Found Deceased SC - Faye Marie Swetlik, 6, Cayce, 10 Feb 2020 #5

[boomburger]

Why do people keep suggesting this graphic horror with absolutely zero evidence? As though his favorite sidekick was a soup ladle that he carried around for days.

It’s much more likely he suddenly decided he needed to dig and he found the only metal spade-like item in the house. You might as well say “I shudder to think of what he might’ve done with a toilet plunger” or something Else based on zero evidence

Yeah I agree. The ladle was used by a desperate man needing to bury someone who didn't have a shovel.

 

[PommyMommy]

FEB 19, 2020
#RocksForFaye: Free community art event dedicated to keeping Faye Swetlik’s memory alive
[...]

The event will be held Feb. 21-23. On Feb. 20-21 from 3 p.m. to 6:30 p.m., 70 after-school children will participate in cleaning and painting river rocks for Faye at Art Smart Academy.

Art Smart Academy is also inviting community members to help paint the thousands of rocks donated for the #RocksForFaye cause Feb. 21-23 from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m.

[...]

A Facebook group, Rocks For Faye, was created on Valentine’s Day by friends of Faye’s family and has over 2,000 members, some as far away as Ireland. The idea of this group and the event was inspired by Faye’s love of collecting and painting rocks.

“Faye came to our studio several times to paint. She loved art and we are honored to host a location for a gathering of love to support her family,” said Katherine Fix, owner of Art Smart Academy.

[...]

 

[boomburger]

Is LE required by law to disclose details of the murder to Coty's family? I imagine they are in a total state of disbelief (unless there's a lot of stuff we don't know about).

This is the first case I've followed where someone has been found guilty without a trial; it just leaves me feeling unsettled. I hope LE comes back in the near future and answers some of the many questions still lingering in this case.

Police found Faye's DNA at his house, as well as Coty's DNA on Faye's body, whatever that DNA may have been (skin cells, blood, semen etc ) and that is hugely telling and if he were alive they'd have charged him with murder and I'd imagine a jury would have no trouble finding this man guilty. There was than enough evidence to suggest he was involved.

 

[bestill]

I keep thinking of Faye most likely hearing her family and LE calling for her. CT really only had a short window of time before Faye was being looked for. That pressure had to be working on him. IMO

 

[FrostedGlass]

Police found Faye's DNA at his house, as well as Coty's DNA on Faye's body, whatever that DNA may have been (skin cells, blood, semen etc ) and that is hugely telling and if he were alive they'd have charged him with murder and I'd imagine a jury would have no trouble finding this man guilty. There was than enough evidence to suggest he was involved.

I read that and I accept that he killed her. But it just feels odd.

 

[sf618b]

I keep thinking of Faye most likely hearing her family and LE calling for her. CT really only had a short window of time before Faye was being looked for. That pressure had to be working on him. IMO

That is so horrible to even think about. That she could possibly hear them. That she asked to go home.

 

[mrsu]

Please continue discussion here.

ADMIN NOTE:

IMPORTANT !!

No more discussion of social media accounts in relation to CT until a member can provide information that substantiates the accounts do in fact belong to CT of Cayce, SC who is the person known to be responsible for Faye's homicide.

Please read my post in the previous thread.

The accounts may belong to him but we have to know 100% that we have the right individual.

The accounts were verified in that someone who follows him on one of the accounts has a certain user name. A person of that particular user name was also friends with him on Facebook. In addition, Reddit posts from his account talk about “just turning 30” and South Carolina.

@sillybilly I messaged you.

 

[NEL10]

@Seattle1 Thanks for your info on my post in the last thread about his court records. It makes sense that the car was put up for sale. What I think it was important in showing was that however it was done, he had his car sold in July 2019 and we don’t know if he had another one or if he did possibly have a moped still. The ticket from 2013 shows he did have one in the past, so at the very least he was familiar with them. I have seen unverified comments on social media from someone who lives in the apartments who said he had a moped. Again, no way of knowing for sure but if he didn’t have a car, that certainly changes the possibilities of where he could have had her and what he might have done. I personally do not think that a car was involved in abducting her. This will most likely get deleted but Faye’s across the street neighbor commented on a FB post that the elderly lady that Faye visits lives in that area and that she is deaf and did not hear her knock on the door. (Which confirms what we heard earlier about Faye often spending time with an elderly woman in the neighborhood). I believe that Faye was over in that area and CT had probably seen her over there previously visiting the elderly lady and maybe invited her in when the lady didn’t answer the door. Simplest explanation and makes the most sense.

This absolutely makes the most sense. He wouldn’t have needed to worry about how to get her from her home to his home without being seen. He had his “opportunity”.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Is LE required by law to disclose details of the murder to Coty's family? I imagine they are in a total state of disbelief (unless there's a lot of stuff we don't know about).

This is the first case I've followed where someone has been found guilty without a trial; it just leaves me feeling unsettled. I hope LE comes back in the near future and answers some of the many questions still lingering in this case.

There are many murder-suicide cases every year, those aren't resolved by trial.

A recent suicide case followed here (F. Dulos) involved conspiracy charges against two others. IIRC, those who were involved with the Perp will still answer those charges.

I understand where you're coming from, but I personally think LE informed CT's family of any/all evidence against him and I hope they are satisfied.

JMO

 

[MsBetsy]

Is LE required by law to disclose details of the murder to Coty's family? I imagine they are in a total state of disbelief (unless there's a lot of stuff we don't know about).

This is the first case I've followed where someone has been found guilty without a trial; it just leaves me feeling unsettled. I hope LE comes back in the near future and answers some of the many questions still lingering in this case.

It is still an active investigation. I don't think they will reveal any more details about the murder, but they might be looking into whether or not the perp was involved in any other crimes or gathering evidence to better understand what led to this horrible crime. Sometimes they use the information for research and statistics.

As far as the family goes, I guess it depends on how much they want to know. They have access to the autopsy report so they probably have details that the public will never know. Jmo

 

[LittleBitty]

That is so horrible to even think about. That she could possibly hear them. That she asked to go home.

It is heartbreaking to think of the last moments of her life. nothing that we could offer could give Faye’s loved ones any type of peace on that. It makes me angry and sad.

I keep thinking of that case from Florida, Jessica Lunsford and the perp John Couey. How he kidnapped her from her home and kept her all weekend while raping her and forcing her to stay in a closet and finally put her in garbage bags and buried her alive. That’s an old case but he was staying with a neighbor and was basically right next door with the girl while LE was searching.

I can’t pretend I will ever understand the impulse to kidnap and murder (possibly sexually assault) a 6 year old child. Like many of you I am only interested in learning about ways to prevent this from happening. And that largely seems like a tall task given we can’t put non-offenders on some kind of watch list or minority report them.

I think about Polly Klass, also kidnapped from her own house. Nothing was done wrong there. Nothing was done wrong here. Children should be allowed to walk home from the bus. Play in their yard. Their neighborhood without being accosted by some sick predator.

I think it was extremely telling that LE refused to address CT by name and only released the results of his autopsy after the presser for Faye. They were and are torn up by this and I don’t doubt that they have the right person. They would not rest until they had her killer. It’s unfortunate that he took his own life in some ways in that we will not have a trial and he won’t have to face justice.

the DNA was beyond telling as was the meager description of how Faye was killed. No statement on the condition of her body. Just DNA linking her and CT found in CT home and other crime scene. I think that is very telling. I am not sure people who aren’t convinced he did it would actually be convinced if his DNA was found inside the poor girl or likely was found in. If taking a ten year old picture from high school leads people to be unsure about this person, I can’t sway that opinion.
I was here and am here for Justice for Faye and all victims. CT is not a victim. He is the sole perpetrator of Faye’s murder. As such, his reputation means nothing to me. Outside of possibly learning if he left clues and signals throughout the last ten plus years that society or family ignored that could have possibly prevented this.

 

[auggieandchip]

I think the general public as whole needs to understand that if the family had wanted the details out, they would have released them. I am fairly certain that they were asked what they would like released and they declined to release any other details other than what was released. We need to stop asking for them. It is truly NONE of our business as the general public. MOO

 

[Cloudydiamond]

It is heartbreaking to think of the last moments of her life. nothing that we could offer could give Faye’s loved ones any type of peace on that. It makes me angry and sad.

I keep thinking of that case from Florida, Jessica Lunsford and the perp John Couey. How he kidnapped her from her home and kept her all weekend while raping her and forcing her to stay in a closet and finally put her in garbage bags and buried her alive. That’s an old case but he was staying with a neighbor and was basically right next door with the girl while LE was searching.

I can’t pretend I will ever understand the impulse to kidnap and murder (possibly sexually assault) a 6 year old child. Like many of you I am only interested in learning about ways to prevent this from happening. And that largely seems like a tall task given we can’t put non-offenders on some kind of watch list or minority report them.

I think about Polly Klass, also kidnapped from her own house. Nothing was done wrong there. Nothing was done wrong here. Children should be allowed to walk home from the bus. Play in their yard. Their neighborhood without being accosted by some sick predator.

I think it was extremely telling that LE refused to address CT by name and only released the results of his autopsy after the presser for Faye. They were and are torn up by this and I don’t doubt that they have the right person. They would not rest until they had her killer. It’s unfortunate that he took his own life in some ways in that we will not have a trial and he won’t have to face justice.

the DNA was beyond telling as was the meager description of how Faye was killed. No statement on the condition of her body. Just DNA linking her and CT found in CT home and other crime scene. I think that is very telling. I am not sure people who aren’t convinced he did it would actually be convinced if his DNA was found inside the poor girl or likely was found in. If taking a ten year old picture from high school leads people to be unsure about this person, I can’t sway that opinion.
I was here and am here for Justice for Faye and all victims. CT is not a victim. He is the sole perpetrator of Faye’s murder. As such, his reputation means nothing to me. Outside of possibly learning if he left clues and signals throughout the last ten plus years that society or family ignored that could have possibly prevented this.

I would bet there were clues. There were MANY clues prior to Adam Lanza's shooting spree.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Police found Faye's DNA at his house, as well as Coty's DNA on Faye's body, whatever that DNA may have been (skin cells, blood, semen etc ) and that is hugely telling and if he were alive they'd have charged him with murder and I'd imagine a jury would have no trouble finding this man guilty. There was than enough evidence to suggest he was involved.

Ita! Morning Boom, and all!

Iirc, SC is also a death penalty state. He knew when caught he would be sentenced to the harshest penalty allowed under SC law.

I can't remember one case at the moment where a stranger pedophile abducted, raped, and murdered an innocent child who did not receive the death penalty in states who have it... if it went before 12 jurors at trial.

I don't think there is more serious violent crimes than what he did against little Faye.

To do this to the most vulnerable, and innocent in our society causes everyone's passions, and anger to rise to fever pitch. Rightfully so.

CT knew he would have a bullseye on his back when he went to prison. He would be among the worst of the worst who would have nothing to lose by taking him out.

While those on death row or locked up in a maximum security prison are there for doing heinous violent murders they still detest child rapists, and child murderers. It's because many of the ruthless offenders have children of their own. It's like those in the Mafia. Most were known as good protective fathers to their children yet had no qualms about killing many others without blinking an eye.

Imo, that's why CT chose the easy way out.

I've always found it quite revealing how murderers like CT show they are really cowards.

They will kill their victims in the most sadistic torturous ways.. whether adult victims or precious children, yet when it comes to their own worthless lives they are scared to death about what will happen to THEM.

Look at how many have murdered in horrific ways, yet will want a plea deal if the DAs take the death penalty off of the table or if given the DP they will try ever appeal in the book so they wont be put to death.

It shows they do not place any human value on their many innocent victims, and it's all about themselves, and saving their own lives.

In the states who have the DP as an option it has been one of the best tools LE, and DAs have.

Many devastated families didnt have to endure hearing, and seeing what the offenders did to their loved ones because the murderers opted to plead guilty if their own life was/is spared.

CT felt in total power, and control over little Faye, but he knew if he didn't cowardly off himself he wouldnt have any power, and control afterwards. He was too scared to face what he knew was coming.

He will still be forever known as being one of the worst of the worst among us all.

No one will ever forget little Faye, and WHO took her precious short life away.

Jmho

 

[FrostedGlass]

I think the general public as whole needs to understand that if the family had wanted the details out, they would have released them. I am fairly certain that they were asked what they would like released and they declined to release any other details other than what was released. We need to stop asking for them. It is truly NONE of our business as the general public. MOO

I'm from Indiana; our laws are different. I'll try to keep that in mind when I'm following cases from other states.

 

[LittleBitty]

I would bet there were clues. There were MANY clues prior to Adam Lanza's shooting spree.

I imagine there are clues. What those are and how many I hope will come to light if for no other reason than perhaps it might save another child’s life.

ITA with everyone on the autopsy, condition Faye’s body was found and where and what type of DNA was found.
I have never seen such an emotional presser honestly. The care they took with Faye, she might have been a fallen fellow officer. From the motorcade to the refusing to say CT’s name, to the measured way they simply said her COD was homicide by asphyxiation with no further details.
What’s scary is we all cover these cases and largely are finding out we mostly only have a few hours from the time a child goes missing. Obviously, no case is the same. But the vast majority of them are assaulted and murdered within a few short hours of being taken. And that’s scary. That means that unless you are there to prevent a kidnapping or are able to follow the perp and get LE involved from that point...there is nothing UNLESS in this case CT had been known to LE or they should have known about him somehow. And even then would they have been able to kick down his door and get there before Faye was killed?
I agree that shutting down the neighborhood (much like what happened with the Boston Bomber case) is what caught CT or caused him to do things that would get him caught. You hardly see a community shut down like that and it worked in the sense that the perp was from the community. Living right there.


I had a thought on perhaps where he might have kept her. I have no clue about the townhome/apartment other than pictures posted online but does anyone know if the back patio/porch or whatever has a storage closet in it. Most apartments I have ever loved including a town home had a storage closet on the balcony or patio itself where people would store equipment or luggage or cleaning items. And it can be locked with a key. Not sure if 602 Piccadilly had that kind of storage closet or not. But it seems like a place he might have kept her. Until he moved her.

 

[NEL10]

I completely agree.
Unfortunately the police are so busy with actual crimes that happen daily, that there isn’t enough time to handle things that are merely suspicious. I live in NYC and once saw a man hanging out outside of a playground that my child and I were at. He was there for a while but wasn’t doing anything strange, so I left and went to a different playground because I’m a safety Sadie but didn’t call the police (in nyc there are always people walking by playgrounds without children because playgrounds are literally on the streets with millions of people walking by daily). Well about 20 minutes after we got to the other playground (the other playground was about 10 blocks away) the SAME man appeared outside of the gates of the playground, who was now holding a large camera. He was watching the children closely. I called the police and was told that unless the man was inside of the playground, there was nothing they could do as there is nothing illegal about hanging around outside of the playground. It’s illegal for an adult to be in a playground unless they have a child with them, but outside of the playground is fine. Ridiculous, IMO.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I think the general public as whole needs to understand that if the family had wanted the details out, they would have released them. I am fairly certain that they were asked what they would like released and they declined to release any other details other than what was released. We need to stop asking for them. It is truly NONE of our business as the general public. MOO

I truly hope no one is asking them.

I saw a ID show awhile back, and the father of a murdered child said he knew generally what the murderer had done to his son, but it took him, and his wife months before they could read the autopsy report.

He said at times they both wish they had never opened it, and read it. He said it was only then they knew how much their innocent little son had suffered at the hands of his raping murdering pedophile.

To this day I think about Steve Greone, and how he said he finally watched all of the video Joe Duncan had taken for 7 weeks showing all of the daily tortures, and rapes of little Shasta, and Dylan including him murdering Dylan. He said it was the hardest thing he had do ever do.

They asked Steve how he could do it. Steve said if his own children had to endure all of it, he owed it to them both to have the courage to know what they both went through.

In JED federal case the FBI prosecutor said the video tape must never been seen by anyone in the public.

The FBI have made sure it's in a top level secure location. The only ones who have ever seen it are the investigators, DA, Shasta, Steve, and the sadist pedophile kidnapper, serial rapists, and serial murderer, JED..the monster who took it.

Jmho

 

[Cloudydiamond]

I imagine there are clues. What those are and how many I hope will come to light if for no other reason than perhaps it might save another child’s life.

ITA with everyone on the autopsy, condition Faye’s body was found and where and what type of DNA was found.
I have never seen such an emotional presser honestly. The care they took with Faye, she might have been a fallen fellow officer. From the motorcade to the refusing to say CT’s name, to the measured way they simply said her COD was homicide by asphyxiation with no further details.
What’s scary is we all cover these cases and largely are finding out we mostly only have a few hours from the time a child goes missing. Obviously, no case is the same. But the vast majority of them are assaulted and murdered within a few short hours of being taken. And that’s scary. That means that unless you are there to prevent a kidnapping or are able to follow the perp and get LE involved from that point...there is nothing UNLESS in this case CT had been known to LE or they should have known about him somehow. And even then would they have been able to kick down his door and get there before Faye was killed?
I agree that shutting down the neighborhood (much like what happened with the Boston Bomber case) is what caught CT or caused him to do things that would get him caught. You hardly see a community shut down like that and it worked in the sense that the perp was from the community. Living right there.


I had a thought on perhaps where he might have kept her. I have no clue about the townhome/apartment other than pictures posted online but does anyone know if the back patio/porch or whatever has a storage closet in it. Most apartments I have ever loved including a town home had a storage closet on the balcony or patio itself where people would store equipment or luggage or cleaning items. And it can be locked with a key. Not sure if 602 Piccadilly had that kind of storage closet or not. But it seems like a place he might have kept her. Until he moved her.

I moved from CT to SC. Most homes/apts/condos are built on slabs in SC. (Due to clay soil). There are few homes with basements. My current townhouse has a storage unit located in the back of the unit. This can very well be. Edited to add in SC.

 

[Meloni88]

What do they mean when they say the neighbourhood was on lockdown? No one was allowed out for all those days or they just searched your vehicle before you could leave?