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Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #14
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America would be beyond stupid to trust Putin. I just can’t shake the feeling that him and Musk are playing Trump like a fiddle, a two pronged approach. Who knows what’s really going on other than a lot of power games, but why is Trump now supporting Ukraine militarily, just after declaring his special relationship status with Vlad? #itscomplicated
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They need to fix the sarcophagus they damaged at Chernobyl with that damn drone attack. It could of been so much worse.
Does Putin want to get rid of Zelensky?
Image source, Getty ImagesImage caption,
Volodymyr Zelensky was elected president in Ukraine in 2019
Putin has long sought to get rid of Ukraine's elected pro-Western president, and Zelensky was apparently a target from the very start of the war.
Russian troops made two attempts to storm the presidential compound soon after the invasion, according to Zelensky's adviser, and Ukraine's elected leader said they wanted him dead.
"The enemy has designated me as target number one; my family is target number two.
"They want to destroy Ukraine politically, external by destroying the head of state."
Zelensky said later that Putin had initially tried to replace him with the wealthy head of a pro-Russian party, Viktor Medvedchuk, who was accused of treason in Ukraine and is now in Russia.
Even now, three years on, Putin refuses direct peace talks with Zelensky "because of his illegitimacy" - a false narrative that has been repeated by President Trump.
As evidence Putin cites the postponement of Ukraine's March 2024 presidential election, although it is because of Russia's war that Ukraine is under martial law and elections are barred under the constitution.
Putin's own re-election in 2024 is highly questionable, as Russia's opposition leaders are either in exile or dead.
Why did Putin’s Russia invade Ukraine and how could the war end?
Russia hoped to overthrow Ukraine's pro-Western government, but Moscow's war has dragged on for more than three years.
www.bbc.co.uk
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The nation that Britain and many others saw as an ally for so long may not be any longer
1h ago23.05 GMT
Russia launches air attack on Ukraine capital Kyiv
Russia launched an overnight air attack on Kyiv, with air defence forces engaged in repelling the strikes, Vitali Klitschko, mayor of the Ukrainian capital said.
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Unfortunately, this is a rhetorical question.
Putin’s going to bide his time but never stop until he gets him killed. As he’s done to anyone who has publicly opposed him.
Stella, did you mean to write “unquestionable?”
He’s going to win as long as he’s alive, like all dictators. He’s been in power since 1999 when he was first elected as president, with an interlude where he temporarily switched off with Medvedev as part of a deal to circumvent the Constitution, until he had the Constitution amended in his favor.
JMO and also this very explanatory article:
As Putin begins another 6-year term, he is entering a new era of extraordinary power in Russia
The inauguration comes two days before Victory Day, Russia's most important secular holiday, commemorating the Soviet Red Army's capture of Berlin in World War II.
apnews.com
First three paragraphs:
Just a few months short of a quarter-century as Russia’s leader, Vladimir Putin on Tuesday will put his hand on a copy of the constitution and begin another six-year term as president wielding extraordinary power.
Since becoming acting president on the last day of 1999, Putin has shaped Russia into a monolith — crushing political opposition, running independent-minded journalists out of the country and promoting an increasing devotion to prudish “traditional values” that pushes many in society into the margins.
His influence is so dominant that other officials could only stand submissively on the sidelines as he launched a war in Ukraine despite expectations the invasion would bring international opprobrium and harsh economic sanctions, as well as cost Russia dearly in the blood of its soldiers.
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I think Putin will agree to the ceasefire, to enable the "secondary round of negotiations". US were dealing with Putin before Zelensky.
The danger there IMO is Putin will just use the ceasefire period to get stronger and build up his forces and weaponry.
Also Putin has a history of creating low level disruption - planting people and so on to start "insurgencies" in a country - like he did in the other occupied areas of Ukraine. JMO
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Russia's attempt to stop Ukraine leaving its sphere of influence goes back years, and its initial invasion began in 2014 when pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovych was ousted after months of mass demonstrations.
Yanukovych had abandoned an EU deal under Putin's pressure, prompting protests that ended when snipers shot dead dozens of demonstrators. Yanukovych soon fled to Russia.
Putin quickly seized Ukraine's Crimean peninsula and Russian proxies took up arms against the government, occupying parts of the eastern Luhansk and Donetsk regions.
Two attempts to stop the war came to nothing.
They were known as the Minsk agreements and were brokered by France, Germany and Russia itself. They reduced the scale of violence, but Zelensky has called them a trap that created a frozen conflict on Russia's terms.
Both sides accused each other of violations, and the Kremlin said ultimately the failed accords were a precursor to Moscow's full-scale invasion.
The Ukrainian leader has warned the Trump administration not to trust Putin: "He broke the ceasefire, he killed our people."
www.bbc.co.uk
The danger there IMO is Putin will just use the ceasefire period to get stronger and build up his forces and weaponry.
Also Putin has a history of creating low level disruption - planting people and so on to start "insurgencies" in a country - like he did in the other occupied areas of Ukraine. JMO
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Russia's attempt to stop Ukraine leaving its sphere of influence goes back years, and its initial invasion began in 2014 when pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovych was ousted after months of mass demonstrations.
Yanukovych had abandoned an EU deal under Putin's pressure, prompting protests that ended when snipers shot dead dozens of demonstrators. Yanukovych soon fled to Russia.
Putin quickly seized Ukraine's Crimean peninsula and Russian proxies took up arms against the government, occupying parts of the eastern Luhansk and Donetsk regions.
Two attempts to stop the war came to nothing.
They were known as the Minsk agreements and were brokered by France, Germany and Russia itself. They reduced the scale of violence, but Zelensky has called them a trap that created a frozen conflict on Russia's terms.
Both sides accused each other of violations, and the Kremlin said ultimately the failed accords were a precursor to Moscow's full-scale invasion.
The Ukrainian leader has warned the Trump administration not to trust Putin: "He broke the ceasefire, he killed our people."
Why did Putin’s Russia invade Ukraine and how could the war end?
Russia hoped to overthrow Ukraine's pro-Western government, but Moscow's war has dragged on for more than three years.
www.bbc.co.uk
now00.08 GMT
Air raid alarms are sounding and there are explosions in both Kyiv and Kharkiv, the RIA news agency reports.
Air raid alarms are sounding and there are explosions in both Kyiv and Kharkiv, the RIA news agency reports.
It wasn't my words
It was a quote from the linked article.I've gone back and edited the post so the quoted piece is in orange and larger. The link to the article is at the bottom.
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I see it now, thank you.It wasn't my words
I've gone back and edited the post so the quoted piece is in orange and larger. The link to the article is at the bottom.
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Probably because he has something to gain from the deal and knows that Putin will gain from it as well.
With all due respect, I don't think it's as complicated as some make it out to be. Trump, Musk, Putin... they're narcissistic opportunists. Simple as that.
Info about Ukrainian drone technology.
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If the Kremlin’s figures are to be believed – they usually are not, but in this case they might be accurate – Ukraine flew 337 aircraft into Russian airspace.
The drones used are made in Ukraine, employ the latest technology, and were sent in such numbers that Russian air defences were unable to cope.
Most nights, Ukraine is hit by waves of 100-200 cheap Shahed drones – a 40kg bomb powered by a lawnmower engine – which are sent along with ballistic missiles carrying half a tonne of high explosives.
These swarms are intended to distract and overwhelm Ukraine’s defences, and lately have included dummy drones carrying no explosives, which are used to waste a multi-million dollar air-defence missile supplied by Europe or the US.
In a show of strength and defiance after the US cut military and intelligence support for Kyiv, Ukraine has now done the same.
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However, its drones are higher grade and use the latest technology to get around Russian radar, avoid its surface-to-air missiles, and fly on to targets accurately by navigating themselves.
The development of a huge unmanned air force has been driven by a Ukrainian government announcement earlier this year that it would produce 30,000 long-range drones and 3,000 ballistic missiles.
Ukraine used to be the main producer of rockets for the Soviet space programme. Its second city, Kharkiv, remains a world centre for rocket science, and its development of drone technology has been supercharged by arms investors from around the world keen to cash in on Ukraine’s unparalleled experience in this new kind of warfare.
“We’re leading the world in some of this weapons technology and we just need a bit more time to get right ahead of the Russians,” said a senior officer in the new Ukrainian UAV Force."
www.independent.co.uk
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If the Kremlin’s figures are to be believed – they usually are not, but in this case they might be accurate – Ukraine flew 337 aircraft into Russian airspace.
The drones used are made in Ukraine, employ the latest technology, and were sent in such numbers that Russian air defences were unable to cope.
Most nights, Ukraine is hit by waves of 100-200 cheap Shahed drones – a 40kg bomb powered by a lawnmower engine – which are sent along with ballistic missiles carrying half a tonne of high explosives.
These swarms are intended to distract and overwhelm Ukraine’s defences, and lately have included dummy drones carrying no explosives, which are used to waste a multi-million dollar air-defence missile supplied by Europe or the US.
In a show of strength and defiance after the US cut military and intelligence support for Kyiv, Ukraine has now done the same.
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However, its drones are higher grade and use the latest technology to get around Russian radar, avoid its surface-to-air missiles, and fly on to targets accurately by navigating themselves.
The development of a huge unmanned air force has been driven by a Ukrainian government announcement earlier this year that it would produce 30,000 long-range drones and 3,000 ballistic missiles.
Ukraine used to be the main producer of rockets for the Soviet space programme. Its second city, Kharkiv, remains a world centre for rocket science, and its development of drone technology has been supercharged by arms investors from around the world keen to cash in on Ukraine’s unparalleled experience in this new kind of warfare.
“We’re leading the world in some of this weapons technology and we just need a bit more time to get right ahead of the Russians,” said a senior officer in the new Ukrainian UAV Force."
How did Ukraine’s massive drone attack manage to break through Moscow’s defences?
The drones used are made in Ukraine, employ the latest technology, and were sent in such numbers that Russian air defences were unable to cope
www.independent.co.uk
Is Zelensky in Kiev at the moment?
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Are we watching “The Apprentice” again?
from: Trump turns the White House lawn into a Tesla showroom
from: Trump turns the White House lawn into a Tesla showroom
You will need translate
Un sous-marin nucléaire Barracuda traverse l’Atlantique pour la première fois et fait escale… en mode VRP
Alors que le Canada s’apprête à renouveler sa flotte sous-marine, le sous-marin nucléaire d’attaque Tourville, construit par Naval Group, a fait escale en Nouvelle-Ecosse.actu.fr
A Barracuda nuclear submarine crosses the Atlantic for the first time and stops... in VRP mode
As Canada prepares to renew its submarine fleet, the nuclear attack submarine Turville, built by Naval Group, has called in Nova Scotia.
This is the market of the century (for the time being). Canada intends to have a new underwater fleet, comprising up to twelve conventionally propelled vessels capable of navigating under the ice.From your link
Hours after Ukraine’s declaration, Russia launched an air attack on Kyiv, with mayor Vitali Klitschko saying air defences were engaged in repelling the strikes. Strikes were also reported by the RIA news agency on Kharkiv. RIA cited the Ukrainian Ministry of Digital Transformation, which said air raid alerts were issued in Kyiv ten regions.
Love the red color, very fitting of course.
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