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This is what I wonder. Are we sure? There surely is a group supporting him, probably a couple of old “grey cardinals”. How do we know that they are different?
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This is what I wonder. Are we sure? There surely is a group supporting him, probably a couple of old “grey cardinals”. How do we know that they are different?
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Russia-Ukraine war latest: Zelenskiy calls on west to supply planes, tanks; Biden says ‘butcher’ Putin cannot remain in power – live | World news | The Guardian
4h ago 20:21
Zelenskiy calls on US and Europe to supply planes and tanks
In his nightly address to the Ukrainian people and the world, Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, has called on the US and Europe to supply more planes, tanks, anti-missiles defences and anti-ship weaponry, arguing that Europe’s own security was at stake.
[...]
Referring to those who are defending the besieged port city of Mariupol, he continued:
I wish at least a percentage of their courage to those who have been thinking for 31 days how to transfer a dozen or two of planes or tanks ...
Ukraine cannot shoot down Russian missiles using shotguns, machine guns, which are too much in supplies.
And it is impossible to unblock Mariupol without a sufficient number of tanks, other armored vehicles and, of course, aircraft. All defenders of Ukraine know that. All defenders of Mariupol know that. Thousands of people know that - citizens, civilians who are dying there in the blockade.
The United States knows that. All European politicians know. We told everyone. And this should be known as soon as possible by as many people on Earth as possible. So that everyone understands who and why was simply afraid to prevent this tragedy. Afraid to simply make a decision.”
4h ago 20:21
Zelenskiy calls on US and Europe to supply planes and tanks
In his nightly address to the Ukrainian people and the world, Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, has called on the US and Europe to supply more planes, tanks, anti-missiles defences and anti-ship weaponry, arguing that Europe’s own security was at stake.
[...]
Referring to those who are defending the besieged port city of Mariupol, he continued:
I wish at least a percentage of their courage to those who have been thinking for 31 days how to transfer a dozen or two of planes or tanks ...
Ukraine cannot shoot down Russian missiles using shotguns, machine guns, which are too much in supplies.
And it is impossible to unblock Mariupol without a sufficient number of tanks, other armored vehicles and, of course, aircraft. All defenders of Ukraine know that. All defenders of Mariupol know that. Thousands of people know that - citizens, civilians who are dying there in the blockade.
The United States knows that. All European politicians know. We told everyone. And this should be known as soon as possible by as many people on Earth as possible. So that everyone understands who and why was simply afraid to prevent this tragedy. Afraid to simply make a decision.”
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Russia-Ukraine war latest: Zelenskiy calls on west to supply planes, tanks; Biden says ‘butcher’ Putin cannot remain in power – live | World news | The Guardian
3h ago 21:52
Here’s a bit more from Ukrainian president Zelenskiy’s speech earlier, in which he warned Russia its invasion was only working to “derussify” Ukraine, where Russian is widely spoken.
By the way, we talked today with our military in Mariupol, with our heroes who defend this city, in Russian,” said the president, himself a native Russian speaker.
“Because there is no language problem in Ukraine and there never was.
But now you, the Russian occupiers, are creating this problem. You are doing everything to make our people stop speaking Russian themselves. Because the Russian language will be associated with you. Only with you.
With these explosions and killings. With your crimes. You are deporting our people. You are bullying our teachers, forcing them to repeat everything after your propagandists. You are taking our mayors and Ukrainian activists hostage. You are placing billboards in the occupied territories with appeals (they appeared today) not to be afraid to speak Russian.
Just think about what it means. Where Russian has always been a part of everyday life, like Ukrainian, in the east of our state, and where you are turning peaceful cities into ruins today.
Russia itself is doing everything to ensure that de-russification takes place on the territory of our state. You are doing it. In one generation. And forever. This is another manifestation of your suicide policy.”
3h ago 21:52
Here’s a bit more from Ukrainian president Zelenskiy’s speech earlier, in which he warned Russia its invasion was only working to “derussify” Ukraine, where Russian is widely spoken.
By the way, we talked today with our military in Mariupol, with our heroes who defend this city, in Russian,” said the president, himself a native Russian speaker.
“Because there is no language problem in Ukraine and there never was.
But now you, the Russian occupiers, are creating this problem. You are doing everything to make our people stop speaking Russian themselves. Because the Russian language will be associated with you. Only with you.
With these explosions and killings. With your crimes. You are deporting our people. You are bullying our teachers, forcing them to repeat everything after your propagandists. You are taking our mayors and Ukrainian activists hostage. You are placing billboards in the occupied territories with appeals (they appeared today) not to be afraid to speak Russian.
Just think about what it means. Where Russian has always been a part of everyday life, like Ukrainian, in the east of our state, and where you are turning peaceful cities into ruins today.
Russia itself is doing everything to ensure that de-russification takes place on the territory of our state. You are doing it. In one generation. And forever. This is another manifestation of your suicide policy.”
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This article from Medusa.io is in Russian, but I shall translate it.
https://meduza.io/feature/2022/03/26/otkazyvatsya-ubivat-lyudey-ne-prestuplenie
“To refuse killing people is not a crime”.
Twelve fighters of OMON (special purpose police units) refused to be sent to Ukraine and were fired. Now they took matters to court. The motivation? “It is not a war there, not an excessive situation, merely a “special operation”, as we were told” (in Russia one can’t call Ukraine invasion “a war”, it is just a “special operation”. So these young men refused to go, citing that the special operation gave them the choice).
“On March 24, Pavel Chikov, a lawyer for the international human rights group Agora, said that 12 riot policemen of the Russian Guard from Krasnodar, who were on exercises in Crimea, refused to follow the commander’s order and did not go to war in Ukraine. After that, the National Guard was fired - however, they decided to challenge this decision and demand to reinstate them in the service through the courts. Their interests are represented by Krasnodar lawyer Mikhail Benyash. Meduza spoke to him about the case and its possible consequences.”
“When and under what conditions were your clients fired? - On February 25, my clients were going to be sent to the territory of Ukraine, but they refused to leave the territory of Crimea. The check has begun. On March 1, an order was received to terminate the contract due to non-fulfillment of the order. They [the National Guard] thought about it and decided to reinstate through court. In general, there are more laid-offs, but so far 12 people have contacted us. Do they have legal grounds to get reinstated? How obligatory for them to participate in the "special operation"?
If there was an armed conflict, an emergency or a martial law was introduced, terms of the contract could be changed without their consent for six months. But we don’t have an armed conflict or a war there at all, but simply a “special operation”. The law says nothing about it. You can go there, but only if you agree.”
- What a beauty.
- The authorities themselves started - by not calling it armed conflict. Which war you have chosen, that one you’ll receive. This means that consent is required from everyone who goes there, and it is not worth threatening him. And if this is still an armed conflict, question number two immediately arises: who started it? Oops. And no one wants to answer this question, because there is a completely different qualification of actions - and not [actions] of a warrior. Therefore, it will not be recognized as a developing armed conflict.
- What will put pressure on the refuseniks later?
- Publicity put more pressure on them. People have been wearing masks and helmets all their lives, and now they have gotten names and surnames. It is very traumatic for them. Despite the fact that they have done an act approved by part of society, another part verbally poisons them.
- That is, if you have cases of reinstatement, this may be a precedent, after which contract soldiers can massively refuse to participate in "special operations"?
“They are already refusing en masse. They just feared that it was unexpected. And now they will know that there are legal grounds for this.”
https://meduza.io/feature/2022/03/26/otkazyvatsya-ubivat-lyudey-ne-prestuplenie
“To refuse killing people is not a crime”.
Twelve fighters of OMON (special purpose police units) refused to be sent to Ukraine and were fired. Now they took matters to court. The motivation? “It is not a war there, not an excessive situation, merely a “special operation”, as we were told” (in Russia one can’t call Ukraine invasion “a war”, it is just a “special operation”. So these young men refused to go, citing that the special operation gave them the choice).
“On March 24, Pavel Chikov, a lawyer for the international human rights group Agora, said that 12 riot policemen of the Russian Guard from Krasnodar, who were on exercises in Crimea, refused to follow the commander’s order and did not go to war in Ukraine. After that, the National Guard was fired - however, they decided to challenge this decision and demand to reinstate them in the service through the courts. Their interests are represented by Krasnodar lawyer Mikhail Benyash. Meduza spoke to him about the case and its possible consequences.”
“When and under what conditions were your clients fired? - On February 25, my clients were going to be sent to the territory of Ukraine, but they refused to leave the territory of Crimea. The check has begun. On March 1, an order was received to terminate the contract due to non-fulfillment of the order. They [the National Guard] thought about it and decided to reinstate through court. In general, there are more laid-offs, but so far 12 people have contacted us. Do they have legal grounds to get reinstated? How obligatory for them to participate in the "special operation"?
If there was an armed conflict, an emergency or a martial law was introduced, terms of the contract could be changed without their consent for six months. But we don’t have an armed conflict or a war there at all, but simply a “special operation”. The law says nothing about it. You can go there, but only if you agree.”
- What a beauty.
- The authorities themselves started - by not calling it armed conflict. Which war you have chosen, that one you’ll receive. This means that consent is required from everyone who goes there, and it is not worth threatening him. And if this is still an armed conflict, question number two immediately arises: who started it? Oops. And no one wants to answer this question, because there is a completely different qualification of actions - and not [actions] of a warrior. Therefore, it will not be recognized as a developing armed conflict.
- What will put pressure on the refuseniks later?
- Publicity put more pressure on them. People have been wearing masks and helmets all their lives, and now they have gotten names and surnames. It is very traumatic for them. Despite the fact that they have done an act approved by part of society, another part verbally poisons them.
- That is, if you have cases of reinstatement, this may be a precedent, after which contract soldiers can massively refuse to participate in "special operations"?
“They are already refusing en masse. They just feared that it was unexpected. And now they will know that there are legal grounds for this.”
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Why Opposing Vladimir Putin Could Be Deadly | The Man Putin Couldn't Kill | BBC Select - YouTube
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Either one being fired upon civilians is monstrous...IMO
‘White Phosphorus’ Claimed To Be Used In Ukraine May Really Be Russian Napalm Weapon
White phosphorus...
..."However, it is also an effective antipersonnel weapon: it sticks to the skin and keeps burning. As Human Rights Watch notes, it is notorious for the depth and severity of the burns it causes and is also toxic, so victims may die of organ failure even if they survive their burns."...
Thermite Incendiary Submunitions...
..."This incendiary rocket was specifically designed as an antipersonnel weapon."...
..."The magnesium burns briefly with a bright white light, the fire mixture produces a longer-lasting flame, and typically sticks to the target while burning. Attempting to scrape the mix off just spreads it, and it is not extinguished by water."...
..."this isn't White Phosphorus, these are thermite incendiary submunitions which are in fact even worse. we've seen similar footage of these unguided 9M22S incendiary Grad rockets in use by the Russians in Syria countless times before"...
..."Each 140-pound rocket covers about 250 feet by 250 feet with flaming projectiles, so a whole 40-rocket barrage will hit a large area."...
..."The use of the weapon in the current invasion no great surprise, as it had previously been identified in Eastern Ukraine in 2014."..."and Syria"...
..."The use of such weapons in cities is another indication of Russia’s willingness to ratchet up the levels of destruction, destroying apartment blocks and causing mass casualties. This serves no military purpose, but aims to demoralize the civilian population and undermine their will to fight. Bombarding cities cannot win the war, but at present it seems to be the only tactic the Russians have left."
‘White Phosphorus’ Claimed To Be Used In Ukraine May Really Be Russian Napalm Weapon
‘White Phosphorus’ Claimed To Be Used In Ukraine May Really Be Russian Napalm Weapon
White phosphorus...
..."However, it is also an effective antipersonnel weapon: it sticks to the skin and keeps burning. As Human Rights Watch notes, it is notorious for the depth and severity of the burns it causes and is also toxic, so victims may die of organ failure even if they survive their burns."...
Thermite Incendiary Submunitions...
..."This incendiary rocket was specifically designed as an antipersonnel weapon."...
..."The magnesium burns briefly with a bright white light, the fire mixture produces a longer-lasting flame, and typically sticks to the target while burning. Attempting to scrape the mix off just spreads it, and it is not extinguished by water."...
..."this isn't White Phosphorus, these are thermite incendiary submunitions which are in fact even worse. we've seen similar footage of these unguided 9M22S incendiary Grad rockets in use by the Russians in Syria countless times before"...
..."Each 140-pound rocket covers about 250 feet by 250 feet with flaming projectiles, so a whole 40-rocket barrage will hit a large area."...
..."The use of the weapon in the current invasion no great surprise, as it had previously been identified in Eastern Ukraine in 2014."..."and Syria"...
..."The use of such weapons in cities is another indication of Russia’s willingness to ratchet up the levels of destruction, destroying apartment blocks and causing mass casualties. This serves no military purpose, but aims to demoralize the civilian population and undermine their will to fight. Bombarding cities cannot win the war, but at present it seems to be the only tactic the Russians have left."
‘White Phosphorus’ Claimed To Be Used In Ukraine May Really Be Russian Napalm Weapon
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I agree. It was essential that the White House clarify that statement because it flirted with crossing a line.
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I get that sentiment, but Georgia and Moldova do not have large populations that are trying to secede from those nations.
Here in the US, it's easy for me to call for others to sacrifice their lives since my life is still safe.
But, I have to consider the lives of Ukrainians. And, in my opinion, they would be well served by Zelensky negotiating an agreement with Putin to give up the Donbas and not block water to Crimea in exchange for an assurance of peace.
I don't really think it's necessary to promise that Ukraine will not join NATO, because NATO has made it clear they are not welcome.
I do wish Zelensky would quit trying to draw other nations into this war. I get it that he wants support--and, who knows? In his position, I might do the same thing--but, I think it's dangerous to the world at large.
I'm seeing a lot of brinkmanship, and I'm hoping cooler heads continue to prevail.
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I agree with you. It's awful and it's heartbreaking to watch. I posted upthread the American people have given 2 billion dollars towards the war in Ukraine. That's just the US.
The difference in this war, in my opinion, is now it's being fought in the media. So many other wars going on right now across the globe that don't have this kind of attention.
Sadly, this is nothing new in Ukraine. It's an escalation.
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The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 6 hrs ago
Rescuers of the State Emergency Service have put out the fire that occurred at one of the industrial facilities in Lviv, a regional capital in western Ukraine, following a missile attack on March 26. It took more than 14 hours to extinguish the fire. Photos: State Emergency Service
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The Interior Ministry of #Ukraine reports that the #Russian military used prohibited cluster munition container of the type "Tornado-S" on the residential sector of #Krasnogorovka, #Donetsk region.
The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 5 hrs ago
These are the indicative estimates of Russia’s combat losses as of March 27, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
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#NATO's Patriot air defense systems are already in #Slovakia. This was announced by #Slovak Prime Minister Eduard Heger. Earlier, Slovakia tentatively agreed to provide #Ukraine with one S-300 system for protection against #Russian air strikes.
The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
UK Defense Ministry: Russian forces focus on trying to encircle Ukraine's troops in Donbas. Russian troops are attempting to advance from Kharkiv in the north and Mariupol in the south, the ministry said on March 27.
The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 4 hrs ago
Luhansk Oblast may be annexed by Russia. Leonid Pasichnyk, the head of Russia’s proxies in the region, said on March 27 that a referendum on the annexation may be held soon.
NEXTA on Twitter
At the #Chernobyl nuclear power plant, the personnel who were held hostage by the #Russian army from the first day of the war were partially replaced
The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 1 hr ago
Military Intelligence: Russia wants to split Ukraine into two. According to Kyrylo Budanov, head of Defense Ministry’s Intelligence Directorate, Russia will try a “Korean scenario” by creating a separate political entity in the Russian-occupied regions.
The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
Energy Ministry: Russia must be removed from IAEA for 'nuclear terrorism.' Ukraine is working to remove Russia from the International Atomic Energy Agency. Russia has occupied two Ukrainian nuclear power plants – in Chornobyl and Zaporizhzhia Oblast.
Rescuers of the State Emergency Service have put out the fire that occurred at one of the industrial facilities in Lviv, a regional capital in western Ukraine, following a missile attack on March 26. It took more than 14 hours to extinguish the fire. Photos: State Emergency Service
NEXTA on Twitter
The Interior Ministry of #Ukraine reports that the #Russian military used prohibited cluster munition container of the type "Tornado-S" on the residential sector of #Krasnogorovka, #Donetsk region.
The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 5 hrs ago
These are the indicative estimates of Russia’s combat losses as of March 27, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
NEXTA on Twitter
#NATO's Patriot air defense systems are already in #Slovakia. This was announced by #Slovak Prime Minister Eduard Heger. Earlier, Slovakia tentatively agreed to provide #Ukraine with one S-300 system for protection against #Russian air strikes.
The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
UK Defense Ministry: Russian forces focus on trying to encircle Ukraine's troops in Donbas. Russian troops are attempting to advance from Kharkiv in the north and Mariupol in the south, the ministry said on March 27.
The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 4 hrs ago
Luhansk Oblast may be annexed by Russia. Leonid Pasichnyk, the head of Russia’s proxies in the region, said on March 27 that a referendum on the annexation may be held soon.
NEXTA on Twitter
At the #Chernobyl nuclear power plant, the personnel who were held hostage by the #Russian army from the first day of the war were partially replaced
The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 1 hr ago
Military Intelligence: Russia wants to split Ukraine into two. According to Kyrylo Budanov, head of Defense Ministry’s Intelligence Directorate, Russia will try a “Korean scenario” by creating a separate political entity in the Russian-occupied regions.
The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
Energy Ministry: Russia must be removed from IAEA for 'nuclear terrorism.' Ukraine is working to remove Russia from the International Atomic Energy Agency. Russia has occupied two Ukrainian nuclear power plants – in Chornobyl and Zaporizhzhia Oblast.
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Current map of military actions according to the Ministry of Defense of Great #Britain
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The streets of #Mariupol turned into a cemetery Because of the incessant bombing of the city, people simply cannot bury their relatives in cemeteries. Many dead bodies are still buried under the rubble of destroyed buildings.
(more photos at link)
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#Russian troops entered the house of boxer Alexander Usik in #Vorzel near #Kyiv and occupied it This was announced on Instagram by the wife of the world champion Kateryna Usyk.
Euromaidan Press on Twitter - 4 hrs ago
Russian assault division commander Vladimir Krivolapov was killed in battle for Mariupol He commanded the assault division of Russia's Black Sea Fleet's 810th Guards Marine Brigade, His death was confirmed by occupation "governor" of Sevastopol Razvozhaev https://t.me/razvozhaev/148
Euromaidan Press on Twitter
Ukrainian military women on Lviv railway station before departing to the frontline. PHOTO CREDIT: Shotam
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Euromaidan Press on Twitter - 2 hrs ago
Leader of the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic (LNR) Leonid Pasechnik declared the plans to hold a referendum on LNR's accession to Russia. Telegram: Contact @rian_ru
Euromaidan Press on Twitter - 1 hr ago
Russian invaders killed Larysa Osypenko, the head of the kindergarten, in #Irpin, Irpin residents wrote in Mistoinform local Facebook group. https://facebook.com/groups/mistoinform/posts/1589961411370887/
Euromaidan Press on Twitter
Russo-Ukrainian war, day 32: Russian troops attempt to encircle Kyiv despite announcements they will focus on Donbas; however, frontline remains static. Ukraine launches effective counter-defense operations as government continues to call for heavy weapons Russo-Ukrainian War, day 32: Biden supports Ukraine in speech in Warsaw, Lviv suffers Russian rocket strikes | Euromaidan Press
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Ukrainian Forces liberated Husarivka in Kharkiv Obl, limiting Russian opportunities to reach Donbas from the rear. Генеральний штаб ЗСУ / General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine | Facebook
Reportedly, a huge Russian group of 2 BTGs was repelled from Husarivka & damaged SPRAVDI Photo Shared by volunteer Roman Dodik
(more photos at link)
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In #Kherson, people went to a rally against the #Russian occupation. They were dispersed with smoke grenades.
Current map of military actions according to the Ministry of Defense of Great #Britain
NEXTA on Twitter
The streets of #Mariupol turned into a cemetery Because of the incessant bombing of the city, people simply cannot bury their relatives in cemeteries. Many dead bodies are still buried under the rubble of destroyed buildings.
(more photos at link)
NEXTA on Twitter
#Russian troops entered the house of boxer Alexander Usik in #Vorzel near #Kyiv and occupied it This was announced on Instagram by the wife of the world champion Kateryna Usyk.
Euromaidan Press on Twitter - 4 hrs ago
Russian assault division commander Vladimir Krivolapov was killed in battle for Mariupol He commanded the assault division of Russia's Black Sea Fleet's 810th Guards Marine Brigade, His death was confirmed by occupation "governor" of Sevastopol Razvozhaev https://t.me/razvozhaev/148
Euromaidan Press on Twitter
Ukrainian military women on Lviv railway station before departing to the frontline. PHOTO CREDIT: Shotam
(more photos at link)
Euromaidan Press on Twitter - 2 hrs ago
Leader of the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic (LNR) Leonid Pasechnik declared the plans to hold a referendum on LNR's accession to Russia. Telegram: Contact @rian_ru
Euromaidan Press on Twitter - 1 hr ago
Russian invaders killed Larysa Osypenko, the head of the kindergarten, in #Irpin, Irpin residents wrote in Mistoinform local Facebook group. https://facebook.com/groups/mistoinform/posts/1589961411370887/
Euromaidan Press on Twitter
Russo-Ukrainian war, day 32: Russian troops attempt to encircle Kyiv despite announcements they will focus on Donbas; however, frontline remains static. Ukraine launches effective counter-defense operations as government continues to call for heavy weapons Russo-Ukrainian War, day 32: Biden supports Ukraine in speech in Warsaw, Lviv suffers Russian rocket strikes | Euromaidan Press
Euromaidan Press on Twitter
Ukrainian Forces liberated Husarivka in Kharkiv Obl, limiting Russian opportunities to reach Donbas from the rear. Генеральний штаб ЗСУ / General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine | Facebook
Reportedly, a huge Russian group of 2 BTGs was repelled from Husarivka & damaged SPRAVDI Photo Shared by volunteer Roman Dodik
(more photos at link)
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In #Kherson, people went to a rally against the #Russian occupation. They were dispersed with smoke grenades.
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March 27 2022
''Ukrainian forces have been holding Russia back from taking The Black Sea. We embed in the south of Ukraine, to see what the impact is for those living there''
March 27 2022
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''Ukrainian forces have been holding Russia back from taking The Black Sea. We embed in the south of Ukraine, to see what the impact is for those living there''
''What untruths is Russia spreading about Nazis in Ukraine? - BBC News''
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It makes me wonder if their is a secret military operation being puttin’ forth to take someone out. Ordinarily I would not wish this on anyone but desperate times call for desperate measures!
LVIV — The next round of face to face talks between Ukraine and Russia will take place in Turkey on March 28-30, Ukrainian negotiator David Arakhamia said on social media on Sunday.
Next round of Ukraine-Russia talks will take place in Turkey, Ukrainian negotiator says | National Post
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Snipped by me...
"...negotiating an agreement with Putin to give up the Donbas and not block water to Crimea in exchange for an assurance of peace."
Dombas region has basically been under Russian control since 2014. Didn't Russia just conscripted peoples from there to send to front lines? It's the land bridge (Mariupol) from Dombas to Crimea that's been Putin's objective since he realized he couldn't roll over the rest of Ukraine. IMO So he decided to obliterate all the residents and their homes, leaving nothing to come back to.
What of Mariupol? What of it's abducted peoples? Will they be allowed to return to THEIR city? Or does Russia say Mariupol is ours now?
Does Russia get to keep them, speak for them and say they don't want to go back to Ukraine and not even offer a verified account for where they are to Ukraine?
I shutter to think what has really happened to those families, they cannot be forgotten. They are prisoners of war.
I do agree that water should not be blocked from flowing to Crimea. People need to have access to water.
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Is the west afraid that the supplied planes will be mistaken for NATO countries and provoke the monster?
1.) Monster is already provoked and laying waste to cities, abducting citizens of Ukraine...CHILDREN!
2.) Paint the dang planes bright yellow and blue! (Yes I'm being facetious, sort of) Ukraine needs planes, give them planes!
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well…maybe that prevented what is happening now, Russia becoming supplier of gas, oil and raw materials to Asian countries. One never knows.
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How U.S. Special Forces Can Fight Putin Without Starting World War III (thedailybeast.com)
''According to former U.S. Army Ranger Tom Amenta, there are advantages to having on-site, operational intelligence gathering in Ukraine that can’t be equaled by remote technologies like satellite imagery or radio signal interceptions.''
''When it comes to gathering HUMINT, one option for elite U.S. forces is the use of Special Operation Groups (SOGs). Amenta described the typical SOG as a small, covert, reconnaissance task force, often made up of intelligence agents from the NSA or CIA, paired with Special Forces soldiers like Green Berets or Delta Force commandos. In order to avoid detection, the SOGs are able to work undercover within local populations.''
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Could Vladimir Putin be ousted over his Ukraine invasion? (theconversation.com)
''The defection of powerful elites, rather than civil dissent, is almost always necessary to remove an authoritarian regime. The split is essentially between “hardliners” who will defend the regime by any means, and “softliners” who have their doubts and want reform.
Reluctant to give up power
Research also shows that in personalist autocracies like Russia’s — regimes in which nearly all power lies in the hands of a single person — dictators rarely relinquish power through negotiation.
This is because such leaders are typically determined to cling to power, and only a small and tightly controlled circle of people have any influence on them.
By all accounts in Putin’s case, the pandemic has exacerbated this, and his circle is much smaller and more hardline authoritarian than it used to be.''
''The military in Russia has historically been resistant to launching coups — largely due to Communist party oversight in the U.S.S.R. and a continuation of these habits in the post-Soviet era, along with a heavy dose of infiltration by the security services.''
''The former KGB
Finally, state security services might provide the most likely source of an insider coup. Putin is a creature of these agencies, but tensions are surfacing.
Putin recently placed the head of the Federal Security Bureau’s (responsible for external intelligence) under house arrest due to bad intelligence about prospects for a quick and successful victory in Ukraine.
An elite “palace coup” is possible, particularly if several of these groups join forces to forcibly remove Putin or persuade him to step down.
These processes would take time to develop, and they may be unlikely since major cracks have not yet emerged. But if there is no coup, Russia’s path will unfortunately involve even more severe repression of its population and continuing devastation in Ukraine.''
March 20 2022 rbbm
Group of Russian elite plans to assassinate Putin by poison, claims Ukraine intelligence : The Tribune India
''The goal of this group is to remove Putin from power as soon as possible and restore economic ties with the West, destroyed by the war in Ukraine.
"A part of Russia's political elite sees Federal Security Service Director Alexander Bortnikov as Putin's successor. It is Bortnikov who has recently fallen out of favour with the Russian dictator. The official reason for the FSS leader's downfall is fatal miscalculations in the war against Ukraine", Ukraine intelligence has said, Ukrayinska Pravda reported.''
''It is known that Bortnikov and some other influential members of the Russian elite are considering various options for removing Putin from power. In particular, poisoning, sudden illness, or other "accident" is not excluded, the intelligence said.''
NATO does not want to make any move that could trigger WWIII and escalate to the use of nuclear weapons. The decision to supply planes to Ukraine could be seen as crossing the line between defensive and offensive actions on NATO's part, hence the reluctance of NATO to go down that path.
There has been some talk of giving Ukraine parts of the fighter jet planes so that they could repair their own planes, but I don't know if that decison has been made yet, and which NATO country would supply the parts.
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