Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #8

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Thanks for all of your extremely diligent work in updating this thread @PommyMommy . I think that it is our duty to bear witness to what is unfolding in Ukraine. JMO.
 
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MAR 29, 2022
Ukrainian captivity better than Russian army
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Thanks for all of your extremely diligent work in updating this thread @PommyMommy . I think that it is our duty to bear witness to what is unfolding in Ukraine. JMO.
Thank you for your kindness, I really appreciate it. I feel the same way, as tough as it is to follow this unspeakable horror, we must bear witness for both the living and the dead.

I am grateful to all the outstanding contributors in this thread and I appreciate you more than you know; the amount of news here is simply overwhelming. I'm sorry for the walls of tweets but there is just so much... :eek: MOO
 
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In all the very shocking things that came by...this really, really shocked me....I've almost no words for it......I wonder what God thinks about this, because he is supposed to represent love and forgiveness. He will be waiting for you....scum. And you call yourself a believer, a man of God.....shame on you! May you burn in hell when the time comes. Sorry....I feel so very emotional.....I actually have to cry....because I'm so outraged.

Moscow Patriarchate to troops: "Wipe the Ukrainian nation off the face of the earth" | Euromaidan Press


Broadside produced by the Bryansk metropolitanate of the Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate that has been distributed to Russian soldiers there (Credit: social media)

Translation: “Russian Orthodox Church Moscow Patriarchate Bryansk Metropolitanate
You are a Russian Warrior.
Your duty is to defend the Fatherland from Ukrainian nationalists.
Your task is to wipe the Ukrainian nation off the face of the earth.
Your enemy is an ideology causing sinful damage to human soul.

The Department for relations with the military and the police of the Bryansk Eparchy, Priest Mikhail Ageshin.”
 
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@olliecarroll

Head of Donetsk regional administration Pavlo Kyrylenko says Kramatorsk station was actually hit by Iskander ballistic missile with cluster munitions. “There were thousands in station at the time of attack — this was a gathering point for evacuation to safer parts of Ukraine.”

@ChristopherJM

Zelensky commented on the Kramatorsk attack on Telegram: “Lacking the strength and courage to stand up to us on the battlefield, [Russian forces] are cynically destroying the civilian population. This is an evil that has no limits. And if it is not punished, it will never stop.

EU High Rep for Foreign Affairs and P of @EU_Commission
condemns Russian attack on Kramatorsk train station, as he himself is on a train to Kyiv in a big gesture of support for Ukraine.

This video as well as photos circulating show the words “for the children” scrawled on the Tochka-U rocket fired by Russian forces on Kramatorsk today. Kremlin propaganda has falsely claimed Ukraine is cynically attacking children. Reality: Russia is.

https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1512367311923130369?s=20&t=QMTNeAFHDxyAcHS83V1JyQ


At least 27 killed, 30 injured in missile strike on Kramatorsk railway station, regional spokesperson says
 
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Just released - Pink Floyd
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Hey Hey Rise Up', released in support of the people of Ukraine, sees David Gilmour and Nick Mason joined by long time Pink Floyd bass player Guy Pratt and Nitin Sawhney on keyboards, all accompanying an extraordinary vocal by Andriy Khlyvnyuk of Ukrainian band Boombox. All proceeds go to Ukrainian Humanitarian Relief.
(BBM)

I'm so angry right now...I will listen to it later. Love Pink Floyd.
 
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'Meer dan 30 doden bij aanval treinstation' • Rusland ontkent schuld, wijst naar Oekraïne

'More than 30 dead in train station attack' • Russia denies guilt, points to Ukraine



34 MINUTES AGO
Russia denies guilt, points to Ukraine
  • Russia denies carrying out an attack on a train station, Russia's defense ministry said. According to the Russians, a missile used only by the Ukrainian army was used.

    A similar missile was said to have been used in a March Ukrainian attack on the center of Donetsk that killed 17 people. The Ministry of Defense also says that it had not selected any targets in Kramatorsk today.

    A leader of pro-Russian separatists in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic says the rocket attack on the Kramatorsk station is a "provocation" by Ukraine, Russia's state news agency TASS reported.
Very graphic.....may they rest in peace. Укрзалізниця
 
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'Meer dan 30 doden bij aanval treinstation' • Rusland ontkent schuld, wijst naar Oekraïne

'More than 30 dead in train station attack' • Russia denies guilt, points to Ukraine

11 HOURS AGO
Zelensky: situation in Borodyanka even worse than in Butcha
Ukrainian President Zelensky says the situation in Borodyanka is "much worse" than in Butya. More than 300 dead civilians were found in the latter city this weekend. At least 50 of them are believed to have been executed by Russian troops withdrawing from the region around the capital Kiev.

Similar sounds come from Borodjanka, 25 kilometers northwest of Butsha. "It's much worse there," Zelensky said in a new video message. "There are more victims of the Russian occupiers." Zelensky showed no further evidence for his statement.

According to Moscow, the dead in Butya were staged by Ukraine and Russian soldiers have nothing to do with it. Zelensky calls that nonsense.

https://twitter.com/nos_osint/status/1511355372002496522

Verified!
 
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'Meer dan 30 doden bij aanval treinstation' • Rusland ontkent schuld, wijst naar Oekraïne

4 HOURS AGO
Mayor Butsha: 163 dead identified
In Butya, a place near Kiev where Russian soldiers are believed to have killed hundreds of civilians, 163 victims have been identified so far. That is what the mayor of the city tells Voice of America . "These are citizens of our city who were cynically murdered, brutally tortured by the Russians. We know their last names, first names, where they lived and who they were."

He says 320 civilian bodies have now been found in his city. They were almost all shot. He says that about 80 percent of the community has now been searched, but bodies are still being found. For example, five murdered youths whose hands were tied were found in a cellar.
 
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'Meer dan 30 doden bij aanval treinstation' • Rusland ontkent schuld, wijst naar Oekraïne

AN HOUR AGO
Food prices worldwide at record high due to war
Global food prices have not been as high as they were in March in the past 32 years, the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO) reports. The war in Ukraine is one of the main reasons for the increase. Both Russia and Ukraine are important exporters of grains.

The index with which the FAO measures the prices of many commodities rose by 13 percent in March compared to February. Cereals in particular rose in price (+17 percent) because of the war in Ukraine.

Vegetable oil became almost 25 percent more expensive. Ukraine is the world's leading exporter of sunflower oil. This means, among other things, that the shelves with oil in Dutch supermarkets are empty.

I'm the lucky one who still has some "fat on the bones"...what about other people in lots of other countries....who have to skip another meal....man.....this is complete madness....please put a bomb on Poetin's love nests.
 
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I am disgusted by the news coming out of Ukraine this morning regarding Russia's latest War Crime in its attack on the train station they knew is full of human beings attempting to evacuate. Literally churned my stomach.

How long are the collective "we" going to sit back and watch while wringing our hands and spouting out "thoughts and prayers" before getting off our collective duffs and doing something about it? There is precedent set - Syria. Or do we now justify not intervening by claiming "they've got to use chemical weapons to massacre civilians first" vice just using bombs to massacre civilians. BOTH are War Crimes on the same scale with the exact same outcome. I'm disgusted at the lacking morals - can't claim to hold the moral high ground on that front and "doing the right thing" any more. Ughhh.

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7 April Update:

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, April 7 | Institute for the Study of War (understandingwar.org)

RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, APRIL 7
April 7, 5:15 pm ET

Russian proxy forces claimed to have captured central Mariupol on April 7, but Ukrainian forces retain positions in the southwest of the city. ISW cannot independently confirm this proxy claim, but we have not observed confirmed reports of fighting in central Mariupol since April 2.[1] Russian forces will likely complete the capture of Mariupol in the coming days.

Russian forces are cohering combat power for an intended major offensive in Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts in the coming days. Ukrainian civil and military officials continued to warn local residents to evacuate prior to a likely Russian offensive. Russian forces will likely attempt to regroup and redeploy units withdrawn from northeastern Ukraine to support an offensive, but these units are unlikely to enable a Russian breakthrough. Russian forces along the Izyum-Slovyansk axis did not make any territorial gains in the last 24 hours. Russian forces are unlikely to successfully capture Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts if Russian forces in Izyum are unable to encircle Ukrainian forces on the line of contact in eastern Ukraine.

Key Takeaways

  • Russian forces claim to have successfully captured central Mariupol, but Ukrainian forces retain control of the port southwest of the city. Russian forces will likely complete the capture of Mariupol in the coming days.
  • Russian forces are setting conditions for a major offensive in eastern Ukraine in the coming days, but damaged units redeployed from northeastern Ukraine are unlikely to enable a successful Russian breakthrough.
  • Ukrainian forces repelled continuing Russian attacks from Izyum southeast toward Slovyansk and Barvinkove.
  • Russian and Belarusian forces are conducting “demonstrative actions” to fix Ukrainian forces around Kyiv in place. However, these units are highly unlikely to launch new offensive operations, and Ukrainian units around Kyiv can likely safely redeploy to eastern Ukraine.
  • Western sanctions are likely successfully disrupting Russia’s military-industrial base.
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Main effort—Eastern Ukraine
Subordinate main effort—Mariupol (Russian objective: Capture Mariupol and reduce the Ukrainian defenders)

Russian forces claim to have successfully captured central Mariupol, but Ukrainian forces retain control of the port southwest of the city. Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) Press Secretary Eduard Basurin claimed on April 7 that Russian forces have “practically cleared” central Mariupol of Ukrainian forces, but stated fighting is ongoing around Mariupol’s port in the southwest of the city.[5] While ISW cannot independently confirm this claim, we have not observed confirmed reports of fighting in central Mariupol since Russian forces seized the SBU building in downtown Mariupol on April 2.[6] Social media users and the Ukrainian General Staff confirmed that Ukrainian forces retained control of at least portions of southwestern Mariupol on April 7.[7] Russian forces will likely complete the capture of Mariupol in the coming days.
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Subordinate main effort—Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts (Russian objective: Capture the entirety of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts, the claimed territory of Russia’s proxies in Donbas)

Russian forces are setting conditions for a major offensive in eastern Ukraine in the coming days. The Ukrainian General Staff reported on April 7 that Russian forces are regrouping units to form offensive groups.[8] The head of Ukraine’s Luhansk regional defense command called on residents to evacuate immediately, ahead of a Russian offensive in the coming days or weeks.

Supporting Effort #1—Kharkiv and Izyum: (Russian objective: Advance southeast to support Russian operations in Luhansk Oblast, and fix Ukrainian forces around Kharkiv in place)

Ukrainian forces repelled continuing Russian attacks from Izyum southeast toward Slovyansk and Barvinkove on April 7.

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Supporting Effort #2—Southern axis: (Objective: Defend Kherson against Ukrainian counterattacks)

Russian forces continued efforts to improve their defensive positions in Kherson Oblast on April 7 to repel further Ukrainian counterattacks.

Supporting Effort #3—Sumy and Northeastern Ukraine: (Russian objective: Withdraw combat power in good order for redeployment to eastern Ukraine)

Russian forces withdrawn from northeastern Ukraine continued preparations to redeploy to other axes of advance. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Eastern Military District and VDV (Airborne) units are regrouping in Belarus, and Central Military District units are regrouping in Bryansk and Kursk, Russia.

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Immediate items to watch


    • Russian forces will continue reinforcing the Izyum-Slovyansk axis and attempting to advance to and through Slovyansk to encircle Ukrainian forces.
    • Russia is likely cohering forces in Donbas to attempt a major offensive in the coming days or weeks.
    • The Battle of Mariupol continues, and it is unclear how much longer the Ukrainian defenders can hold out.
    • Russian forces have fully vacated the Sumy axis and are regrouping in Belgorod for likely deployment to the Izyum-Slovyansk axis.
    • Some Russian forces are likely to return to home stations in Russia while others will re-enter the fighting in the east.
 
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At Least 30 Killed In Rocket Attack On Train Station In Ukraine - YouTube
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Russia-Ukraine live updates: At least 30 killed, over 100 injured in attack on Ukrainian train station - ABC News (go.com)
''The attack occurred as "thousands" of civilians fleeing the Russian invasion were at the train station waiting to be taken to "safer regions of Ukraine," according to Kyrylenko, who accused Russian forces of "deliberately trying to disrupt the evacuation of civilians."

"The evacuation will continue," the governor added. "Anyone who wants to leave the region will be able to do so."

Graphic images provided by Ukrainian officials showed the aftermath of the attack -- bodies lying on the ground next to scattered luggage and debris, with charred vehicles parked nearby. The remains of a large rocket with the words "for our children" in Russian painted on the side was also seen on the ground next to the main building of the station.''

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Large crowds of people wait on a platform to board trains at Kramatorsk central station
''Earlier this week, large crowds of people were seen waiting on the platform to board trains at the Kramatorsk railway station as they fled the city in Ukraine's disputed Donbas region.''
 
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April 8 2022
Ukraine war: 'For the children' written on Russian missile used in train station airstrike - YouTube

Russia-Ukraine live updates: Kremlin reacts to attack on Kramatorsk railway station - ABC News (go.com)
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''Platforms at the station, in the city of Kramatorsk, had been jammed in recent days with people rushing to safer areas in Ukraine’s west, and officials said there were about 4,000 people at the railway station at the time of the strike. Photos provided by Ukrainian officials of the aftermath showed people splayed on the ground, surrounded by scattered luggage and debris. In a video from the scene, a woman screams, “There are so many corpses, there are children, there are just children!”

As the war enters its seventh week, the strike appeared to continue a Russian approach of targeting civilians and infrastructure that has devastated cities such as Kharkiv and Mariupol, intended to demoralize populations. Russia’s Defense Ministry called the reports that Russia was responsible for an attack in Kramatorsk a “provocation.”
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The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 7 hrs ago
Russian forces strike at Odesa Oblast from the Black Sea. According to the Odesa city council, citing the Armed Forces, the missile strike launched by Russian warships has damaged some infrastructure in the region. The details of the attack are yet to be published.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
UK intelligence: Russian redeployment from Ukraine's north to east will likely take at least a week. Russian troops have fully withdrawn from the north, with at least some of those expected to be sent to the Donbas, according to the U.K. Ministry of Defense.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 5 hrs ago
Kharkiv Oblast shelled 48 times over past 24 hours, 15 people injured. Governor Oleh Synehubov said that Russian forces had used artillery, mortars, tanks and multiple launch rocket systems to attack residential neighborhoods of Kharkiv and Derhachi, a city north of Kharkiv.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - WARNING: GRAPHIC PHOTO
Russian attack of Kramatorsk train station kills 30 people, injures over 100. Thousands were at the station at the time of the missile strike, as locals are being evacuated ahead of the escalation in the east. Source: Donetsk Oblast Governor Pavlo Kyrylenko, Ukrzaliznytsia.

At least 39 killed by Russian strike on train station with evacuating civilians (kyivindependent.com)
The Russian forces used Tochka-U missile systems to hit a train station where thousands of civilians were waiting for evacuation at the moment of the attack.

Just two days earlier, on April 6, the Ukrainian authorities urged the residents of the country’s eastern regions – Donetsk, Luhansk and Kharkiv oblasts – to evacuate, ahead of the military escalation in the area.

“Evacuations have been going on since Feb. 26, and the Russians knew that thousands of people are there every day. I believe that’s what they were counting on,” Ihnatchenko said.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 1 hr ago
Chernihiv Mayor: about 700 people killed by Russia during siege. This includes both soldiers and civilians, Chernihiv Mayor Vladyslav Atroshenko said on April 8. Atroshenko said prior that 70% of Chernihiv was destroyed during the month-long siege of the city.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
Al Arabiya: Russia, Ukraine willing to hold talks in Turkey. A Turkish official told Al Arabiya news outlet that “both Russia and Ukraine are willing to hold talks in Turkey, but they are far from agreeing on a common text” after Russia massacred Ukrainian civilians in Bucha.
 
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Concerning the train station attack…

What line is it that Russia must cross for NATO to say “That is enough! You’ve done it now! We cannot allow that to continue!”?
When Ukraine is nothing but a smoldering ash heap devoid of life will NATO say “Well, at least the Russians didn’t use nuclear weapons!”.

This is very upsetting to me.
 
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A train filled with trauma (cbc.ca)
''Nadia Zhmikovska was a teenager when she started working for Ukrainian Railways. In 31 years crisscrossing the country, she had never been scared until Russia invaded.

“It was scary,” she told CBC News on a recent journey east from Lviv, in western Ukraine.

“The trains were under shelling, we went through Zaporizhzhia; in Kyiv we stopped for four hours and we could hear a lot of shelling.”

In the first month of Russia’s war in Ukraine, the trains going west were overloaded with panicked passengers fleeing the brutal bombing and shelling in the east, filling up every square metre of the carriages.
In one carriage “we had 50 spots and 200 passengers,” she said.'''

''Zhmikovska remembers one man in particular, a father, evacuating from Volnovakha, a town in the Donetsk region hit by heavy fighting. His wife had been killed and he had two children with him, ages nine and seven; they were headed for Poland, but in the panic he’d lost their third child.

“He walked through the whole train, 20 carriages, and he never found his child,” she said.''

''On Friday, a rocket attack on a train station in Kramatorsk in eastern Ukraine killed at least 30 people and injured more than 100, according to Ukrainian Railways.

In spite of the grave risks, the trains haven’t stopped and the staff keep working.

An estimated 2.5 million Ukrainians have escaped by train to relative safety, an extraordinary exodus not seen in the railway’s 31-year history since independence from the Soviet Union.''

''Her son, Pavel, turned three years old in the basement.

“People suffered,” she said as her face collapsed into tears. She spoke about feeling guilty they’d gotten out while so many were still trapped.
She said they won’t go back.

“There is no Mariupol, no city, no infrastructure, no hospital, no shops, not even one building.”

“The city is only alive,” she described, “because there is life in the basements, but there is no Mariupol.”

“We are an ordinary family that have no place to live, no home, no city. We are wanderers.”
 
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Concerning the train station attack…

What line is it that Russia must cross for NATO to say “That is enough! You’ve done it now! We cannot allow that to continue!”?
When Ukraine is nothing but a smoldering ash heap devoid of life will NATO say “Well, at least the Russians didn’t use nuclear weapons!”.

This is very upsetting to me.

I so very agree with you; why do I serve if not for situations like this?
 
  • #218
Putin made that line very clear. NATO gets involved, nuclear missiles will fly.

I am a Cold War Veteran and this is what I was trained for (1970's Army First Cav Aviation). We have come close twice to being hit with a Russian...no SOVIET first strike. Calmer heads at the Kremlin prevailed. I doubt we would be lucky a third time.

What US cities would we be willing to have uninhabitable for the next 10 thousand years?

I despise and am horrified by Soviet actions as much as anyone else. We are in a very bad spot right now. I am afraid we will have WWIII no matter what the US and NATO do.
 
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Putin made that line very clear. NATO gets involved, nuclear missiles will fly.

I am a Cold War Veteran and this is what I was trained for (1970's Army First Cav Aviation). We have come close twice to being hit with a Russian...no SOVIET first strike. Calmer heads at the Kremlin prevailed. I doubt we would be lucky a third time.

What US cities would we be willing to have uninhabitable for the next 10 thousand years?

I despise and am horrified by Soviet actions as much as anyone else. We are in a very bad spot right now. I am afraid we will have WWIII no matter what the US and NATO do.

Yes. Ukraine is bad enough without NATO knowingly unleashing Armageddon. IMO, NATO has gone above and beyond for a non member country. If I recall, just the US citizens alone are approaching $3B in aid to Ukraine.

If NATO gets into a war, they will need to get involved in Tigray as well. Their casualties are jaw dropping. All JMO.
 
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