GUILTY SC - Five Jones children, ages 1-8, Lexington County, 28 Aug 2014 *Father Arrested*

  • #661
Strong closing by the State. I'm glad he defended Amber, and that he made plain Jones' malice that night (and beyond) was very much also directed at her.
 
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Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 22m22 minutes ago
Hubbard, "No child suffered more than Nahtahn... he had a bullseye on him" then shows jury photos of bruises on the six year old #TimothyJones #TimothyJonesTrial @wachfox


Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 18m18 minutes ago
Hubbard, "That man looked into her eyes and choked her as she said 'Daddy. I love you.'" @wachfox #TimothyJonesTrial #TimothyJones


Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 13m13 minutes ago
Hubbard, "He left them out there for wild animals... he left his kids out there in bags… they looked like garbage…" #TimothyJones #TimothyJonesTrial @wachfox


Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 8m8 minutes ago
Hubbard, "Today I'm speaking for five little babies... They didn't deserve this.. they deserve justice." #TimothyJones #TimothyJonesTrial @wachfox Hubbard's closing argument lasted an hour and ten minutes.
 
  • #663
Somehow missed these tweets:

Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 1h1 hour ago
"There’s no schizophrenia, there’s no schizoaffective disorder...he’s trying to make himself look mentally ill," Solicitor Hubbard tells the jury in closing arguments.


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 1h1 hour ago
Solicitor Hubbard points to the passport found in Jones' car and his plans to head to the Mexican border, like he told a psychiatrist. "His kids are dead in the backseat of his car and he's shopping in Walmart looking for supplies to get rid of the evidence." @wis10


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 1h1 hour ago
Here's a look inside the courtroom this morning. Closing arguments are underway now. @wis10

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Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 1h1 hour ago
Solicitor Hubbard points to a defense psychiatrist who testified Jones didn't know exercising Nahtahn and his subsequent death was legally wrong--but reminds the jury DSS had told Jones he wasn't allowed to touch the children. @wis10


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 1h1 hour ago
"When he picked up his phone and chose not to call 911, I know what the law is and I know I'm in trouble," Hubbard says."The worst of the worst know killing your babies is obscene, outrageous and absolutely morally unacceptable. Jones did that in a matter of a seconds.” @wis10


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 46m46 minutes ago
Solicitor Hubbard has been giving closing arguments for an hour now: "Tim Jones may love his family but there's someone he loves more, Tim Jones." @wis10


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 44m44 minutes ago
Solicitor Hubbard walks the jury through the moments when Tim Jones killed his two oldest children, Eli and Merah. So very hard to listen to. Hubbard is passionate, animated as he talks to the jury. @wis10


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 39m39 minutes ago
Hubbard: "He left them out there in bags, waiting for nature to take its course. The least he could have done is bury those kids.” @wis10

Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 34m34 minutes ago
After an hour and ten minutes, Hubbard finishes closing arguments. We're on a short break. No emotion from Jones as he listened to the excruciating details of the case summarized in closings. @wis10
 
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Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 43m43 minutes ago
As Hubbard's closing statement hits the one-hour mark, he talks about the nature of how the other four children died.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 41m41 minutes ago
Hubbard references Rob Madsen's opening statement, saying "you need to look at the forest, not just a few tries" when evaluating Jones's case.
Hubbard says "the only forest we saw in this case" was a map of the wooded area where Jones disposed of the bodies in Alabama.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 39m39 minutes ago
Hubbard brings up Special Agent David Mackey's testimony, where Jones told investigators in an interview that if "Nahtahn came off it, none of this would have happened." Even after the bodies were found in Alabama, Hubbard says Jones directed his anger towards Nahtahn.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 35m35 minutes ago
Hubbard wraps up his closing statement by saying he's speaking for "five little babies" and that they deserve justice. Judge Griffith calls for a 15-minute break. Up next: Defense's closing statement.
 
  • #665
Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 18m18 minutes ago
Hubbard, "That man looked into her eyes and choked her as she said 'Daddy. I love you.'" @wachfox#TimothyJonesTrial #TimothyJones

I understand why he says Nahtahn suffered the most. I think maybe he suffered the longest is a better way to word it. He suffered the abuse but he did not know he was going to die or his siblings were.

I can't imagine that this little girl and perhaps the oldest brother who knew what was coming didn't suffer the most. Oldest siblings, especially sisters feel a responsibility to protect their younger siblings. This would have been psychological torture for those two older kids.

Absolutely horrible. So much like Bella and CeCe Watts.
 
  • #666
Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 14m14 minutes ago
Boyd Young, lead defense attorney for the defense, begins his closing statement. Talks about what the psychiatrists said on the stand (about whether Jones was morally justified to kill his children), further saying that killing five children makes somebody insane.


Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 23m23 minutes ago
Boyd Young is doing the closing arguments for the defense. He tells the jury the defense his telling them the whole story and uses the forest analogy that was used in opening statements by Robert Madsen #TimothyJones #TimothyJonesTrial @wachfox


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 11m11 minutes ago
Young: "You can't rationalize crazy"
He says every witness on the stand says Jones loved his children. He cites prior testimony where Jones told one witness "his children were better off in heaven."
Brings up the forest analogy, saying Tim was in a "forest of insanity."


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 11m11 minutes ago
Young: "You can't rationalize crazy" He says every witness on the stand says Jones loved his children. He cites prior testimony where Jones told one witness "his children were better off in heaven." Brings up the forest analogy, saying Tim was in a "forest of insanity."


Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 8m8 minutes ago
The defense is playing an audio recording of an alleged Minister they say Jones would listen to. The Minster is heard saying, "If you beat a child with a rod, you will save them from an early death...." and "Though shalt spank and though shalt deliver." #TimothyJones @wachfox


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 8m8 minutes ago
Young plays an audio recording from a book about raising children that Jones Jr. read. He says Jones followed this book as a guide so "his children would love him and never want to leave him."


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 5m5 minutes ago
The audio recording says "if you strike your child with a rod, then you will save your child from an early death." It also says, "thou shall spank, thou shall deliver."
 
  • #667
Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 3m3 minutes ago
Here's a look at what's gone down so far inside the courtroom today.

Young is still delivering his closing statement to the jury, going over the note showing a roadmap of what Jones planned to do with the bodies found in the car.

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  • #668
What a long and difficult day this has been. The obituaries/pictures of these babies are so touching, yet heartbreaking.

Thanks for all your hard work, Y/N
 
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Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 4m4 minutes ago
At several points during Young's closing statement, Jones has dabbed his eyes with a blue handkerchief and taken his glasses off. So far, Young's closing statement has lasted 57 minutes. Solicitor Graham's statement went for an hour and 10 minutes.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 3m3 minutes ago
Young builds a pyramid made of several plastic bags filled with medication on the evidence table in front of the jury.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 38s38 seconds ago
Young talks about the audio interviews Jones did with police, saying that's "pressured speech", indicative of mental illness.
 
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https://twitter.com/TimScottTV/status/1135615998646726659


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Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 11m11 minutes ago
Young: "You can't rationalize crazy" He says every witness on the stand says Jones loved his children.

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Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 8m8 minutes ago
Young plays an audio recording from a book about raising children that Jones Jr. read. He says Jones followed this book as a guide so "his children would love him and never want to leave him."

1. Depends on one's definition of love, eh? He "loved" Amber too, as long as she obeyed him and didn't try to escape his control. He also "loved" his father, as long as his father didn't disagree with him or criticize his beliefs.

2. That he beat & continued to beat his children & babies, despite the objections of his wife, father, step-mother, live-in teenage lover, babysitters, (and too little, too late, the law), isn't an expression of love, or even religious belief.

One great big tell is his saying that he beat them so they would love HIM, so they would not want to leave HIM.

Interpreting his children's need for their mother as a rejection of him is pathetic & twisted. Killing them to punish them for wanting their mother and to keep them from her is just plain narcissistic evil.
 
  • #673
Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 3m3 minutes ago
Young finishes up his closing statement, clocking in at an hour and seven minutes.

Judge Griffith sends the jury out of the room, will call them back in shortly to discuss instructions.
 
  • #674
Killing five children makes someone insane.
Or evil.
Or heartless.
Or cruel.
Or some combination of the above.

I can live with any verdict as long as he is never again a free man. Ever.
 
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Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 25m25 minutes ago
Judge Griffith is reading off the charges and instructions to the jury before they are sent off to deliberate. They have four options:

*Guilty *Guilty, but mentally ill
*Not Guilty by reason of insanity
*Not Guilty
 
  • #677
In jury deliberations in 2 cases. Looks like Law and Crime has covered both at least a little, so I set up alerts for the law and crime verdict twitter. We will see how that goes. It's been almost 2 weeks since they tweeted, but I'll give it a shot. They only tweet when's verdict has been reached.
 
  • #678
Timothy Jones Jr. trial: prosecution closing argument | full video

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Timothy Jones Jr. trial: defense closing argument | full video

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  • #679
1) The defense bringing in Jones’ religion during closing arguments was a big mistake for them I think. I’m pretty sure “Thou shalt not kill” takes precedent over some preacher’s call to beat your children till they love you.
2) I think the prosecution nailed it when they pointed out everything he did after Nahtahn died was about Tim Jones.
3) Tim Jones only wipes his eyes when defense Attys or defense witnesses are talking.
4) Unanswered question that the prosecution brought up briefly yesterday...Why did Elias say to his father “Daddy, take me with you” right before Jones killed him? I think Jones was already packing to get out of town.
 
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