They're dropping like flies in Putnam County..The jail must look like old home week there, they must be high-fiving their buddies after booking...

 

[raisincharlie]

I am beginning to wonder if rc and the gang are turning people in like crazy. I just saw a name that I know from misty's mugging days. One of the girls' fiance was just picked up, but that is not all. Take a look at the newest arrest in Satsuma. We don't know him but he was dealing in oxycontin.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-05-12/story/putnam-man-charged-trafficking

They're dropping like flies in Putnam County..The jail must look like old home week there, they must be high-fiving their buddies after booking...

Ron might want to rethink his presence in general population...then again, maybe someone will get the truth out of him.

 

[grandmaj]

I agree Ron is giving up the drug dealers. And probably trying to blame Misty for everything relating to the drugs. But then again we have that video with Ron putting a pill in his mouth. How does he explain that?

 

[debs]

I agree Ron is giving up the drug dealers. And probably trying to blame Misty for everything relating to the drugs. But then again we have that video with Ron putting a pill in his mouth. How does he explain that?

I believe his supporters describe it as "a toothpick."

 

[Zoe Bogart]

snipped for space
From the link below, this January, leader of a large drug trafficking gang, two year investigation, multiple felonies including trafficking, violent arrest that involved shooting the defendant (oh yeah, and a firearms aggravating factor to the trafficking charges), he got 10.33 years. That was the heaviest sentence of the 17 people that were charged. The original indictment docs are linked at the bottom.

http://www.usfra.org/group/prisonblock/forum/topics/member-of-opalocka-drug-gang

Jeffrey H. Sloman, United States Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, John V. Gillies, Special Agent in Charge, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Miami Field Office, Hugo Barrera, Special Agent in Charge, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Mark R. Trouville, Special Agent in Charge, Drug Enforcement Administration, Miami Field Division, James K. Loftus, Interim Director, Miami-Dade Police Department, and Rodney Ballentine, Chief, City of Opa-Locka Police Department, announced the sentencing of the final defendant in Operation Cold Turkey. On January 5, 2010, U.S. District Court Judge Donald M. Middlebrooks sentenced defendant Erick Hinds to 248 months in prison, following his October 2009 trial on gun and drug charges in connection with a drug trafficking gang that operated in the City of Opa-Locka. Hinds was arrested on December 17, 2008, after he violently resisted arrest, and was himself shot and wounded by Miami Dade Police Officers executing a search warrant.

This sentencing effectively concludes Operation Cold Turkey, a two-year investigation that resulted in charges against 17 defendants in connection with drug trafficking. The investigation and prosecution resulted in the seizure of approximately 40 firearms, including assault weapons and machine guns, and a ballistics vest. Others charged and convicted were:

According to statements made in court in the Hinds trial and in various guilty pleas, it is estimated that this gang trafficked in approximately 8,200 grams of marijuana, 560 grams of crack cocaine, 700 grams of powder cocaine, and 500 MDMA in just a one month period.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/fls/PressReleases/Attachments/081217-01.Indictment-B.pdf

This was in Florida, but it was also in FEDERAL court. Federal laws are different than state laws. The state of Florida has been cracking down on dope dealers, Federal laws are far behind them.

 

[Justin Tyme]

I agree Ron is giving up the drug dealers. And probably trying to blame Misty for everything relating to the drugs. But then again we have that video with Ron putting a pill in his mouth. How does he explain that?

Wasn't he counting and saying that they didn't get all the pills that they paid for? Makes you wonder how many he put in his mouth? Like I've said, was his pill count before or after he placed some in his mouth? :waitasec:

 

[Zoe Bogart]

Wasn't he counting and saying that they didn't get all the pills that they paid for? Makes you wonder how many he put in his mouth? Like I've said, was his pill count before or after he placed some in his mouth? :waitasec:

Misty did the same, claimed they were "cheated" out of a few pills. I didn't see her eating any though. Maybe she pocketed them?

About the guy with 775 pills and guns, they've probably been watching him because the article does stand he's a convicted felon.

Ronald doesn't deserve a plea deal. None of them do. If they won't say what happened to Haleigh and where she is, they can all rot behind bars. No Haleigh, no deal, is my motto. :furious:

 

[Zoe Bogart]

Oh, no! Look at this!

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...father-negotiating-15-year-sentence-drug-case

In exchange for testimony at possible trials of his former wife and her brother, Ronald Cummings is negotiating for a 15-year sentence on drug-trafficking charges, his attorney said this morning.

Folowing a a pretrial hearing in Putnam County where the father of missing Haleigh Cummings was given a July 19 trial date, his attorney said he and Cummings hope to have the deal within two weeks or possibly sooner.

Misty is going to be pizzed.

 

[Kimster]

This thread will be closing soon. Please continue discussions here: 2010.05.13 -Ronald & Hank Jr. court today: Ron negotiating for 15-yr sentence - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

<<<<snipped for purpose>>>>

Cummings' testimony would relate only to the drug-trafficking case, Shoemaker said, and would not involve his missing child, who authorities now presume is dead.

The lawyer added that investigators told Cummings some time ago that, because Misty Croslin was comfortable living with him, she was more likely to talk about what had happened to Haleigh if they were not together.

"When this first happened, law enforcement always said that Misty feels comfortable about you so she's not going to talk," Shoemaker said, described what Cummings had told him. "They would say, Well, if you weren't married to her, then she would talk.

"There has always been kind of a 'get her out of her element and she may talk more,'" the lawyer added. "I guess getting her in jail is a way of getting her out of her comfort zone."

But Shoemaker added that police were not urging Cummings to divorce Croslin. They did divorce just months after getting married.
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100513/ARTICLES/100519729?p=2&tc=pg

 

[MADJGNLAW]

Ronald Cummings Near Plea Deal, Aug. 20 hearing was scheduled to finalize that plea agreement.

Cummings Remains Held On Drug Trafficking Charges

UPDATED: 12:38 pm EDT July 19, 2010
"Snip" http://www.news4jax.com/news/24307123/detail.html

PALATKA, Fla. -- Ronald Cumming will be held in jail for another month as his attorney tries to finalize a plea agreement with prosecutors on drug trafficking charges.

Jury selection for Ronald Cummings' trial was set to begin today, the judge was told there was a tentative agreement that Ronald would agree to plead guilty to three of the five counts if the other two were dropped. A Aug. 20 hearing was scheduled to finalize that plea agreement.
If Ronald Cummings were to be convicted on all five charges, he could receive a minimum mandatory sentence of 25 yr.

Sykes said, the family wants the best deal for Ronald -- one that gets him home as soon as possible.

Asked if there's anything new with the Haleigh investigation, Sykes said if there is, no one's told the family.

"As far as we're concerned, Haleigh is alive, adding that until someone shows her proof otherwise, "we're looking for a live little girl." " Sykes said.

Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Case Status: TRIAL
Defense Atty: SHOEMAKER, TERRY J
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION


Defendant: CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES


05/13/2010 39 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL

05/13/2010 39 CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010

05/13/2010 40 ORDER SETTING TRIAL DATE 07/19/2010 AND LAST CHANCE

05/13/2010 40 PLEA DAY 07/09/2010

05/21/2010 41 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010) IN JAIL

05/21/2010 42 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010)

05/28/2010 43 LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES

06/15/2010 44 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST

06/28/2010 45 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE

07/01/2010 46 ORDER DENYING MOTION FOR CONTINUNANCE TRIAL DATE AND
07/01/2010 46 GRANTING AS TO LAST CHANCE PLEA DATE

"Snip" http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/ext_app_sec/public_menu.php

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php



542010CF000144XXAXMX 01/21/2010
Defendant: CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES


542010CF000145XXAXMX 01/21/2010
Defendant: CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES


542010CF000146XXAXMX 01/21/2010
Defendant: CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES


542010CF000253XXAXMX 02/03/2010
Defendant: CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES


542010CF000254XXAXMX 02/03/2010
Defendant: CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES

 

[Whisperer]

I heard there are some local media there already. If national are going, they should be there. It takes awhile to set up.