Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #14

[statt#1]

It's my opinion. I've seen no evidence that Russia is losing the war and ready to surrender. They continue to take land from Ukraine. I wish Russia was losing the war, it would make peace much easier.

Yes, Russians hate Ukrainians, stated by Zelensky at the famous Oval office meeting. I do believe, it is an ethnic cleansing. If the war continues, there Will be few ukrainians left alive.

I don't know any other way to save lives than to end the war. Russia is not going to back down.

Moo

This is true. Anyone who thinks Russia is militarily weak hasn't taken the time to read or research the actual data. Those Russians will eat road tar and put food money in to armaments. I don't think for a second that Putin can be trusted, but I know the meat grinder in Ukraine simply will not end without bringing him to the table.

No amount of money can win the war for Ukraine. Russia has LOTS of bodies to donate. How many bodies do the warmongers wish to donate to the fray? Trump has said....ZERO. He's done. The American people are done. That's why we put him in office.

If the warmongers have not had enough blood to clean up their mouth and bring Putin to the table, maybe another year or two of the mayhem will change their minds.

Truly sad.

Zelensky messed up bad in Washington. Real bad.

 

[Deleted member 352484]

It’s not a shock at all. Doesn’t mean I have to be a bootlicker and like it.

Accepting reality does not equate to being a bootlicker IMO.

 

[UK Girl]

This is true. Anyone who thinks Russia is militarily weak hasn't taken the time to read or research the actual data. Those Russians will eat road tar and put food money in to armaments. I don't think for a second that Putin can be trusted, but I know the meat grinder in Ukraine simply will not end without bringing him to the table.

No amount of money can win the war for Ukraine. Russia has LOTS of bodies to donate. How many bodies do the warmongers wish to donate to the fray? Trump has said....ZERO. He's done. The American people are done. That's why we put him in office.

If the warmongers have not had enough blood to clean up their mouth and bring Putin to the table, maybe another year or two of the mayhem will change their minds.

Truly sad.

Zelensky messed up bad in Washington. Real bad.

I was always scared of Russia. Not any more. Their army has proven to not be the best IMO.

 

[Stella123]

This is true. Anyone who thinks Russia is militarily weak hasn't taken the time to read or research the actual data. Those Russians will eat road tar and put food money in to armaments. I don't think for a second that Putin can be trusted, but I know the meat grinder in Ukraine simply will not end without bringing him to the table.

No amount of money can win the war for Ukraine. Russia has LOTS of bodies to donate. How many bodies do the warmongers wish to donate to the fray? Trump has said....ZERO. He's done. The American people are done. That's why we put him in office.

If the warmongers have not had enough blood to clean up their mouth and bring Putin to the table, maybe another year or two of the mayhem will change their minds.

Truly sad.

Zelensky messed up bad in Washington. Real bad.

See the article in my post above. The data on Russia is there - Russia was really struggling in January. JMO

 

[Stella123]

Trump says the money is secondary, but it isn't. Putin is still a war criminal.

 

[statt#1]

See the article in my post above. The data on Russia is there - Russia was really struggling in January. JMO

available manpower...
fit for service...

that's "millions".

armored vehicles, artillery, tanks.....take a look.....

Comparison of Ukraine and Russia Military Strengths (2025)

Comparison of two world military powers in side-by-side format.

www.globalfirepower.com

 

[Stella123]

Comparison of Ukraine and Russia Military Strengths (2025)

Comparison of two world military powers in side-by-side format.

www.globalfirepower.com

That is looking at military numbers - not the whole picture. The article above shows Putin even admitted he was having problems.

 

[statt#1]

That is looking at military numbers - not the whole picture. The article above shows Putin even admitted he was having problems.

War tactics, disinformation, lies, untruths, it's all part of war. That link I gave, even if only remotely accurate, shows why Trump seeks peace. No amount of warfare in Ukraine will defeat Putin. It's a bloodbath, a meatgrinder. Brutal. Zelensky messed up big time in Washington, all Ukrainian blood is on his hands, and the hands of the warmongers who fail to support Trump in bringing Putin to the table.....my opinion.

 

[UK Girl]

War tactics, disinformation, lies, untruths, it's all part of war. That link I gave, even if only remotely accurate, shows why Trump seeks peace. No amount of warfare in Ukraine will defeat Putin. It's a bloodbath, a meatgrinder. Brutal. Zelensky messed up big time in Washington, all Ukrainian blood is on his hands, and the hands of the warmongers who fail to support Trump in bringing Putin to the table.....my opinion.

Most of the world understands that Zelensky was not at fault last Friday. They also recognize that Trump had verbally abused him and lied for weeks before that meeting. It isn't Zelensky that has pulled money, pulled sharing security, sharing anything that could help him that has probably led to deaths and injuries. Thank fully we have Macron around that is trying his best to help him.

 

[acutename]

How Ukraine’s Zelensky went from Europe’s war hero to Trump’s punching bag

If you read about Ukraine's past presidents, the questions of Europe's vs. Russia's influence and all kinds of sanctions and even bloody fights is not new. It is a recurring theme:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/13/europe/ukraine-poroshenko-sanctions-latam-intl/index.html

Profile: Ukraine's ousted President Viktor Yanukovych

Ukraine's Viktor Yanukovych has the rare distinction of having been ousted twice from Ukraine's presidency after giant street protests.

www.bbc.com

 

[Stella123]

War tactics, disinformation, lies, untruths, it's all part of war. That link I gave, even if only remotely accurate, shows why Trump seeks peace. No amount of warfare in Ukraine will defeat Putin. It's a bloodbath, a meatgrinder. Brutal. Zelensky messed up big time in Washington, all Ukrainian blood is on his hands, and the hands of the warmongers who fail to support Trump in bringing Putin to the table.....my opinion.

Whether Zelensky handled something well or not isn't the main issue. The main issue was Trump was on his own territory and undermined Zelensky, on TV, to the whole world. Which got major angry shock reactions.

But the main issue is that Trump withdrew aid and intelligence, overnight, leaving Ukrainians to be slaughtered. It is Trump that has blood on his hands. JMO

 

[LovesPeace2]

I was always scared of Russia. Not any more. Their army has proven to not be the best IMO.

Yep I grew up scared of Russians they have been slaughtering Ukrainian people for years even before holodomore . Putin will not rest until he does. He wants our land wants Ukraini . He wants it so Ukrainian people don't exist I know that because our families have been slaughtered for years. But we will not give up we deserve our country and to live peacefully . We are not scared any more we will fight till the end .jmoo

 

[SouthAussie]

That is looking at military numbers - not the whole picture. The article above shows Putin even admitted he was having problems.

If Putin wasn't having problems he wouldn't have needed to call in North Korean troops.

imo

 

[UK Girl]

Yep I grew up scared of Russians they have been slaughtering Ukrainian people for years even before holodomore . Putin will not rest until he does. He wants our land wants Ukraini . He wants it so Ukrainian people don't exist I know that because our families have been slaughtered for years. But we will not give up we deserve our country and to live peacefully . We are not scared any more we will fight till the end .jmoo

Honestly, good luck to you and I am so sorry you have been treated like this by Russia and Trump. You deserved so much more and I hope that one day you will be able to live in peace <3

Btw your people have been heroes <3

 

[UK Girl]

If Putin wasn't having problems he wouldn't have needed to call in North Korean troops.

imo

Isn't Belarus helping as well?

 

[Deleted member 352484]

Have you actually looked to see what other leaders have said from other countries? the press from the other countries?
Zelensky is the President of Ukraine. The very same one they was trying to get rid of before he ever went to the White House. If Trump can deal with Putin...he can deal with Putin!

I watched the entire Oval Office meeting for myself and was disgusted with Zelensky. Lindsey Graham, again a staunch ally of Zelensky, and I are on the same page. Did you watch the video where he talked about Zelensky's behavior...not only in the Oval Office but in Munich being unacceptable?

 

[UK Girl]

I watched the entire Oval Office meeting for myself and was disgusted with Zelensky. Lindsey Graham, again a staunch ally of Zelensky, and I are on the same page. Did you watch the video where he talked about Zelensky's behavior...not only in the Oval Office but in Munich being unacceptable?

I would expect nothing more from his staunch allies. That means nothing to me. The impression of the World's press did however.

 

[LovesPeace2]

Honestly, good luck to you and I am so sorry you have been treated like this by Russia and Trump. You deserved so much more and I hope that one day you will be able to live in peace <3

Yep we live in Canada but still have so much family there . It's just disgusting what's going on. I am so greatful seeing what the EU UK Australia can do when everyone works together as a team . If only that would happen more often then we wouldn't have this. Unfortunately I don't know if Ukraini will ever know peace again but hopefully. Unfortunately trump made this war worse and ticked off everyone .jmooo

 

[UK Girl]

Yep we live in Canada but still have so much family there . It's just disgusting what's going on. I am so greatful seeing what the EU UK Australia can do when everyone works together as a team . If only that would happen more often then we wouldn't have this. Unfortunately I don't know if Ukraini will ever know peace again but hopefully. Unfortunately trump made this war worse and ticked off everyone .jmooo

I agree unfortunately
Yeah its impressed me the way the teams have worked together since last Friday Also great to see all the other leaders immediately throw their support behind Zelensky. He looked so touched when Starmer went up to him and hugged him and people in the streets cheered for Zelensky.

 

[Deleted member 352484]

You mean Lindsey Graham, who has the reputation of being one of the biggest flip floppers in Congress on many issues throughout his entire career? He was literally telling Biden to give Ukraine more aid in 2023. Here’s his own tweet:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1632130571093659648

That's what I said . Lindsey Graham was been one of Zelensky's staunchest allies. Key word "was". He's lobbied the last three years for Ukraine and visited it 8 or 9 times.