SC - Columbia - Sheriff Slams Female Student to Floor In Class

[MIKAYOYO]

I do not agree with the violence shown in this classroom toward the girl and agree that the handcuffs should have been placed on and that would seem to have been enough "encouragement" to have gotten the girl to comply. However, prior civil request had been made of her to get up and leave the class room and she refused. Her behavior is what led to the escalation of the situation. When LE is called to handle situations it is common sense to comply with their requests. Experience tells us that it is in our best interest to do as we are instructed or some uncomfortable actions might happen toward us. I find it strange that anyone wouldn't obey LE. Been there done that. I'm old.
I'm also not going to mouth off to a drunk person or tell off my boss. As a kid, I never swore in front of my parents because I just might get my teeth knocked out. And, on and on and on....Is no one responsible for their actions and there is no consequence? I believe the officer understands and will be held accountable but will this young woman have learned anything except that its okay to be defiant and bully those in charge? That won't fly well in the real world.
JMO

BBM After reading some of these commentts, it would appear that no, no one is responsible for their acttions. I'm floored some think it's ok for this sttudent to behave thatt way. I don't agree with the degree of force, but as someone else said what is he supposed tto do? You can't reason with this person obviously so why the hell would it be suggested to remove everyone from class and talk to her. Who is gonna get through to her?

You really think this is an efficient use of an officer's time and skills? I get you're trying to defend his actions but I don't understand how anyone thinks calling in cops when students misbehave is an effective way to deal with students, or an ideal use of law enforcement. I doubt people become police officers because they want to beat up kids in school. Shouldn't he be out helping someone, writing speeding tickets, or busting criminals?

JMO.

He's a school resource officer, his job is IN THE SCHOOL. Where my kids go tto school this is their 9-5 job.

MOO

 

[DexterMorgan]

Okay guys. Sonjay. Thank you for your time served as a teacher. It is a thankless job in most areas.

Now they said the cop works for the school system. Half time at the elementary school and the other half at the high school. So he clocks in with the school district everyday. So he should have known better than to use that type of removal tactic. Jmo. Some things can wait. Class was disrupted either way. So what was the point of risking student injuries.

 

[vestigare]

I have seen no evidence this student was reasoned with. From what I have read she did something on a phone that was against policy and that meant the teacher should get to take her phone (whether for the period, school day, or whenever) and when she refused to comply to what could be seen as arbitrary "policy" they then escalated the situation and involved a violent person who thinks his badge allows him to assualt and batter a person.

If anything our schools should be teaching children to be free thinkers. Question arbitrary rules and authority. That is what education is about. If we all start just goose stepping with whatever policy is written we are in deep trouble as a nation.

Reasoning doesn't appear to be an option anymore. It seems to be immediate compliance or else.

BBM After reading some of these commentts, it would appear that no, no one is responsible for their acttions. I'm floored some think it's ok for this sttudent to behave thatt way. I don't agree with the degree of force, but as someone else said what is he supposed tto do? You can't reason with this person obviously so why the hell would it be suggested to remove everyone from class and talk to her. Who is gonna get through to her?



He's a school resource officer, his job is IN THE SCHOOL. Where my kids go tto school this is their 9-5 job.

MOO

 

[bluesneakers]

Surprise, surprise.

South Carolina Sheriff's Deputy With a History of Violence Placed on Leave After Brutal Arrest at High School

In 2005, as a rookie, Fields brutally arrested an Army medic, Thomas Martin, stationed at Fort Jackson, South Carolina, while he was still in uniform. “I recognized him on the spot. I remembered how big he was,” the 10-year Army veteran told the New York Daily News, after seeing the video of Fields arresting the high school student Monday. During their confrontation, Fields “snapped” after Martin called him “dude,” forcing him to the ground and emptying a can of pepper spray on him.

A civil rights violations lawsuit filed against Fields only to be dismissed over difficulties proving excessive force. “I felt like if he had felt the consequences from 2005, this wouldn’t happen today,” Martin’s wife, Rogers, said.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

I have seen no evidence this student was reasoned with. From what I have read she did something on a phone that was against policy and that meant the teacher should get to take her phone (whether for the period, school day, or whenever) and when she refused to comply to what could be seen as arbitrary "policy" they then escalated the situation and involved a violent person who thinks his badge allows him to assualt and batter a person.

If anything our schools should be teaching children to be free thinkers. Question arbitrary rules and authority. That is what education is about. If we all start just goose stepping with whatever policy is written we are in deep trouble as a nation.

Reasoning doesn't appear to be an option anymore. It seems to be immediate compliance or else.

regardless if it's an arbitrary policy, it's a policy. Period.

My kids schools make the students PAY a $15 fine to get their phone back after the third offense. I'm fine with that. If my kids are going to be litttle a$$holes and not follow rules, arbitrary or not, they are going to have to deal with the consequences.

And sorry, but I'm lmao at reasoning with someoe this obviously entitled and defiant.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

In my opinion 100% of the blame for this situation is on the student. Her actions alone caused it. If she had not broken the rules and followed the teachers orders she would not have been taken down by the officer.

 

[vestigare]

In my opinion 100% of the blame for this situation is on the student. Her actions alone caused it. If she had not broken the rules and followed the teachers orders she would not have been taken down by the officer.

Oh by all means just do what they say or be brutally assaulted.

 

[DexterMorgan]

We need to remember that the teacher could have access all of her personal emails and texts when taking her phone. A phone is more private than it use to be. She could have had pictures on there or whatever. So a teacher should rarely ask for the phone because most people will object immediately. Jmo

 

[Woodland]

I'm floored some think it's ok for this sttudent to behave thatt way.

Is it possible to point out a post where that has been said?

 

[vestigare]

"It is policy" is never a legal defense.

regardless if it's an arbitrary policy, it's a policy. Period.

My kids schools make the students PAY a $15 fine to get their phone back after the third offense. I'm fine with that. If my kids are going to be litttle a$$holes and not follow rules, arbitrary or not, they are going to have to deal with the consequences.

And sorry, but I'm lmao at reasoning with someoe this obviously entitled and defiant.

 

[bluesneakers]

In my opinion 100% of the blame for this situation is on the student. Her actions alone caused it. If she had not broken the rules and followed the teachers orders she would not have been taken down by the officer.

So the grown man, the professional, the public servant, is not responsible for his own actions. Got it.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

South Carolina sheriff's deputy on leave after dragging student from her desk

Fields has a history of alleged aggression during arrests. According to federal court papers a man named Carlos Martin sued Fields for pepper spraying him and roughing up his wife after he pulled his car into a parking lot playing loud music. The suit ended in Fields’s favor.

In a second federal suit a high school student named Ashton James Reese is suing Fields for allegedly falsely accusing him of being in a gang. In court papers Reese’s attorney claims Fields “recklessly targets African American students with allegations of gang membership and criminal gang activity”. That suit is pending.

BBM

The first suit ended in Field's favor so I'm not seeing how it proves anything. The second suit doesn't sound like any kind of violence was involved.

Overall some pretty weak evidence in my opinion.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...er-forceful-classroom-arrest?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

[Deleted member 39678]

So the grown man, the professional, the public servant, is not responsible for his own actions. Got it.

The way I see it he was just doing his job.

 

[sonjay]

You call that removing her from class? The girl almost broke her fregging neck. They could have had her parents simply come get her from one of her classes. And then expelled her on the way out.

But attempting to decapitate her or break her neck should not have been attempted. Jmo.

Nobody attempted to decapitate her or break her neck. Why the need for such extreme exaggeration? Is there maybe a little smidgen of doubt that it was all that bad, or that maybe it was even justified? It has to be painted as an attempt to decapitate her?

She could have left under her own power. She refused. How do you remove someone who refuses to leave? You remove them by force. That's what the officer did.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Nobody attempted to decapitate her or break her neck. Why the need for such extreme exaggeration? Is there maybe a little smidgen of doubt that it was all that bad, or that maybe it was even justified? It has to be painted as an attempt to decapitate her?

She could have left under her own power. She refused. How do you remove someone who refuses to leave? You remove them by force. That's what the officer did.

Once again.

I would have let the student have her merry way while smiling due to the expulsion that I have yet to tell her or her parents about until she is off school grounds.*

Btw. I would have made the call while sipping on margaritas and chuckling at the whole revenge is best served cold thing.*

Lol

 

[sonjay]

You really think this is an efficient use of an officer's time and skills? I get you're trying to defend his actions but I don't understand how anyone thinks calling in cops when students misbehave is an effective way to deal with students, or an ideal use of law enforcement. I doubt people become police officers because they want to beat up kids in school. Shouldn't he be out helping someone, writing speeding tickets, or busting criminals?

JMO.

No, I think it's a terrible waste of LE time and resources to have to deal with defiant and disruptive students, and it's a shame that it's needed.

When the student defies the teacher, the assistant principal and the principal, what's next? Yes, at some point it becomes an issue for LE to deal with, and this disruptive and defiant student took it to that point herself, all on her own.

The police officer was helping He was helping a teacher, assistant principal and principal regain control of a classroom from a defiant and disruptive student.

 

[formerjerseygirl]

http://wspa.com/2015/10/27/deputy-in-school-video-cleared-in-previous-battery-lawsuit/

 

[vestigare]

the interesting part of this is had the students father done this to her because she refused to get off her phone and go to bed, he would have been arrested for child abuse.

 

[sonjay]

Once again.

I would have let the student have her merry way while smiling due to the expulsion that I have yet to tell her or her parents about until she is off school grounds.*

Btw. I would have made the call while sipping on margaritas and chuckling at the whole revenge is best served cold thing.*

Lol

You wish you could expel her. You can't. You're stuck with her and her constant disruptions and defiance.

 

[vestigare]

The way I see it he was just doing his job.

"Just doing my job" is never a legal defense.