Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #2

[mickey2942]

No it's not working....pieces of it @Angleterre

Why Putin's plan hasn't worked so far
Status: 02/27/2022 00:41 a.m
Russia is advancing in Ukraine but is encountering significant resistance. The losses seem relatively high, and people in Russia know little about them - yet.

By Patrick Gensing, tagesschau.de

It has been almost a week since Russian President Vladimir Putin gave the order to invade Ukraine. Since then, his troops have been able to advance far into the neighboring country, but various analysts believe that Russia is making much slower progress than the Kremlin expected and planned.

This is indicated, among other things, by fighting around an airport near Kiev, where the attackers wanted to build a bridgehead for troop transport, but initially did not succeed.

Ukraine's anti-aircraft defense has so far not been able to completely eliminate Russia - with fatal consequences: Ukraine claims to have shot down two Russian transport planes in the night from Friday to Saturday alone, in which special forces were allegedly brought inland. According to the AP news agency, US sources confirmed this information, but so far there are no pictures or videos as evidence.

There also seemed to be problems in supplying the advancing troops. Videos show burnt-out Russian military transports that were supposed to deliver supplies. There are also increasing reports of Russian tanks stranded without fuel.

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Reality check propaganda
But there is growing evidence that the defenders' morale is significantly higher than that of the attackers. As Ukraine fights as David against Goliath Russia and the population pulls together, the Russian attackers are confronted with a reality that doesn't fit with the Kremlin's propaganda.

Instead of being greeted by a jubilant populace eager to be liberated from a supposed "Nazi regime," the invaders find a well-prepared army and a populace willing to fight. Even without weapons, Ukrainians confront Russian tanks.

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Parallel world in Russian state media
The Russian state media paints a completely distorted picture of the events that has less and less in common with reality: there is no mention of the war, there are no reports of Russian casualties, and allegedly there is no fighting in Kiev at all, only in the Donbass.

Many Russians are still convinced that no Russians were killed. A ticking time bomb until the edifice of lies of the government and the state media collapses. Although Putin controls his propaganda stations as weapons in the information war , total control of information is hardly possible in the age of social media.

So it's only a matter of time before videos of dead Russian soldiers, destroyed military columns and prisoners being paraded reach more people in Russia. Then the mood could quickly turn against the war.

etc.

Now, that would be interesting. How would Putin deal with civil unrest? People protesting the war in Ukraine?

 

[sunshineray]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497929591209529347?t=9L6CU-89sAS21Rp6EgE15g&s=19

️️️BREAKING: Ukraine confirms peace talks with Russia today.

During a phone call with Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, President Volodymyr Zelensky agreed that the Ukrainian delegation would meet with the Russian delegation without preconditions on the Ukrainian-Belarusian border, near the Pripyat River.

God please let peace and honor prevail <3

 

[dotr]

Last Updated 8 min ago
Russia demands Google restore access to its media YouTube channels in Ukraine
''MOSCOW, Feb 27 (Reuters) - Russia's state communications regulator on Sunday said it had written to Alphabet Inc's (GOOGL.O) Google and demanded that access to Russian media's YouTube channels be restored on Ukrainian territory.

The regulator, Roskomnadzor, said it wanted all restrictions imposed on the Russian-language YouTube channels of media outlets RBC, TV Zvezda and Sputnik to be removed.

Moscow on Friday said it was partially limiting access to Meta Platforms Inc's (FB.O) Facebook, accusing it of "censoring" Russian media''

 

[AliceInPain]

Did anyone see when the meeting is supposed to happen?
I'm feeling really nervous about that. *poison*

 

[Bit of hope]

“
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — In a dramatic escalation of East-West tensions over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin ordered Russian nuclear forces put on high alert Sunday in response to what he called “aggressive statements” by leading NATO powers.

The order means Putin has ordered Russia’s nuclear weapons prepared for increased readiness to launch, raising the threat that the tensions could boil over into nuclear warfare. In giving it, the Russian leader also cited hard-hitting financial sanctions imposed by the West against Russia, including Putin himself.

Speaking at a meeting with his top officials, Putin directed the Russian defense minister and the chief of the military’s General Staff to put the nuclear deterrent forces in a “special regime of combat duty.”

“Western countries aren’t only taking unfriendly actions against our country in the economic sphere, but top officials from leading NATO members made aggressive statements regarding our country,” Putin said in televised comments.”

Putin puts Russia's nuclear forces on alert, cites sanctions

It was posted some min ago in swedish news.

How does this match in a rational way with peace talks?

 

[Bit of hope]

Did anyone see when the meeting is supposed to happen?
I'm feeling really nervous about that. *poison*

Me too....If he is smart he is not going to show up himself....

 

[tedtink]

I am not holding my breathe, but am very hopeful progress is made with peace talks. Without progress, I fear escalation:

Agree.
Putin is facing very competent resistance from Ukraine. This war isn't going the way he wanted IMO.
What will he do to save face?
He seems unhinged, I dread to think what he'll do next!

 

[Fika]

How does this match in a rational way with peace talks?

Exactly! It doesn’t. I’m not having high hopes for the peace talks. Unfortunately. Hope I’m wrong.

 

[Sarahlou]

“
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — In a dramatic escalation of East-West tensions over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin ordered Russian nuclear forces put on high alert Sunday in response to what he called “aggressive statements” by leading NATO powers.

The order means Putin has ordered Russia’s nuclear weapons prepared for increased readiness to launch, raising the threat that the tensions could boil over into nuclear warfare. In giving it, the Russian leader also cited hard-hitting financial sanctions imposed by the West against Russia, including Putin himself.

Speaking at a meeting with his top officials, Putin directed the Russian defense minister and the chief of the military’s General Staff to put the nuclear deterrent forces in a “special regime of combat duty.”

“Western countries aren’t only taking unfriendly actions against our country in the economic sphere, but top officials from leading NATO members made aggressive statements regarding our country,” Putin said in televised comments.”

Putin puts Russia's nuclear forces on alert, cites sanctions

It was posted some min ago in swedish news.

This is frightening. Putin desperately needs removing

 

[AliceInPain]

sbm/ ebm

“Top officials in leading NATO countries have allowed themselves to make aggressive comments about our country, therefore I hereby order the minister of Defense and the chief of the General Staff [of the RF Armed Forces] to place the Russian Army Deterrence Force on combat alert,” Putin said...
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The Russian President also said the sanctions placed on Russia were unlawful.

Live updates: Russia invades Ukraine

Yup, he's gone totally crazy.

 

[Fika]

Did anyone see when the meeting is supposed to happen?
I'm feeling really nervous about that. *poison*

No details about that as far as I know. Im also feeling nervous.

 

[dotr]

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Feb 27 2022
Ukraine President Says Russia Is Purposely Shelling Civilian Targets - YouTube

''Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Sunday that Russia is consciously bombarding residential areas and other civilian targets. "They are fighting against everyone and everything alive, against kindergartens, against residential buildings and ambulance cars," Zelenskiy said in a video address, given in Russian. He also said Ukraine is ready for peace talks with Russia but not in Belarus, which was a staging ground for Moscow's invasion. (Russian with English subtitles)''

 

[dotr]

Did anyone see when the meeting is supposed to happen?
I'm feeling really nervous about that. *poison*

Hopefully no ''refreshments'' will be served....
Also, that they have people guarding water filtration plants etc.... imo, speculation.

 

[Fika]

“
More than 100,000 people protested in solidarity with Ukraine in Berlin on Sunday, calling for the end of Russia's invasion and saying history should not repeat itself.

Train and underground service was interrupted in some parts of the German capital as thousands made their way to the Brandenburg Gate in central Berlin, near the Russian embassy.

The crowd of protesters bearing signs reading: "Stop the War", "Putin's last war" and "We stand with Ukraine" along with Ukrainian and European Union flags, extended from the Victory Column in the heart of the capital along the Straße des 17. Juni street and boulevard to the Brandenburg Gate. The street is named after the June 17 1953 uprising in East Germany against its communist rulers.”




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-02-27/more-than-100-000-people-in-berlin-protest-russias-invasion%3Fcontext%3Damp

 

[tedtink]

Ukrainian envoys to meet with Russian diplomats as Russian troops draw closer to Kyiv, Zelensky's office says
The Ukraine president's office has said Ukrainian envoys will meet with Russian diplomats as Russian troops draw closer to Kyiv.

More on this breaking news story to follow.

Russia-Ukraine latest: Vladimir Putin puts nuclear deterrent forces on high alert over Nato's 'unfriendly' sanctions

 

[sunshineray]

BBC World News TV reporting the EU Foreign Affairs Ministers are meeting again tonight, third meeting in a week's time and one of the items on the table will be funding "lethal equipment" ammunition to the Ukraine

EU Ministers To Discuss Helping Ukraine With Weapons, Supplies

 

[sunshineray]

Me too....If he is smart he is not going to show up himself....

I don't think the President is going, just like Putin wouldn't go. There will be delegates on both sides.

 

[tedtink]

Run on the banks in Russia continuing despite Putin's earlier reassurance.......

Russia-Ukraine latest: Vladimir Putin puts nuclear deterrent forces on high alert over Nato's 'unfriendly' sanctions

 

[Tiff23fr]

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[mickey2942]

Ukraine, Russia diplomats to meet on Belarus border

Great. I remember, as a child, having "nuclear bomb" attack drills at school. I felt secured under my small school desk. Everything was going to be fine.

Sigh.