Ok is it just me or does it seem this thread has railroaded? This seems to have become a defend the group that traveled with Britt debate. I thought this was a "let's figure out what we can make sense out of" discussion.
I do have a few questions/ thoughts for those that think the "friends"-PB & crew & Britts group are all completely innocent. (majority of this info btw is in this thread & been discussed, but should be brought up again) Maybe we can figure a few things out & get on track for Britt, she deserves answers & so do those that love her.
Just so I'm clear...I'm not defending the group of kids from Rochester. Like I said, I can't say the words that come to mind when I think of them because I'd find myself in timeout here. Just wanted it to be clear that simply because I think finding Brittanee doesn't begin or end with the kids doesn't mean I'm defending them as human beings and likewise doesn't mean that we all aren't looking for the same answers. Likewise, just because I don't think the answers to what happened to Brittanee lies with the kids doesn't mean I'm not searching for the same answers that those who believe the kids are involved are searching for.
1- If this college party even existed when PB & crew attended why did not ONE photo pop up? Even in 2009 this group took photos of everything. These threads hold many of them. Not one witness has said they attended. Watching social media since this started, I never saw one photo of that party amongst the MB vaca pics.
I'm not convinced if the party ever happened either. I think I said it would be relatively easy for LE to confirm one way or the other. As for pics, sometimes the answers are just simple. There were none taken. I certainly acknowledge that us here at WS not being able to ascertain their whereabouts opens it up to speculation but it doesn't mean LE doesn't have more information available to them that has led them to point in directions other than the kids.
2-PB stated Britt came to the room while they were watching the baseball game. Yet it was already over. Why?
Was it over? Seems to me it may have been just ending. Certainly, post game highlights and interviews would have been going on at the least. Brittanee was seen on camera at 8:15. LE has said it takes about 15 minutes to walk the distance between BW and that location. That would put her at BW at about 8:30. Game didn't end until 8:31. Those times are so close, it just doesn't raise red flags to me. I'm more concerned about whether or not the "college party" ever happened and what evidence LE has that the kids attended.
3-PB says on Dr Phil they left early because of the drive. On the ID show it's said that one of the boys moms told them they should come home "considering all that's happening." (what young adults call their parents on Spring break late at night when nothing is wrong) The truth is they were kicked out if the hotel for comments made to an employee. Why the different stories?
First, I'd like to know where all of the different stories originate from. Are they straight from the horse's mouth or are they reporters/third persons? I've also seen it reported that Brittanee was last seen at Bar Harbor when I think all would agree it was Blue Water. Having said that, leaving at 1 a.m. would raise my eyebrows (that fact alone as to the reason why is cause enough to look further) and it apparently raised LE's eyebrows because they checked the story out and again, have pointed their investigation elsewhere.
4-If LE did ping any phones don't you think it would have been stated that their phones weren't in that location? I'm sure PB especially would have used that as his "alibi" however, just because a phone is in a place doesn't mean a person is.
No. We probably know 1% of what LE knows.
5-why did Britts group refuse to answer the phone for Dawn, but answer for Peter?
They're irresponsible kids. I bet they wouldn't have answered a call from their own mom while down there. It doesn't shock me one bit that kids on spring break partying would answer a phone call from a fellow partier but not one from an adult. In hindsight, was it rude, wrong and whatever other adjective you can think of that would get me kicked off of WS? Absolutely.
6-while Alanna was the only one close to Britt many of these people knew her. Majority that stayed w her attended a party at her house a month prior to her disappearance. Yet claimed not to know her-why?
Obviously they were all trying to distance themselves from Brittanee and didn't want to get bogged down in the investigation. Again, I would call them all those same names that would get me kicked off of here but it is more a reflection of them as human beings than guilt in Brittanee's disappearance. And their exact relationship to Brittanee...I'm not so sure about. I've read about that party you mention. I've heard DD say she didn't know any of those kids herself, yet they were at her house. To me, I'd put my money on the fact that they knew of Brittanee but weren't necessarily close to her (with AL and PB being the closer of any in the group). I really don't get the impression that Brittanee ran in those circles all the time. Another question...have they actually told LE they didn't know Brittanee at all?
7-Alanna uses past tense in a media interview.
I see people talk about this all the time. Consider it but don't make it something it's not. Again, maybe enough to raise LE's eyebrow, but the investigation has pointed them elsewhere.
8-Thursday night at Club K, Peter was in VIP, he took Britt w him. You have to be 21 & over-he was 20, how & why was he there? Why bring Britt w him? Who did they talk to there?
(perfect example for ALL those who went of how they may know something & not even know, who is to say someone in VIP wasn't watching her? -or they set her up to meet them?)
As to the initial questions...do you have any idea how many bars I was getting in to when I was underage and on spring break? Not saying it's right, but it's not exactly uncommon. As to the other questions, yes, I'd hope PB has told LE who they saw/were with. LE has said he has fully cooperated, so I'd hope that that means those questions were asked and answered. LE certainly doesn't have any qualms in saying someone was refusing to answer any questions when they did, in fact, refuse (RM).
9-PB obtained the biggest high profile atty in Rochester NY just days after Britt disappears. His retainer is said to be 100k. His parents don't have that kind of cash. With his internet scam business he may, but did his boss Ronnie Davis pay it since he retained John Parinello at the time for all his club dealings?
The only fact I see in here is that PB retained a lawyer. Hiring a lawyer is about as far removed from an indicator of guilt as there can be. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's almost foolish to submit yourself to questions by LE without a lawyer present, even if just to hold your hand through the process. Further evidence of this being a non-issue...LE has said PB has fully cooperated despite having hired a lawyer.
10- The group staying with Britt switched hotels once she was missing-what was the reason for that?
I think that has been easily explained and was planned well before Brittanee went missing.
Ok this is just a starting list. I'm not saying I think any of them are guilty parties, what I am saying is that they could easily have info that they don't realize is pertinent & has been for over FIVE YEARS. There is no good reason to not speak with someone to allow them to ask you what happened, even of just a mother to ask what the last known events and mood were of her missing daughter. Moments that you hold and may alway hold. Especially for 2 of them that had known Britt prior for almost as long as she's been missing now yet neither one acts as if she ever existed.
Likewise, I'm not saying any of them are not guilty. I would also agree that they should be and have been questioned by LE. If not questioned to the degree one feels is adequate, it seems to me that that frustration should be directed to LE more than the kids. As to speaking with DD and answering questions about all the sex, drugs and rock & roll...no arguments that they are scum in how they conduct themselves but I think it gets things sidetracked when it comes to actually finding Brittanee and bringing the guilty to justice. Prior to RM being identified, any guesses on what percentage of posts were about how callous the kids were versus the percentage of posts that looked into RSO's that lived in the area?
Bottom line for me, all those things that you mention are certainly sufficient for LE to follow up on them. LE did. LE moved on in a different direction. That should tell us something, considering how much more LE knows than us.