Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #13

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MAR 6, 2025
Four senior members of U.S. President Donald Trump's team held secret discussions with political opponents of President Volodymyr Zelensky, Politico reported on March 6, citing three undisclosed Ukrainian lawmakers and a Republican foreign policy expert.

Rubio's remarks underscore how the Trump administration steadily adopts Kremlin narratives. Previously, Russian President Vladimir Putin falsely claimed the West is fighting Russia "with the hands of Ukrainians."

France is providing military intelligence to Ukraine, French Defense Minister Sebastien Lecornu said after the U.S. halted intelligence sharing with Kyiv, the BFM TV channel reported on March 6.

"We have intelligence resources that we are providing to the Ukrainians," Lecornu said on air on France Inter.

Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on March 6 appointing Alexander Darchiev as Russia's new ambassador to Washington.

Darchiev, a veteran diplomat with a half-decade of experience in Washington, previously served as Russia's ambassador to Canada from 2014 to 2021 and later as the director of the North American Department at the Russian Foreign Ministry.

Russian forces regularly launch drones and missiles against Ukrainian cities and infrastructure, inflicting heavy civilian casualties. A Russian missile strike against a hotel in Kryvyi Rih late on March 5, carried out shortly after the intelligence sharing pause, killed four people and injured at least 30.

According to the NYT, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has a "sizable presence" in Ukraine, with some of its officers deployed in the country to help Ukraine with targeting.

European leaders are expected to discuss the European Commission's ReArm plan, which would free up billions of euros for defense investments.

The topic of Europe's military assistance for Ukraine, even more crucial now amid the U.S. pause, is also expected to be on the agenda. It is unclear whether the EU will be able to move forward with new commitments to Ukraine as Hungary's Moscow-friendly leader, Viktor Orban, promised to block military aid.
 
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"This is a watershed moment for Europe... Europe faces clear and present danger," EU Commission head Ursula von der Leyen said in Brussels, touting a plan for mobilizing 800 billion euros ($860 billion) to arm Europe and Ukraine.

Trump admin to revoke legal status of 240,000 Ukrainian refugees, Reuters reports.The plan predates U.S. President Donald Trump's public spat with President Volodymyr Zelensky on Feb. 28 and is part of broader efforts to revoke the legal status of more than 1.8 million people staying in the U.S. on humanitarian grounds, Reuters reported.Read also: https://kyivindependent.com/trump-admin-to-revoke-legal-status-of-240-000-ukrainian-refugees-reuters-reports/

Poland, Lithuania signal openness to French nuclear deterrence for Europe."This readiness of France, this is something very promising," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk told reporters in Brussels on the sidelines of an EU summit.
 
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<modsnip> we have been providing missiles since the start of this war?? Secondly Trump said..that Europe will provide people for the peacekeeping. That America would not. That Ukraine is our neighbour and you have the Ocean between you and Europe. <modsnip: Please don't personalize>
I do realize that.

The question is.... Are they sending missiles today or are they waiting for missiles to be manufactured under the 2 billion dollar awards. ( I posted up thread)

If the European countries are dipping into their stockpiles and sending missiles to Ukraine, NOW Today, then they should be able to continue the war. Ukraine should not be running out of supplies. Ukraine shouldn't be worried if the European countries are sending them everyday like the US did.

I have diligently Google every set of phrases I can think of, to see if there are any shipments going to Ukraine today or within the last several days? I come up with zip.
Moo...
 
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Is America an ally? Right now no. As for the nukes being stationed around Europe..we have our own nukes that go in your machines. We are currently looking at changing that for Frances machinery. At this point we can not be beholden to America.
The idea that the U.S. is not an ally...I find it preposterous. Of course we are. Without the U.S. Europe would be in a bad way militarily. That reality won't change anytime in the foreseeable future.

I've not heard a European leader state they wish to cut ties with the U.S. That would be quite the news flash.
 
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All night, a rescue operation continued in Kryvyi Rih at the site of a Russian missile strike. A ballistic missile struck an ordinary hotel. Just before the attack, volunteers from a humanitarian organization – citizens of Ukraine, the United States, and the United Kingdom – had checked into the hotel. They survived because they managed to get down from their rooms in time. Unfortunately, four people were killed in this attack. My condolences to their families and loved ones.

In total, more than 30 people were injured, and all have received the necessary medical assistance. Many civilian buildings around the hotel were also damaged. Rescue workers are still on-site, and all emergency services continue to operate.

I thank everyone who is on duty these days and nights, working and serving to save lives. My gratitude goes out to the State Emergency Service of Ukraine, the National Police, medical workers, emergency responders, and all those whose work helps save lives. There must be no pause in the pressure on Russia to stop this war and terror against life.
I wonder why they didn't use the Patriot defense system, against the incoming missiles. Moo
 
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Netherlands invests $756M in drone production for Ukraine.The Dutch PM said that the package also aimed partly at Ukraine’s defence industry. The Netherlands will continue its political, military, financial and moral support,” Schoof said.

US intelligence sharing freeze deprives Ukraine of Russian strikes warning, NYT reports

Representative Jim Himes called Trump administration’s decision “unforgivable” as it affects information that “saved lives of civilians and soldiers"

Military experts proposed a European Sky Shield to defend Ukraine's nuclear plants from Russian strikes

The plan, backed by former NATO commanders, envisions 120 fighter jets patrolling Ukrainian airspace to deter strikes
 
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A big thank you to New Zealand!!!

NZ fires envoy to UK who questioned Trump's grasp of history​

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New Zealand has fired its most senior envoy to the United Kingdom over remarks that questioned US President Donald Trump's grasp of history.

At an event in London on Tuesday, High Commissioner Phil Goff compared efforts to end the war between Russia and Ukraine to the 1938 Munich Agreement, which allowed Adolf Hitler to annex part of Czechoslovakia.

Mr Goff recalled how Sir Winston Churchill had criticised the agreement, then said of the US leader: "President Trump has restored the bust of Churchill to the Oval Office. But do you think he really understands history?"

His comments were "deeply disappointing" and made his position "untenable", New Zealand's Foreign Minister Winston Peters said.
Tbh he is only said what most think over here
 
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I do realize that.

The question is.... Are they sending missiles today or are they waiting for missiles to be manufactured under the 2 billion dollar awards. ( I posted up thread)

If the European countries are dipping into their stockpiles and sending missiles to Ukraine, NOW Today, then they should be able to continue the war. Ukraine should not be running out of supplies. Ukraine shouldn't be worried if the European countries are sending them everyday like the US did.

I have diligently Google every set of phrases I can think of, to see if there are any shipments going to Ukraine today or within the last several days? I come up with zip.
Moo...
As was explained in your very own link those missiles from Ireland are being prepared for future use. NOT NOW

Why do you think there would be announcements to say there are shipments going today? it does not work that way.
 
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“It is basically Russian propaganda from the mouth of the American President,” say Nasty and Gas, American volunteers from the 13th Khartiia Brigade of the National Guard of Ukraine, who came to Ukraine last year to fight against the Russian invaders.

“Europe is at a turning point in history... Washington has become the court of Nero, an incendiary emperor, submissive courtiers, and a buffoon on ketamine tasked with purging the civil service.”

French senator Claude Malhuret tells it like it is.
 
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Well they seem to be struggling now. Having emergency meeting, discussions with Parliament on how to fund additional support for their own defense, much less Ukraine. All reported in the media.

The US is no longer going to fund the Ukrainian war.

Has there been any media our government announcement from European countries that they are actively, today sending in military supplies? Have there been any announcements.... We just sent ... Such and such directly to Ukraine?

The that's publicly announced that we have Frozen military supplies going into Ukraine. I haven't heard anyone else and now that they have actually sent a shipment to Ukraine. I hear a lot of we support, we're with you, we're stepping up, but no Action.

Let's see what comes out of the conference today in Belgium. maybe some of those countries will write a check today. It does look doubtful though.

Moo
Btw they are not struggling at all. This is how professional leaders work when trying to sort things out in emergencies.
 
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Is America an ally? Right now no. As for the nukes being stationed around Europe..we have our own nukes that go in your machines. We are currently looking at changing that for Frances machinery. At this point we can not be beholden to America.
I haven't heard the PM UK, state we are no longer an ally.

I'm glad that France is stepping up and realizing that they must reinforce their own defenses. US should be considered a partner, not the only source. I agree, your country should not be beholden to the US, they need to be a partner.
Moo
 
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Your posts confuse me , To make it clearer. From the beginning of the war we have sent whatever has been asked for. We have never ever said no. They do not need to make announcements. It has been an ongoing thing. I am seriously confused at where you get your information from. Maybe the same place as Trumps claims?
Well Ukraine is asking for a lot more from the European allies. Let's see if the meeting in Belgium today, produces the resources that Ukraine needs a immediately.
Moo
 
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The idea that the U.S. is not an ally...I find it preposterous. Of course we are. Without the U.S. Europe would be in a bad way militarily. That reality won't change anytime in the foreseeable future.

I've not heard a European leader state they wish to cut ties with the U.S. That would be quite the news flash.
I live here. We are being left open to attack. It is that simple. IF America was our allies they would not be trying to block their access to things. Trump has made his decision and Europe has moved on.
 
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Russian officials have been dismissive of Europe over the last few days. State television says Europe has lost influence.

Instead, it talks about “the triangle of Russia, China and the US.” Europe, as far as Moscow is concerned, is no longer a major force.

Meanwhile, one of the Russian newspapers this week described the US as Russia's “partner.”

It’s quite a turnaround.

 
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I'm glad that France is stepping up and realizing that they must reinforce their own defenses. US should be considered a partner, not the only source. I agree, your country should not be beholden to the US, they need to be a partner.
Moo

The U.S. has always been a partner, not the sole provider of European defense. NATO itself is an alliance, not a U.S. military subsidy. European nations, including France, have long invested in their own defense—France, in particular, has one of the most capable militaries in Europe, including nuclear deterrence independent of the U.S. The idea that Europe is only now ‘stepping up’ ignores decades of reality.
 
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I haven't heard the PM UK, state we are no longer an ally.

I'm glad that France is stepping up and realizing that they must reinforce their own defenses. US should be considered a partner, not the only source. I agree, your country should not be beholden to the US, they need to be a partner.
Moo
France has ALWAYS stepped up in this war and honestly I am not a fan of Macron but imo he has grown as a leader throughout all this. As for being partners that is a matter of dispute. The fact is we can not be in a position where America tells us we cant use Missiles. Therefore its better to deal with France.
 
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Well Ukraine is asking for a lot more from the European allies. Let's see if the meeting in Belgium today, produces the resources that Ukraine needs a immediately.
Moo
Just no words
 
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Well Ukraine is asking for a lot more from the European allies. Let's see if the meeting in Belgium today, produces the resources that Ukraine needs a immediately.
Moo

Of course, Ukraine is asking more from European allies—because the U.S. has suddenly abandoned them, and now those allies have to scramble to make up for America having a hissy fit. This isn’t about Ukraine demanding too much; it’s about the U.S. pulling the rug out from under them when they need support the most. IMO
 
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