Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022

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Putin doesn't want the Ukrainians to hate him -- he wants to reunite countries.
You're joking, right?
Even Russians hate him rn.
 
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Another picture of civilians in Kyiv learning how to use weapons.
(Article said machine guns before, now just guns.)
Home - BBC News
 

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Putin's OWN DAUGHTER is using media to say NO TO WAR joining so many other RUSSIANS. GOD BLESS HER. He must not love his own daughter to not listen to his own daughter pleading to him. Fox Channel Reporting.
 
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A lot will depend on what happens in Ukraine. Putin doesn't want the Ukrainians to hate him -- he wants to reunite countries. If there is an inordinate amount of casualties, it will backfire on him. There are many Russian loyalists in Ukraine--mainly in the eastern portion--but they won't stand for heavy casualties either. Frankly, I'd be surprised to see him annex more than Donetsk and Luhansk. But, he's kind of a mad man, so second-guessing him is a crapshoot.

Um, if he assassinates the very popular centrist President Zelenshy and his family, attacks orphanages and schools, makes Chernobyl an even greater danger zone, executes guards on a remote island, and causes massive unwarranted death and destruction on a peaceful democracy, what is there for them to like?

Even the Pope is involved in please for peace. China has decried this invasion and demands "balanced negotiations".

Putin has already gone too far.
 
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"Our military are here, our citizens and society are here. We are all here defending our independence, our state, and this is how it's going to be," he said.

"Glory to our defenders, men and women!" Zelensky added. "Glory to Ukraine, glory to the heroes!"

Ukraine's president posts defiant video with top government leaders saying 'we are all here' in the streets of besieged Kyiv



ETA: It was reported Biden spoke with Zelensky in the last hour. (No link it was referenced on live TV.) Key points should be forthcoming.
 
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14 countries have joined NATO since 1997

What is NATO?

In response to this:

The Kremlin’s objectives are not limited to Ukraine.
Russia has demanded legally binding agreements to renounce further NATO enlargement.
And to remove troops and infrastructure from Allies that joined after 1997.
 
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o/t For the first time my dear mom spoke of her experiences as a child in wartime, it shocked me to hear her tell of how afraid she had been, the scarcity of food, how they trembled in the dark as planes roared overhead. Then she said she was tired of living. i will not ever ask her again.

It’s so shocking and sobering hearing what some people went through, and that trauma has stayed with them all this time. Whereabouts was she during the war?
 
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Still not seem to be able to access it...very frustrating...but all of you will guide me through it. X

Dear @Bit of hope,

Here is the video on Reuters International News. Please let me know if you can access it.

 
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Dear @Bit of hope,

Here is the video on Reuters International News. Please let me know if you can access it.


Wonderful you want to help me..yes I have access to this Hugs!! Sadly nothing about what they (we) are actually going to do....to provide an annexation....
 
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It’s so shocking and sobering hearing what some people went through, and that trauma has stayed with them all this time. Whereabouts was she during the war?
The UK.
 
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