Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #11

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Wow! That was intense, watching the PC. I think Zelensky just burned the bridge. Moo
Doesn't exactly take much with Trump does it?

He's just loudly repeating the same lies about the $350 billion figure he has pulled out of his backside. If I was Zelensky I think I'd have punched him in the nose by now.

MOO
 
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Doesn't exactly take much with Trump does it?
Zelensky started attacking US Obama, Trump and Biden immediately. He wants the United States to jump into the war to beat Putin. He's not interested in ending the war. He took complete control. Trump gave him a nice welcome and when it became his turn he unleashed. Even JD I tried to get him to stop.

I've we're done with him. Good luck Europe.
Moo
 
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Zelensky started attacking US Obama, Trump and Biden immediately. He wants the United States to jump into the war to beat Putin. He's not interested in ending the war. He took complete control. Trump gave him a nice welcome and when it became his turn he unleashed. Even JD I tried to get him to stop.

I've we're done with him. Good luck Europe.
Moo
Good luck Europe - haha.

Cheers for the moral support. NATO in Europe could annihilate Russia's forces in days via air but you know, nukes and all that.

This man is fighting for his countries survival. There's only one real president in that room right now.
 
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Bunch of bullies. Won't even let Zelensky speak properly.
I still can't believe what's happening with the US now.
Total embarrassment on the world stage.
 
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This shouldn't be being played out in front of the world's media, it's an absolute circus.

I'm sure Russia (the ones who started this war, ruled by a murderous dictator) are absolutely laughing with glee.
 
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Bunch of bullies. Won't even let Zelensky speak properly.
I still can't believe what's happening with the US now.
I just came here to write the same thing! Horrible men playing big boys in front of this man who has been fighting to protect his land, his country’s boundaries and his people.

I would love to seem them speak to Putin like that but he is $ and they respect $.
 
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Hypocrites! The bad pretending to be good and accusing the good of being bad!
 
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Trump: 'Zelensky disrespected the US in its cherished Oval Office'​

US President Donald Trump has shared a statement after his meeting with Ukrainian President Voldymyr Zelensky in the White House.

Here's his Truth Social post in full:“We had a very meaningful meeting in the White House today.

"Much was learned that could never be understood without conversation under such fire and pressure.

"It’s amazing what comes out through emotion, and I have determined that President Zelensky is not ready for Peace if America is involved, because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in negotiations.

"I don’t want advantage, I want PEACE.

"He disrespected the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office.

"He can come back when he is ready for Peace.”



Of course I want a ceasefire, but with guarantees - Zelensky​

We're continuing to bring you fuller coverage of the angry exchange in the Oval Office between Trump and Zelensky. Scroll back through our last few posts for more.

"If you could get a ceasefire right now, I'd tell you to take it so the bullets stop flying," Trump says.

Zelensky says: "Of course I want to stop the war - "

Trump interrupts: "You say you don't want a ceasefire".

Zelensky says he wants a ceasefire deal with "guarantees".

He tells Trump to ask the Ukrainian people what they feel about a ceasefire deal.


Trump: It's very good for the American people to see this
"I think it's very good for the American people to see what's going on", Trump says, adding: "That's why I've kept this going for so long."

He repeats that Zelensky "has to be thankful".

Zelensky replies that he's "very thankful".

Trump cuts in, voice raised: "People are dying, you're running low on soldiers".

Zelensky says: "I know."


Your country is in big trouble, repeats Trump​

Continuing, Trump tells Zelensky: "Your country is in big trouble."

The Ukrainian leader tries to interject put Trump waves his hands. "No, no, you've done a lot of talking", he says. "Your country is in big trouble," he repeats.

"I know, I know," Zelensky says.

"You're not winning this," says Trump. "You have a damn good chance of coming out OK because of us."

The US president adds: "We gave you through this stupid president [a reference to Joe Biden] $350bn, we gave you military equipment... if you didn't have our military equipment this war would have been over in two weeks".

"In three days, I heard it from Putin," Zelensky replies.

"It's going to be very hard to do business like this," Trump says.
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Watch moment Zelensky, Vance and Trump get into tense exchange

Vance to Zelensky: 'Have you said 'thank you' once this entire meeting?'
If you're just joining us, we've just watched a replay of the discussion in the White House between Trump and Zelensky, and are bringing you a more in-depth look at their remarks.

Trump accuses Zelensky of "gambling with World War Three". He points his finger at the Ukrainian leader.

"What you are doing is disrespectful to the country - this country that's backed you far more than a lot of people said they should have," Trump says.

Zelensky calmly interjects: "I'm with all respect for your country".

Vice-President Vance interrupts: "Have you said 'thank you' once this entire meeting?"

Zelensky replies: "A lot of times".

Vance again says: "No, in this entire meeting, have you said 'thank you'?"

"You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation for the USA and the president who is trying to save your country."

Zelensky tries to respond, saying: "Please, you think that if you will speak very loudly about the war..."

He's cut off by Trump: "Your country is in big trouble".

 
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Trump-Zelensky news conference cancelled​


The scheduled news conference between Volodymyr Zelensky and Donald Trump has been cancelled, according to the White House, after the two presidents' tense Oval Office meeting.

 
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Zelensky started attacking US Obama, Trump and Biden immediately. He wants the United States to jump into the war to beat Putin. He's not interested in ending the war. He took complete control. Trump gave him a nice welcome and when it became his turn he unleashed. Even JD I tried to get him to stop.

I've we're done with him. Good luck Europe.
Moo
I'm very impressed with this PC.

President Trump was awesome and VP Vance was equally good in letting Zelenskyy know that he has to change his attitude and negotiate in order to save his country. 👍 JMO.
 
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One of the lowest moments in US presidential history. An administration without any moral compass. Trump is a complete disgrace to the USA. This was a ridiculously pre-arranged shouting match to make Trump and Vance look tough and give... pleasurable feelings, let's say... to the MAGA drones.

Diplomacy and negotiations don't happen in front of dozens of cameras.
 
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I hope Zelensky gets home safely. The Russians have probably been made aware of each step of his journey. Luring Zelensky away may have been the main purpose of this absurd theater. I hope Russian agents didn't get close to his plane. JMO
 
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Zelensky and his team left the WH right after the press.
 
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11m ago18.58 GMT

No mineral deals signed, White House confirms​

Not that we were in any doubt, but the White House has just confirmed that Trump and Zelenskyy did not sign a mineral deals during their talks today.

Trump has not ruled out an agreement, but not until Ukraine is ready to have a constructive conversation, a senior US official told Reuters.

 
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