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GUILTY SC - Devean, 2, & Ja'van Duley, 18 mos, dead in submerged car, Orangeburg, Aug 2010
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I agree.
AMEN!
While watching JVM tonight they were talking about how the
couldn't afford to take care of them. Well, I looked at the and it doesn't look like she missed a sandwich lately. We're in a single income home, and our son always comes first. But trust me, DH and I always manage to make something out of nothing.
There were resources out there for her -- no doubt (welfare, etc). I think it's just an excuse, and she was really getting back at her mom.
MOOOOOO
Mel
picture of perp here: http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=150357&provider=top
Nancy Grace is discussing the case tonight.
Ahh...keep us posted. I turned it on and she was still yapping about Fantasia (as if I could care). So I turned it off...
Sorry to get OT.
Mel
Sorry I didn't take notes but Sue Moss and Daniel Horowitz were both on so I think you can imagine......and needless to say NG is outraged.
There should be a transcript later!
We all view life thru our own experiences, i'm not saying you can't educate yourself or make changes.
Children are gifts, they are not your possesion nor is it right to play god and take their life.
But Grandma had an adult child, whom she dos'nt think much of. Thats a communication thing it did'nt just start - the babys just ammunition. If Grandma cared she would of/could of contacted the appropiate services, not booted them to the curb. Grandma's just waiting for her daughter to fall - just so she can say - I told you so.
Abuse is a chain, I broke it, i was the goverments shining star, then i conntacted my parents. 10 years of work trashed within an hour.
What this woman did is horrible but i do understand in a very sad way.
But i do not see it as like Casey Anthony case.
Children could be taught in school this is ok thats not and parenting classes cause most will be parents.
Its not so easy to get help, i was a very negligent mom its what i knew. I begged them to take my child i'm just lucky i moved to the country. In the city i would never of got the support - just one of many.
Some abusers are just dirt - but this girl just sad life and ignorant of what life could be.
jmo moo
Children are gifts, they are not your possesion nor is it right to play god and take their life.
But Grandma had an adult child, whom she dos'nt think much of. Thats a communication thing it did'nt just start - the babys just ammunition. If Grandma cared she would of/could of contacted the appropiate services, not booted them to the curb. Grandma's just waiting for her daughter to fall - just so she can say - I told you so.
Abuse is a chain, I broke it, i was the goverments shining star, then i conntacted my parents. 10 years of work trashed within an hour.
What this woman did is horrible but i do understand in a very sad way.
But i do not see it as like Casey Anthony case.
Children could be taught in school this is ok thats not and parenting classes cause most will be parents.
Its not so easy to get help, i was a very negligent mom its what i knew. I begged them to take my child i'm just lucky i moved to the country. In the city i would never of got the support - just one of many.
Some abusers are just dirt - but this girl just sad life and ignorant of what life could be.
jmo moo
oh yea, the fat thing. When going to food banks the basics are - raman noodles, kraft dinner, bread, bulk stuff - in poor house holds same thing. Being poor made me fat, i look like poor. i never thought i would have this life, i looked down on people. live and learn.
I missed the news conf, I guess there will be a video of it later ?
Hopefully this
SC has death penalty and this case shows premeditation, intent to kill. Seems to me DA will go for DP, can't see why he wouldn't.
In SC is possible to qualify for most anything. I would bet kids were in daycare because she just didn't want to be bothered up with them.
Nao - I'm so sorry. I didn't mean for you to take my post personally. I remember the days when gran had to go to the foodbank, and rec'd such necessities. She was raising 4 boys and didn't have a minute to sit down. The boys were lucky to get what they could. Live and learn is right.
I'm sorry for what you've been through - it sounds like a rough road. From your earlier post, you must have an incredible spirit, and I'm glad you're here to share.
Hugs,
Mel
n SC is possible to qualify for most anything. I would bet kids were in daycare because she just didn't want to be bothered up with them.
__________________I can't believe you even said that, she wrote letters saying she thought the day care was good. -like real socialization, like theres a life beyond, like hope.
I think you should be able to drop off your child somewhere, but they call it abandoment
moo jmo
__________________I can't believe you even said that, she wrote letters saying she thought the day care was good. -like real socialization, like theres a life beyond, like hope.
I think you should be able to drop off your child somewhere, but they call it abandoment
moo jmo
911 Tape released:
A South Carolina woman accused of suffocating her children before strapping them into a car and pushing it into a river is scheduled to make her first court appearance Wednesday.
Shaquan Duley faces two counts of murder in the deaths of her two toddler sons, the Orangeburg County sheriff said. Police identified the dead children as *******, age 1, and *********, 2.
It wasn't immediately known whether Duley had retained an attorney prior to her arraignment.
link:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/18/south.carolina.children.deaths/index.html?hpt=T1
A South Carolina woman accused of suffocating her children before strapping them into a car and pushing it into a river is scheduled to make her first court appearance Wednesday.
Shaquan Duley faces two counts of murder in the deaths of her two toddler sons, the Orangeburg County sheriff said. Police identified the dead children as *******, age 1, and *********, 2.
It wasn't immediately known whether Duley had retained an attorney prior to her arraignment.
link:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/18/south.carolina.children.deaths/index.html?hpt=T1
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Right ,and lets not forget that she has a little college at least and she is not a young girl at 29 she is very capable of being a grown up and taking care of her children. Her first daughter was born when this woman was 24.
She seemed to avoid unwanted children before the age of 24. The not knowing about birth control is not going to work. She was living with her parents for awhile so not affording them is a non issue as well because She had free child care so not working is her own fault and there are shelters that help woman with children get on their feet. Most people who work the system and get free child care also know the faster way into a low income home is though a shelter.As hard as it all may sound..it seems it would have been much easier then killing her babies.
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(CNN) -- A South Carolina woman accused of suffocating her children before strapping them into a car and pushing it into a river is scheduled to make her first court appearance Wednesday.
Shaquan Duley faces two counts of murder in the deaths of her two toddler sons, the Orangeburg County sheriff said. Police identified the dead children as XXXXXXXXX, age 1, and XXXXXXX, 2.
It wasn't immediately known whether Duley had retained an attorney prior to her arraignment.
Investigators said Duley, 29, was unemployed, single and apparently fed up with criticism from her mother when she allegedly smothered her children, strapped their lifeless bodies into car seats and submerged her car in a river.
Meanwhile, officials released 911 calls from witnesses.
Video: Official: Kids dead before car sank
Video: Why do parents kill their kids?
Video: Police: Mom admits to killing sons
South Carolina
Shaquan Duley
Murder and Homicide
Susan Smith
"A car ran in the pond and got kids in there," one caller said. "We need help fast, please."
Orangeburg County Sheriff Larry Williams told reporters Duley had no means of taking care of her children.
"She lives with her mother, and her mother was a very, I guess, firm individual," Williams said. "She often talked with her daughter about, I guess, maybe being more of a mother or being more reliable."
Mother and daughter argued the night before the children's bodies were found early Monday in Duley's Chrysler sedan, Williams said.
"We believe this is a direct response (to the argument) from Ms. Duley," he said. "I believe she was just fed up with her mother telling her she couldn't take care of the children, and she wasn't taking care of her children, and she just wanted to be free."
911 call and videos at link:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/18/south.carolina.children.deaths/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn
I just don't understand WHY mothers like this will not give their children a chance at life. She could have just handed those children over to grandma. Grandma could've called CPS and asked for help for her grandchildren, you don't throw them to the wolves...:furious:
Rest In Peace little ones...
Shaquan Duley faces two counts of murder in the deaths of her two toddler sons, the Orangeburg County sheriff said. Police identified the dead children as XXXXXXXXX, age 1, and XXXXXXX, 2.
It wasn't immediately known whether Duley had retained an attorney prior to her arraignment.
Investigators said Duley, 29, was unemployed, single and apparently fed up with criticism from her mother when she allegedly smothered her children, strapped their lifeless bodies into car seats and submerged her car in a river.
Meanwhile, officials released 911 calls from witnesses.
Video: Official: Kids dead before car sank
Video: Why do parents kill their kids?
Video: Police: Mom admits to killing sons
South Carolina
Shaquan Duley
Murder and Homicide
Susan Smith
"A car ran in the pond and got kids in there," one caller said. "We need help fast, please."
Orangeburg County Sheriff Larry Williams told reporters Duley had no means of taking care of her children.
"She lives with her mother, and her mother was a very, I guess, firm individual," Williams said. "She often talked with her daughter about, I guess, maybe being more of a mother or being more reliable."
Mother and daughter argued the night before the children's bodies were found early Monday in Duley's Chrysler sedan, Williams said.
"We believe this is a direct response (to the argument) from Ms. Duley," he said. "I believe she was just fed up with her mother telling her she couldn't take care of the children, and she wasn't taking care of her children, and she just wanted to be free."
911 call and videos at link:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/18/south.carolina.children.deaths/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn
I just don't understand WHY mothers like this will not give their children a chance at life. She could have just handed those children over to grandma. Grandma could've called CPS and asked for help for her grandchildren, you don't throw them to the wolves...:furious:
Rest In Peace little ones...
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With pictures of the boys FTA: "Though authorities say that Shaquan Duley confessed to smothering her children with her bare hands before staging the incident, her attorney says she will enter a non-guilty plea today." http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=8950
FTA: "Though authorities say that Shaquan Duley confessed to smothering her children with her bare hands before staging the incident, her attorney says she will enter a non-guilty plea today." http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=8950Shaquan Duley Appears in Court on Charges of Killing Her Children
Orangeburg, SC (WLTX) - Shaquan Duley, an Orangeburg woman accused of killing her two young sons, made her first court apperance Wednesday afternoon before a magistrate.
The judge read Duley the official charges against her.
Shaquan Duley faces two murder charges in the death of her two sons, 18-month-old ***** Duley and 2-year-old ****** Duley.
Members of Shaquan's family were at the hearing.
Her attorney, Carl Grant, told reporters outside the hearing that Shaquan was remorseful, and that she had been speaking with a minister. Grant says she deserves the presumption of innocence, and that all the facts have not been presented.
more at http://www.wltx.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=94504&catid=2
Orangeburg, SC (WLTX) - Shaquan Duley, an Orangeburg woman accused of killing her two young sons, made her first court apperance Wednesday afternoon before a magistrate.
The judge read Duley the official charges against her.
Shaquan Duley faces two murder charges in the death of her two sons, 18-month-old ***** Duley and 2-year-old ****** Duley.
Members of Shaquan's family were at the hearing.
Her attorney, Carl Grant, told reporters outside the hearing that Shaquan was remorseful, and that she had been speaking with a minister. Grant says she deserves the presumption of innocence, and that all the facts have not been presented.
more at http://www.wltx.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=94504&catid=2
Susan Smith prosecutor: Duley case 'brings it all back'
(excerpt)
"Tommy Pope, the prosecutor who put Smith in prison, told CNN's Kyra Phillips on Wednesday that his first thought, upon hearing about the Duley case, was "Here we go again."
"It's become all too frequent over the years, but it brings it all back," he said."
article at http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/18/south.carolina.smith/
(excerpt)
"Tommy Pope, the prosecutor who put Smith in prison, told CNN's Kyra Phillips on Wednesday that his first thought, upon hearing about the Duley case, was "Here we go again."
"It's become all too frequent over the years, but it brings it all back," he said."
article at http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/18/south.carolina.smith/
Thank you for bringing that article here. Those are the first pictures i've seen of those precious little baby boys. What a shame.
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