Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #4

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holy! I literally jump out of my seat at one point!!
You can actually see the tracer rounds in that video. Those reporters have nerves of steel. I just get the feeling that it's only a matter of time until one loses their life. This isn't like when the US conducts operations, and there is close contact to ensure forces don't accidentally engage an area where they are stationed.

Just indiscriminate violence by Russia.
 
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You can actually see the tracer rounds in that video. Those reporters have nerves of steel. I just get the feeling that it's only a matter of time until one loses their life. This isn't like when the US conducts operations, and there is close contact to ensure forces don't accidentally engage an area where they are stationed.

Just indiscriminate violence by Russia.

Who was shooting at them? Were they trying to enter a Russian controlled area?
 
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PA Broadcast at the nuclear facility last night during the attacks:

The video shows the inside of the control room as an announcement rings out on a PA system aimed at the Russian forces outside.

Here is what the announcement said:

"Stop shooting at a nuclear dangerous facility. Stop shooting immediately! You threaten the security of the whole world!"
"The work of the vital organs of the Zaporizhzhia station may be disrupted. It will be impossible for us to restore it."
"You are endangering the security of the entire world. Attention! Stop shooting at a nuclear hazardous facility. Stop shooting at a nuclear hazardous facility!"
"Stop shooting at a nuclear hazardous facility! Attention! Stop it!”

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War in Ukraine: Russians on boycotts, sanctions and cancellations

'Life is crumbling'

Since last week's invasion, there has been a global cultural and sporting backlash against Russia. But do these bans matter to Russians who are now considering their own future as Western air spaces close down, their currency slumps and curbs intensify on free press?


Its athletes were banned from the Beijing Winter Paralympics the day before the games got under way and Russia's footballers won't be playing Poland this month. Musicians from around the world are calling off planned events in Russia.

"It's hard to imagine how long it will take Russia to be considered a part of the world cultural landscape again," Lena, a young woman who works in Moscow, told the BBC.

Lena asked for her identity to be protected - the names of some other interviewees in this article have been changed too.

"It's impossible to support the illusion of normality while the human tragedy unfolds in Ukraine," Lena said.

"Certainly, moaning about isolation and economic disasters is nothing compared to what the poor people of Ukraine are experiencing every day now, and we all feel absolutely shattered that helping them is treason here."

It's dangerous to speak out in Russia - thousands of protesters against the war have been detained, while the country's leadership has pressed on with the assault.

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‘90% of houses are damaged’: Russia’s Syria-honed tactics lay Ukraine towns to waste

Residents say shelling of Schastia and Volnovakha is revenge for standing up to ‘Russian aggression’

Happiness lies in ruins. This small town – Schastia in Ukrainian – has been out of the headlines since Moscow took its brutal war against civilians to the country’s biggest cities.

But it is here, and in nearby Volnovakha, that the illegal tactics of terrorising civilians for military aims, honed in Syria and then brought back so close to home, have reached a grim high point.

There have been terrible strikes on homes, schools and hospitals around Ukraine. But residents of both towns say the barrage of shelling, rocket assaults and airstrikes since the start of the war has damaged or destroyed nearly every building in their towns, a comprehensive devastation as yet unmatched elsewhere.

The Russian flag has now been raised over the ruins of Schastia. In Volnovakha, the attack is still so intense that dead bodies lie uncollected, says local MP Dmytro Lubinets. Ukrainians still brave enough to run rescue missions are going back only for the living.

Thousands of them are trapped in basements, with dwindling supplies of food and water, sheltering from an apparently senseless attack on a town Lubinets says has no military defenders in its centre. The line of contact is 20km away, he says.

"It never stops, every five minutes there is a mortar landing or artillery shells, some buildings have been hit by multiple rocket systems,” he said by phone.

“In the city there is not any building which has not suffered from direct or collateral damage. So some buildings have major destruction, some minor destruction, some are completely destroyed to the ground.”

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Fuel in the Netherlands. €/Euro 2,30 per liter.
I paid 3.85 per gallon, yesterday. Over $80.00 to fill up.

We must restart the US Pipeline. Some folks don't be able to work with the high cost of fuel. Moo....
$5.07 per gallon in So Cal.

This will have a major impact on Americans, especially low income workers, rural workers, farmers, etc. Cost of product will increase, most all products are "transported", requiring fuel.

Gotta open the pipeline, we just can't take this on top of Covid. It will push some over the edge, I'm mighty afraid.

All my opinion....
 
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The SWIFT currency restrictions will not take effect until March 12

The airline lease cancellations will not take place until about March 28.

How is Ukraine going to hold out for that length of time without EU military support?

That's certainly enough time for Russia to prepare. Moo...
 
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I was listening to the BBC’s Ukrainecast podcast earlier and one of the reporters said that the first time he went to Lviv in the early 2000s, he was told that he might conceivably meet an old woman who was born in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, went to school in Poland, got married in the Third Reich, ended her working life in the Soviet Union and draws her pension in independent Ukraine - and has never left the city. This was to give him a sense of the tides of history and the countries and empires that have fought over this corner of the world down through the years.
 
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The highest I saw today was €/Euro 1.79 a liter in Latvia. I bought some last week for 1.62 - so going up!



there is about 4 liters in a gallon - so I paid in gallons - $7.16 - and Bit of Hope paid - 9.20

gas here (Canada) skyrocketed overnight
lineups at the pumps
 
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I paid 3.85 per gallon, yesterday. Over $80.00 to fill up.

We must restart the US Pipeline. Some folks don't be able to work with the high cost of fuel. Moo....


This will have a major impact on Americans, especially low income workers, rural workers, farmers, etc. Cost of profits will increase, most all products are "transported", requiring fuel.

Gotta open the pipeline, we just can't take this on top of Covid. It will push some over the edge, I'm mighty afraid.

All my opinion....

I noticed that gas jumped .50 a gallon this week alone. Glad I filled up last Friday. Crazy.

If people have had problems because of the increase in the price of food, due to Covid/Supply Chain/Inflation, they are in for an unpleasant experience, when the cost of goods jumps due to increased cost of oil/ transportation.
 
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On CNN, they were interviewing a woman about half an hour ago discussing this problem. I thought she was Zelensky's wife, but I'm not certain. She was very blunt about the need for the US and other western allies to enforce real sanctions against Russia. She said there are many "loopholes" in the sanctions and this appears to be one. The implication from the US was that the no-fly zone sanction was just that - no aircraft with only a small loophole for emergency purposes.

As the woman CNN interviewed stated, these sanctions are supposed to be economic sanctions and they need to be tough to make Putin back down. She listed many of the loopholes and named names of companies, banks, etc. that need to participate but aren't. She said the sanctions will harm Putin in the long run, but don't have much immediate affect.

She listed 3 or 4 US defense contractors, including Grumman, who have facilities IN RUSSIA who need to shut those facilities down and leave.

She listed several big banks like JP Morgan, Credit Suisse and others who need to shut down their offices and leave.

She said the sanctions against Russian oligarchs need to apply to all of them, not just a few.

She also said the US and others need to stop buying Russian oil and gas.

She said Putin is in this for the long game and these sanctions as they are now are ineffective. The sanctions need to have a "shock and awe" affect (my terminology) on Putin in order to stop him.

I'm pretty sure it was the Ukraine president's wife. She's blonde, middle age and was interviewed in a lovely white room with shelves in the background. I've looked all over CNN's web site and YouTube page and can't find the interview. I have a feeling this woman was saying things that CNN's reporter didn't want to hear.

I will keep looking. If anyone else finds the video of the interview, please share. TIA

ETA: Here's another example of weak response to sanctions:

Microsoft halts sales and services in Russia

Microsoft announces they will suspend new sales of products in Russia. What about servicing existing contracts, etc? Microsoft and other US businesses in Russia need to close their offices there and leave. This reminds me of WWII, when so many US companies wanted to keep doing business with Hitler and the Nazis.

Totally agree !!! We are funding the war.

OIL is OIL Whether it comes from Russia or our US pipeline, it's still OIL, it has the same environmental impact. The US has enough oil to meet demand. We export to foreign countries and import for foreign countries. Kinda crazy!!!

Somebody please, explain this to me.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

In 2020, the United States imported about 7.86 million barrels per day (MMb/d) of petroleum from about 80 countries.

The top five destination countries of U.S. total gross petroleum exports, export volume, and share of total petroleum exports in 2020 were:

  • Mexico—1.04 MMb/d—12%
  • Canada—0.93 MMb/d—11%
  • China—0.72 MMb/d—8%
  • Japan—0.52 MMb/d—6%
  • India—0.47 MMb/d—6%
 
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$5.07 per gallon in So Cal.
I paid 3.19 for regular and the price of super was 3.69, but it was sold out. I have to add though, our gas had gone up before the invasion. This is in E. Texas.
 
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The highest I saw today was €/Euro 1.79 a liter in Latvia. I bought some last week for 1.62 - so going up!



there is about 4 liters in a gallon - so I paid in gallons - $7.16 - and Bit of Hope paid - 9.20

OMG!! I'm filling up 10 gallon gas containers tomorrow.
 
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Russian forces are approaching Ukraine's second-largest nuclear facility, US ambassador to the UN says

From CNN's Masha Angelova and Hira Humayun

Russian forces are approaching Ukraine’s second-largest nuclear facility, US Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield said at the UN on Friday.

“Russian forces are now 20 miles, and closing, from Ukraine’s second-largest nuclear facility,” she said without naming the plant.
According to Energoatom, the overseeing body of Ukraine’s nuclear power plants, Ukraine’s second-largest nuclear facility — in terms of power generation capacity — is Yuzhnoukrainsk Nuclear Power Station in the Mykolaiv Oblast, in southern Ukraine.

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ETA: Map of Nuclear Plant Locations
(Source: Map shows Ukraine's 15 active nuclear reactors, including the 6-reactor complex just captured by Russia)
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Not sure if it was posted already

In a televised speech today, Vladimir Putin called on Russia's neighbors not to escalate the situation in Europe, reports the news agency Reuters.

- We have no evil intentions when it comes to our neighbors. I want to advise them not to escalate the situation, and not to impose any new restrictions, Putin said when he participated in the link during the inauguration of a new ferry.

The president further said that he sees no reason for deteriorating relations, and that Russia's actions should be seen as a response to the actions of other countries.



They don’t have evil intentions..right. He apparently forgot that Ukraine it’s their neighbour too. Someone might wanna remind him that.

Putin varnar grannländerna: Trappa inte upp situationen

He can spin that lie but nobody's buying. Putin's Poo Poo. Moo...
 
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The Kyiv Independent@KyivIndependent·12m⚡️US Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield said on March 4 at the UN that Russian forces are now 20 miles, and closing, from Ukraine’s second largest nuclear facility – the Yuzhnoukrainsk Nuclear Power Station in southern Ukraine’s Mykolaiv Oblast.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent
 
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