Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #16

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Some things I've seen tossed about but I'm not sure I've ever seen any answers (if I did, I read right over it).

1. I've seen it said that PB told DD several different stories. Do we have any idea what those stories were and how they varied?

2. I know we have the 11:58 ping at Tower 332. Do we know when her phone FIRST pinged that tower? I've seen the question asked in different ways and I'm guessing the answer is no.

3. Anyone know how to look up RSO's addresses from back in 2009?

4. If DD is so adamant in getting answers from the kids, has she ever considered filing a civil suit against them? It would give her subpoena powers and the right to depose them. My guess is she's past the statute of limitations for being able to file it at this point though I would guess. While I don't think PB or any of the Rochester group are responsible for Brittanee going missing, I certainly understand her desire to get answers from them to many questions that they have refused to give, at least to her or publicly.
 
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Hello all. I've been following Brittanees cause ever since she first went missing. I personally feel that this was a stranger abduction.

I feel this way mainly because I feel that if her friends were responsible, there would have been SOME kind of evidence they left behind. I feel that since Britnnee was allowed to have her phone to a certain extent (where it last pinged) LE would have been able to see one (if not all) of the players pinging in the same area. I definitely think their actions have been shady but I just dont see them as being killers.

I feel that it was a crime of opportunity & poor Brittanee just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. As for no one seeing the abduction take place.. that happens more times than we can count. Broad daylight, night, crowded area, private. As someone on here mentioned before, it could have been a time where traffic was slim & the lighting was dim & the perp took his chances. If not that, then she willingly got into the car with someone & she was met with foul play. She went to a whole different state with people she didn't know that well & IIRC, she met someone in Myrtle Beach & the same day was in their hotel room 'hanging out'. This kind of behavior makes me think she was someone who was young & very trusting & just not very aware of the evil that could befall her.

Either way, I've always had a strange feeling that this was a strange abduction. Just MOO of course.
 
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Hello all. I've been following Brittanees cause ever since she first went missing. I personally feel that this was a stranger abduction.

I feel this way mainly because I feel that if her friends were responsible, there would have been SOME kind of evidence they left behind. I feel that since Britnnee was allowed to have her phone to a certain extent (where it last pinged) LE would have been able to see one (if not all) of the players pinging in the same area. I definitely think their actions have been shady but I just dont see them as being killers.

I feel that it was a crime of opportunity & poor Brittanee just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. As for no one seeing the abduction take place.. that happens more times than we can count. Broad daylight, night, crowded area, private. As someone on here mentioned before, it could have been a time where traffic was slim & the lighting was dim & the perp took his chances. If not that, then she willingly got into the car with someone & she was met with foul play. She went to a whole different state with people she didn't know that well & IIRC, she met someone in Myrtle Beach & the same day was in their hotel room 'hanging out'. This kind of behavior makes me think she was someone who was young & very trusting & just not very aware of the evil that could befall her.

Either way, I've always had a strange feeling that this was a strange abduction. Just MOO of course.


I think her friends behaved too hinkely starting from the night she went missing. You don't leave someone behind in Myrtle Beach if they came with you. Normal people would refuse to leave before finding her. Instead it appears everyone was going to hightail it out of town without saying a word and leaving stuff behind.
 
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I think her friends behaved too hinkely starting from the night she went missing. You don't leave someone behind in Myrtle Beach if they came with you. Normal people would refuse to leave before finding her. Instead it appears everyone was going to hightail it out of town without saying a word and leaving stuff behind.

From this article in 2009, it seems Dawn Drexel thought similarly:


Missing teen's mother believes friends have information on teen's disappearance
Posted at: 06/15/2009 2:11 PM | WHEC.com
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=199384415021
 
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IIRC Britney almost on a whim high tailed it down to Myrtle Beach alone. The relationship with the "friends" is something that I've never seen described in detail. IIRC it was more of a group of kids from Rochester went to Myrtle Beach during spring break than a group of Britneys close friends and Britney spent most of her time alone.

I just watched the video of PB on Dr. Phil. While I don't feel too sorry for him, I just don't think he could have done it. The hotel video, cell phone records, and eye witnesses can give an account as to where he was the day of the disappearance. I was a little shocked to have read the other people from Rochester were only interviewed over the phone, though. Someone needs to interogate them one at a time face to face. While some of Rochester crowd, may have been callous, I can't see them committing the perfect crime. For the same reason I doubt Peter had anything to do with the disappearance, I don't see anyone from Rochester being involved.
 
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IIRC Britney almost on a whim high tailed it down to Myrtle Beach alone. The relationship with the "friends" is something that I've never seen described in detail. IIRC it was more of a group of kids from Rochester went to Myrtle Beach during spring break than a group of Britneys close friends and Britney spent most of her time alone.

I just watched the video of PB on Dr. Phil. While I don't feel too sorry for him, I just don't think he could have done it. The hotel video, cell phone records, and eye witnesses can give an account as to where he was the day of the disappearance. I was a little shocked to have read the other people from Rochester were only interviewed over the phone, though. Someone needs to interogate them one at a time face to face. While some of Rochester crowd, may have been callous, I can't see them committing the perfect crime. For the same reason I doubt Peter had anything to do with the disappearance, I don't see anyone from Rochester being involved.


I agree. Even before she went missing it didnt seem as if those 'friends' cared about her at all. Maybe they acted the way they did because they didnt want to blamed for her disappearance? We all know the people are closest to the crime are the first ones that are looked at. It's possible they were just scared & didn't want to be blamed.. ESPECIALLY if there was illegal drugs involved.
 
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I think her friends behaved too hinkely starting from the night she went missing. You don't leave someone behind in Myrtle Beach if they came with you. Normal people would refuse to leave before finding her. Instead it appears everyone was going to hightail it out of town without saying a word and leaving stuff behind.

I don't think Brittanee went with PB and guys. Are you talking about the girls and company? I would hope and think that LE checked the pings for PB and company to verify that they headed north. I would hope LE checked into the "college party" or whatever it was they supposedly went to before leaving to verify their whereabouts as well. The fact that I believe LE would have done these things and continue to look elsewhere tells me the likelihood of PB and company being involved is slim to none. Jerks and a lot of other names I can't say here but not murderers in this instance at least.
 
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From this article in 2009, it seems Dawn Drexel thought similarly:


Missing teen's mother believes friends have information on teen's disappearance
Posted at: 06/15/2009 2:11 PM | WHEC.com
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=199384415021

Unfortunately, I think the only thing she would learn from the kids is how much partying went down while at MB, yes, sex, drugs and rock & roll. To Brittanee's credit, it sounds like she didn't want to be a part of that crowd.
 
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I agree. Even before she went missing it didnt seem as if those 'friends' cared about her at all. Maybe they acted the way they did because they didnt want to blamed for her disappearance? We all know the people are closest to the crime are the first ones that are looked at. It's possible they were just scared & didn't want to be blamed.. ESPECIALLY if there was illegal drugs involved.

Those kids didn't care about anything but themselves and partying. If JO all of a sudden didn't want to drink, get high and wear slutty outfits, they wouldn't care about her either. Doesn't mean they'd abduct and kill her though.
 
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Ok is it just me or does it seem this thread has railroaded? This seems to have become a defend the group that traveled with Britt debate. I thought this was a "let's figure out what we can make sense out of" discussion.
I do have a few questions/ thoughts for those that think the "friends"-PB & crew & Britts group are all completely innocent. (majority of this info btw is in this thread & been discussed, but should be brought up again) Maybe we can figure a few things out & get on track for Britt, she deserves answers & so do those that love her.
1- If this college party even existed when PB & crew attended why did not ONE photo pop up? Even in 2009 this group took photos of everything. These threads hold many of them. Not one witness has said they attended. Watching social media since this started, I never saw one photo of that party amongst the MB vaca pics.
2-PB stated Britt came to the room while they were watching the baseball game. Yet it was already over. Why?
3-PB says on Dr Phil they left early because of the drive. On the ID show it's said that one of the boys moms told them they should come home "considering all that's happening." (what young adults call their parents on Spring break late at night when nothing is wrong) The truth is they were kicked out if the hotel for comments made to an employee. Why the different stories?
4-If LE did ping any phones don't you think it would have been stated that their phones weren't in that location? I'm sure PB especially would have used that as his "alibi" however, just because a phone is in a place doesn't mean a person is.
5-why did Britts group refuse to answer the phone for Dawn, but answer for Peter?
6-while Alanna was the only one close to Britt many of these people knew her. Majority that stayed w her attended a party at her house a month prior to her disappearance. Yet claimed not to know her-why?
7-Alanna uses past tense in a media interview.
8-Thursday night at Club K, Peter was in VIP, he took Britt w him. You have to be 21 & over-he was 20, how & why was he there? Why bring Britt w him? Who did they talk to there?
(perfect example for ALL those who went of how they may know something & not even know, who is to say someone in VIP wasn't watching her? -or they set her up to meet them?)
9-PB obtained the biggest high profile atty in Rochester NY just days after Britt disappears. His retainer is said to be 100k. His parents don't have that kind of cash. With his internet scam business he may, but did his boss Ronnie Davis pay it since he retained John Parinello at the time for all his club dealings?
10- The group staying with Britt switched hotels once she was missing-what was the reason for that?

Ok this is just a starting list. I'm not saying I think any of them are guilty parties, what I am saying is that they could easily have info that they don't realize is pertinent & has been for over FIVE YEARS. There is no good reason to not speak with someone to allow them to ask you what happened, even of just a mother to ask what the last known events and mood were of her missing daughter. Moments that you hold and may alway hold. Especially for 2 of them that had known Britt prior for almost as long as she's been missing now yet neither one acts as if she ever existed.
 
  • #574
All this time I was under the impression BD went to the beach with a group of girls. Those pic's show BD with 2 other girls & 4-5 guys. How many friends did BD travel with that were staying at the same hotel?


Britt ended up with a group of 9 others, 2 other girls. Some were in MB ahead of her & the girls-it's not positively stated who drive w who & when but Ugur has a ticket prior to her arrival so done were there prior. PB & his group were in MB prior as well. The link with the video shows those in attendance.

Edit: thought I would add there were many others there from Britts HS staying at other hotels as well. Not sure that's been discussed too much before though.
 
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Ok is it just me or does it seem this thread has railroaded? This seems to have become a defend the group that traveled with Britt debate. I thought this was a "let's figure out what we can make sense out of" discussion.
I do have a few questions/ thoughts for those that think the "friends"-PB & crew & Britts group are all completely innocent. (majority of this info btw is in this thread & been discussed, but should be brought up again) Maybe we can figure a few things out & get on track for Britt, she deserves answers & so do those that love her.

Just so I'm clear...I'm not defending the group of kids from Rochester. Like I said, I can't say the words that come to mind when I think of them because I'd find myself in timeout here. Just wanted it to be clear that simply because I think finding Brittanee doesn't begin or end with the kids doesn't mean I'm defending them as human beings and likewise doesn't mean that we all aren't looking for the same answers. Likewise, just because I don't think the answers to what happened to Brittanee lies with the kids doesn't mean I'm not searching for the same answers that those who believe the kids are involved are searching for.

1- If this college party even existed when PB & crew attended why did not ONE photo pop up? Even in 2009 this group took photos of everything. These threads hold many of them. Not one witness has said they attended. Watching social media since this started, I never saw one photo of that party amongst the MB vaca pics.

I'm not convinced if the party ever happened either. I think I said it would be relatively easy for LE to confirm one way or the other. As for pics, sometimes the answers are just simple. There were none taken. I certainly acknowledge that us here at WS not being able to ascertain their whereabouts opens it up to speculation but it doesn't mean LE doesn't have more information available to them that has led them to point in directions other than the kids.


2-PB stated Britt came to the room while they were watching the baseball game. Yet it was already over. Why?

Was it over? Seems to me it may have been just ending. Certainly, post game highlights and interviews would have been going on at the least. Brittanee was seen on camera at 8:15. LE has said it takes about 15 minutes to walk the distance between BW and that location. That would put her at BW at about 8:30. Game didn't end until 8:31. Those times are so close, it just doesn't raise red flags to me. I'm more concerned about whether or not the "college party" ever happened and what evidence LE has that the kids attended.

3-PB says on Dr Phil they left early because of the drive. On the ID show it's said that one of the boys moms told them they should come home "considering all that's happening." (what young adults call their parents on Spring break late at night when nothing is wrong) The truth is they were kicked out if the hotel for comments made to an employee. Why the different stories?

First, I'd like to know where all of the different stories originate from. Are they straight from the horse's mouth or are they reporters/third persons? I've also seen it reported that Brittanee was last seen at Bar Harbor when I think all would agree it was Blue Water. Having said that, leaving at 1 a.m. would raise my eyebrows (that fact alone as to the reason why is cause enough to look further) and it apparently raised LE's eyebrows because they checked the story out and again, have pointed their investigation elsewhere.

4-If LE did ping any phones don't you think it would have been stated that their phones weren't in that location? I'm sure PB especially would have used that as his "alibi" however, just because a phone is in a place doesn't mean a person is.

No. We probably know 1% of what LE knows.

5-why did Britts group refuse to answer the phone for Dawn, but answer for Peter?

They're irresponsible kids. I bet they wouldn't have answered a call from their own mom while down there. It doesn't shock me one bit that kids on spring break partying would answer a phone call from a fellow partier but not one from an adult. In hindsight, was it rude, wrong and whatever other adjective you can think of that would get me kicked off of WS? Absolutely.

6-while Alanna was the only one close to Britt many of these people knew her. Majority that stayed w her attended a party at her house a month prior to her disappearance. Yet claimed not to know her-why?

Obviously they were all trying to distance themselves from Brittanee and didn't want to get bogged down in the investigation. Again, I would call them all those same names that would get me kicked off of here but it is more a reflection of them as human beings than guilt in Brittanee's disappearance. And their exact relationship to Brittanee...I'm not so sure about. I've read about that party you mention. I've heard DD say she didn't know any of those kids herself, yet they were at her house. To me, I'd put my money on the fact that they knew of Brittanee but weren't necessarily close to her (with AL and PB being the closer of any in the group). I really don't get the impression that Brittanee ran in those circles all the time. Another question...have they actually told LE they didn't know Brittanee at all?

7-Alanna uses past tense in a media interview.

I see people talk about this all the time. Consider it but don't make it something it's not. Again, maybe enough to raise LE's eyebrow, but the investigation has pointed them elsewhere.

8-Thursday night at Club K, Peter was in VIP, he took Britt w him. You have to be 21 & over-he was 20, how & why was he there? Why bring Britt w him? Who did they talk to there?
(perfect example for ALL those who went of how they may know something & not even know, who is to say someone in VIP wasn't watching her? -or they set her up to meet them?)

As to the initial questions...do you have any idea how many bars I was getting in to when I was underage and on spring break? Not saying it's right, but it's not exactly uncommon. As to the other questions, yes, I'd hope PB has told LE who they saw/were with. LE has said he has fully cooperated, so I'd hope that that means those questions were asked and answered. LE certainly doesn't have any qualms in saying someone was refusing to answer any questions when they did, in fact, refuse (RM).

9-PB obtained the biggest high profile atty in Rochester NY just days after Britt disappears. His retainer is said to be 100k. His parents don't have that kind of cash. With his internet scam business he may, but did his boss Ronnie Davis pay it since he retained John Parinello at the time for all his club dealings?

The only fact I see in here is that PB retained a lawyer. Hiring a lawyer is about as far removed from an indicator of guilt as there can be. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's almost foolish to submit yourself to questions by LE without a lawyer present, even if just to hold your hand through the process. Further evidence of this being a non-issue...LE has said PB has fully cooperated despite having hired a lawyer.

10- The group staying with Britt switched hotels once she was missing-what was the reason for that?

I think that has been easily explained and was planned well before Brittanee went missing.

Ok this is just a starting list. I'm not saying I think any of them are guilty parties, what I am saying is that they could easily have info that they don't realize is pertinent & has been for over FIVE YEARS. There is no good reason to not speak with someone to allow them to ask you what happened, even of just a mother to ask what the last known events and mood were of her missing daughter. Moments that you hold and may alway hold. Especially for 2 of them that had known Britt prior for almost as long as she's been missing now yet neither one acts as if she ever existed.

Likewise, I'm not saying any of them are not guilty. I would also agree that they should be and have been questioned by LE. If not questioned to the degree one feels is adequate, it seems to me that that frustration should be directed to LE more than the kids. As to speaking with DD and answering questions about all the sex, drugs and rock & roll...no arguments that they are scum in how they conduct themselves but I think it gets things sidetracked when it comes to actually finding Brittanee and bringing the guilty to justice. Prior to RM being identified, any guesses on what percentage of posts were about how callous the kids were versus the percentage of posts that looked into RSO's that lived in the area?

Bottom line for me, all those things that you mention are certainly sufficient for LE to follow up on them. LE did. LE moved on in a different direction. That should tell us something, considering how much more LE knows than us.
 
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No. We probably know 1% of what LE knows.


The only fact I see in here is that PB retained a lawyer. Hiring a lawyer is about as far removed from an indicator of guilt as there can be. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's almost foolish to submit yourself to questions by LE without a lawyer present, even if just to hold your hand through the process. Further evidence of this being a non-issue...LE has said PB has fully cooperated despite having hired a lawyer.



Snipped by me to save space. Agreed on us not knowing what LE has and that is probably the way it will remain unless an arrest is made.

Have to disagree with the 2nd part. As a former LE Officer, I can tell you that LE talks with a lot of people about crimes or potential crimes. While I agree that hiring a lawyer is not an indication of guilt, he did not need a lawyer to answer simple questions such as when did you last see her, where was she going, what did she say, what really happened at CK, etc? I am not saying this guy is guilty of anything, but I can't help but believe that he knows a lot more than he is telling. I have a feeling that he knows what happened to her or at a minimum has a good idea of what happened to her.

I will add that I don't believe there is a major conspiracy among the other people from Rochester that went there on Spring Break. After 5 years, one of them would have slipped up and said something by now.

By the way, how many of them have hired lawyers? How many of them needed lawyers?
 
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i agree with ALL of the points on your list caring!!!!! and i am 100% sold on the idea that some of the group knows more then they are telling! but the question is what? what could make them all collectively not speak or help or even pretend to help in the efforts to find Britt? I think a huge key to this is whoever PB and her saw/crossed paths with or what have you in the vip area... weather he intentionally took her to meet someone for the purpose of whatever happened or weather it was all un planned and a mistake i have a feeling he at the very least has an idea as to what that is. I mean who hires a BIG SHOT lawyer (and spends tho0usands) when any non expensive everyday lawyer (that would cost maybe hundreds) would safice for the purpose of asking simple questions... he wasnt a suspect why get a lawyer at all??? if you are innocent ... i can see if it started to turn into an acusation but just to say to answer a few basic questions? these are just my thoughts sorry if the are alittle jumbled i am trying to do 2 things at once but really felt like i needed to get that out
 
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Snipped by me to save space. Agreed on us not knowing what LE has and that is probably the way it will remain unless an arrest is made.

Have to disagree with the 2nd part. As a former LE Officer, I can tell you that LE talks with a lot of people about crimes or potential crimes. While I agree that hiring a lawyer is not an indication of guilt, he did not need a lawyer to answer simple questions such as when did you last see her, where was she going, what did she say, what really happened at CK, etc? I am not saying this guy is guilty of anything, but I can't help but believe that he knows a lot more than he is telling. I have a feeling that he knows what happened to her or at a minimum has a good idea of what happened to her.

I will add that I don't believe there is a major conspiracy among the other people from Rochester that went there on Spring Break. After 5 years, one of them would have slipped up and said something by now.

By the way, how many of them have hired lawyers? How many of them needed lawyers?[/QUOTE]

Oh I don't doubt that they talk to a lot of people about crimes/potential crimes without lawyers. My point was that if you have the means to do so, it is advisable to always retain a lawyer before being questioned. It doesn't mean you're not going to cooperate. I'll put it this way. If it's my kid...first call I'm making is to a lawyer friend and having them go down to there with my son and me in tow.

How many of them hired one? One as far as I know. How many needed one? I'm sure you'll guess from my feelings on the issue that all of them should have had one.
 
  • #579
I don't see the point In a lawyer to just ask the simply questions of when the last time you saw/heard from someone... But sense everyone is different ok maybe they felt it was needed ... But why such a big time high priced lawyer? Unless they already had dealings with him does anyone know if that could be the case? And why was he retained BEFORE PB was even for sure known to be the last one to see her?? Unless HE knew he was and would be ??
 
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I don't see the point In a lawyer to just ask the simply questions of when the last time you saw/heard from someone... But sense everyone is different ok maybe they felt it was needed ... But why such a big time high priced lawyer? Unless they already had dealings with him does anyone know if that could be the case? And why was he retained BEFORE he was even for sure known to be the last one to see her?? Unless HE knew he was and would be ??

Right on. A person does not need a lawyer to answer information questions. I would think that if he could supply information about what may have happened to her, he should come forward with the information unless he has something to hide. If the questions become accusatory in nature, then he would need a lawyer and not answer any more questions.
 
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