SC - Columbia - Sheriff Slams Female Student to Floor In Class

[LolaMoon08]

I'm still upset and think about some of the outlandish things nuns did to us many, many years ago. Being hit with rulers, verbal abuse, and when I couldn't understand a math problem up front on the blackboard, I was thrown against it and made fun of. We had no cell phones, and we kept quiet because if you went home and said what the nun did, the parent would just figure you were in the wrong, and the nun was right. I know for a fact that I for one didn't feel protected from that behavior. I have no answers for what to do when a student acts up and doesn't listen, but violence IMO is not the answer. I watched the other kids in the room watching this, and what can you do besides sit and watch, I feel bad for them just having to watch that.

My mom, who also had nuns as teachers, would tell me horror stories of the things they would do to students, including herself. And a lot of it was unjustified. They just did it for, what she said, seemed to have been for personal enjoyment.

I have personally witnessed severe abuse of power at the hands of teachers even when I was in school. We didn't have cell phone cameras back then (Beepers were "in"), but I've never been surprised to see, later in life, these same teachers/faculty being arrested for some pretty horrible things.

Having said that...

Should this young woman have been disrupting class? No. Defiant? No. I don't know what was going on in this young woman's life that day (maybe something was going on at home). I don't know if she has a pattern of disruptive/disrespectful behavior. But, the way the officer handled her with such force is not okay.

If a child refuses to leave the toy department in a store, is it okay for a parent to use this kind of force on their child to get them to comply? Nope.

I have a lot of respect for LE. Just not LE like him.

 

[vestigare]

You wish you could expel her. You can't. You're stuck with her and her constant disruptions and defiance.

We have nothing to say she was a constant problem student.
We also don't know if the teacher is a problem.
But either way this was unacceptable.

 

[bluesneakers]

"Just doing my job" is never a legal defense.

Why would he be suspended for doing his job?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Deputy in School Video Cleared In Previous Battery Lawsuit

In 2007, while he was still on patrol, Carlos Martin filed a federal civil suit against Fields, along with Sheriff Leon Lott and another deputy. He says Fields used excessive force, slamming Martin to the ground, kicking him, and spraying him with an entire can of mace. Martin says it was unprovoked. But a federal jury found for Deputy Fields.

BBM

The jury found for Fields. It appears that Mr Martin was unable to convince the jury that Fields used excessive force. JMO


http://wspa.com/2015/10/27/deputy-in-school-video-cleared-in-previous-battery-lawsuit/

 

[katydid23]

I would have let the student have her merry way while smiling due to the expulsion that I have yet to tell her or her parents about until she is off school grounds.

Btw. I would have made the call while sipping on margaritas and chuckling at the whole revenge is best served cold thing.

Lol

A teacher has no power to mete out an expulsion. It is very hard for anyone, even the principal, to expel a student these days. We had a student throw his desk across the room at the teacher and he got a 3 day suspension, no expulsion.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Why would he be suspended for doing his job?

My best guess is because of political pressure. JMO

 

[vestigare]

Why would he be suspended for doing his job?

I have a feeling not only was he not following the law but also not following dept "policy".

His chief should slam him on the ground. ;-)

 

[vestigare]

Deputy in School Video Cleared In Previous Battery Lawsuit



BBM

The jury found for Fields. It appears that Mr Martin was unable to convince the jury that Fields used excessive force. JMO


http://wspa.com/2015/10/27/deputy-in-school-video-cleared-in-previous-battery-lawsuit/

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get a jury today to convict a cop?

 

[sonjay]

We need to remember that the teacher could have access all of her personal emails and texts when taking her phone. A phone is more private than it use to be. She could have had pictures on there or whatever. So a teacher should rarely ask for the phone because most people will object immediately. Jmo

Then she should refrain from using her phone during class, per policy. Very very easy to avoid having her phone confiscated, just as it would have been easy to avoid being taken down by a police officer.

It's all on her. Every bit of it. Every last smidgen of it. It's all on her.

 

[katydid23]

We have nothing to say she was a constant problem student.
We also don't know if the teacher is a problem.
But either way this was unacceptable.

Have you ever known a student to refuse a request by the vice principal for them to leave the class? That is a pretty standard request when there is an issue at hand. She would have walked with him to the office and explained her side of the situation. Defying his request and the teacher's, gives me a clue that she has been a problem before. I worked in the schools fir years. 99% of the students will leave a classroom if asked by a teacher or administrator. They may roll eyes, mutter under breath, etc. But when asked by a principal, let alone a deputy , they would leave the class.

 

[DexterMorgan]

A teacher has no power to mete out an expulsion. It is very hard for anyone, even the principal, to expel a student these days. We had a student throw his desk across the room at the teacher and he got a 3 day suspension, no expulsion.

Back in the day. A student would have been transferred to a tougher school. But it takes time and a bad record for quite awhile.

But almost paralyzing a student should never be an option. Jmo

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Deputy in School Video Cleared In Previous Battery Lawsuit



BBM

The jury found for Fields. It appears that Mr Martin was unable to convince the jury that Fields used excessive force. JMO


http://wspa.com/2015/10/27/deputy-in-school-video-cleared-in-previous-battery-lawsuit/

Then there's this...
Trial is set for January in the case of an expelled student who claims Fields targeted blacks and falsely accused him of being a gang member in 2013.

http://www.witn.com/news/headlines/...tive-student-337606581.html?device=tablet&c=y

 

[sonjay]

Back in the day. A student would have been transferred to a tougher school. But it takes time and a bad record for quite awhile.

But almost paralyzing a student should never be an option. Jmo

BBM. Attempting to decapitate, and now almost paralyzing. The principal said the student was unharmed except for maybe a rug burn. Where are you getting all this decapitating and paralyzing from?

 

[Sulamith]

Nobody attempted to decapitate her or break her neck. Why the need for such extreme exaggeration? Is there maybe a little smidgen of doubt that it was all that bad, or that maybe it was even justified? It has to be painted as an attempt to decapitate her?

She could have left under her own power. She refused. How do you remove someone who refuses to leave? You remove them by force. That's what the officer did.

Thankfully, from reports, it seems that the girl was not seriously injured. BUT, there is such a thing as internal decapitation. Rare, but it happens. Don't go throwing people around. IMO.

 

[vestigare]

Yes, let's ruin a student's opportunity for college by expelling them because some teacher felt disrespected by a cell phone.

Expulsion should be difficult and should come from the board.
Suspension is fairly easy and usually can not be for more than a few days because of legal reasons.

A child in jail will find it difficult to attend school so If a child does something truly criminal in school they need not worry the child wasn't suspended for more days.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Then she should refrain from using her phone during class, per policy. Very very easy to avoid having her phone confiscated, just as it would have been easy to avoid being taken down by a police officer.

It's all on her. Every bit of it. Every last smidgen of it. It's all on her.

What does that have to do with flipping her on her head?

I'm on my phone. Can someone please upload a gif format of the flip. Thanks

 

[katydid23]

Back in the day. A student would have been transferred to a tougher school. But it takes time and a bad record for quite awhile.

But almost paralyzing a student should never be an option. Jmo

Of course he was a bit rough and it does bother me. But I also understand that he was trying to remove her from the classroom, as requested by the principal.

She was way out of line to defy the teacher, the administrator and the cop. She was the one who forced the issue. Why didn't she just let the teacher have her phone until class was over? What is the big deal about that?

 

[sonjay]

Thankfully, from reports, it seems that the girl was not seriously injured. BUT, there is such a thing as internal decapitation. Rare, but it happens. Don't go throwing people around. IMO.

Then don't behave like this entitled disruptive defiant student.

She started it. She could have complied at any point. She defied the teacher, the assistant principal, and the principal, so they called LE, who ended it. He did what needed to be done to remove a defiant and disruptive student from the classroom.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get a jury today to convict a cop?

If there's evidence it shouldn't be a problem. If there's a lack of evidence then plaintiff's will lose. That's probably what happened in Deputy Field's case. JMO

 

[bluesneakers]

Who Is Ben Fields, the Police Officer Filmed Flipping a Spring Valley High School Student?

Updated | The police officer filmed flipping over and dragging a black female student at a South Carolina high school this week has a history of being sued after violent encounters, and as of Tuesday, he is facing an investigation by the FBI and U.S. Department of Justice over the videotaped incident after it went viral online

In addition, Fields is currently facing a suit that will go to trial in January 2016, brought by Ashton James Reese over a February 2013 incident. Lawyers stated in the suit that Fields “recklessly targets African-American students with allegations of gang membership and criminal gang activity.”

http://www.newsweek.com/who-ben-fie...med-flipping-spring-valley-high-school-387757