SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #13

[PPKik]

maybe he means phone call as speaking as opposed to text msg? or maybe told to say it??or maybe just shoddy reporting?or all of the above?

True. But why not say what it is? That's a lot to be unclear about when you're trying to find your missing child and ask the public for help in many ways. That was Jan. 30.

If these times/calls weren't important, which I believe they are, then don't keep letting out conflicting ''facts,'' and use the media to correct confusion, misinformation, and speculation.

There's more here than shoddy reporting, though there is plenty of that. imo

 

[Snowyowl]

True. But why not say what it is? That's a lot to be unclear about when you're trying to find your missing child and ask the public for help in many ways. That was Jan. 30.

If these times/calls weren't important, which I believe they are, then don't keep letting out conflicting ''facts,'' and use the media to correct confusion, misinformation, and speculation.

There's more here than shoddy reporting, though there is plenty of that. imo

yep..something's rotten in Denmark,SC :banghead:

 

[PPKik]

yep..something's rotten in Denmark,SC :banghead:

News story dated Jan. 22

''A police report says Elvis’ father contacted T-Mobile, his cellular provider, which the report says provided him with a call history for the victim’s phone.

''According to the report, the last phone calls were at about 6 a.m. Dec. 18, about four hours after Elvis and Shiraldi ended their date.

''The calls were back and forth between the victim and the older man, the report said.''

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/local/aynor/article_e27b8722-81fa-11e3-a440-001a4bcf6878.html

 

[Foxfire]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Momtofour View Post
Apologies if this has already been posted......
http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_9e6c8c96-8cec-11e3-ab97-001a4bcf6878.html
Four harassment complaints filed since Heather Elvis reported missing

Originally posted by Rochestergirl:
Snipped by me from above link.

"Terry Elvis, father of Heather Elvis, is mentioned in three of the reports – twice as an “other entity” and once as a “suspect.”

In one report, a witness said Terry Elvis took pictures of the Moorer home, placed missing persons posters near the residence and made threats.

Two other reports said Elvis has been driving by Moorer’s house on several occasions.
Elvis also couldn’t be reached for comment."

How dare her father search for her, definitely warrants a harassment complaint. It's hard to imagine that they tried to get TE arrested as well. This article completely clears up why BB and GS were arrested now. Hopefully their day will come when their reports against other will no longer have to be followed up on. If they are innocent they should be working on clearing their name not having missing person's family and friends arrested.

Agreed, Rochestergirl..
Riding down the road taking pictures and placing missing persons posters nearby a residence is not a violation of the law, imo.

I've often wondered how I would react if it was my daughter that was missing and foul play suspected. Actually, I know exactly how I would react. I would want answers, and would stop at nothing until I got them.. Damn, the consequences of a bunch of petty charges..
After almost seven weeks, imo TE has been very cooperative with HCPD investigators, considering their past record of solving missing/murdered persons cases.

I-Team: Officer suspended over raids for missing daughter
Baltimore detective is lead investigator in Phylicia Barnes case

BALTIMORE —A Baltimore City police detective has been suspended pending an internal and possible criminal investigation of his conduct over the weekend concerning his missing daughter, 11 News has learned.[modsnip]

Sniped & BBM - Read more> http://www.wbaltv.com/news/maryland.../11791992/-/nb5gde/-/index.html#ixzz2sLofPyYl
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Found Deceased MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, believed abducted in Baltimore, 28-Dec-2010
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[jeandrews]

"The (lady or in this case SM) doth protest too much, methinks" is a quote from Shakespeare where someone is trying to convince someone else that the opposite is true. I truly don't believe that SM is a victim here. He admittedly had an affair with HE and now HE is missing. SM has done Nothing to help with this investigation. The reason SS was cleared was that he cooperated right away and even took a polygraph. Sm has dirty hands and he has no standing to complain.
I have no pity for SM - his atonement for his actions on that Tuesday morning and thereafter hasn't even begun yet. All MOO.

 

[TTF14]

"The (lady or in this case SM) doth protest too much, methinks" is a quote from Shakespeare where someone is trying to convince someone else that the opposite is true. I truly don't believe that SM is a victim here. He admittedly had an affair with HE and now HE is missing. SM has done Nothing to help with this investigation. The reason SS was cleared was that he cooperated right away and even took a polygraph. Sm has dirty hands and he has no standing to complain.
I have no pity for SM - his atonement for his actions on that Tuesday morning and thereafter hasn't even begun yet. All MOO.

It baffles the mind that if someone is being unjustly assumed to have been involved in a crime and they had absolutely nothing to do with it, and had a great alibi, they would just say, "Look, you idiots! If you must know, this is what I was doing, and here's how I can prove it. Now leave me alone."

ETA: Saying "it's none of their business" is an excuse. Pride and self respect would, in nearly every circumstance, supersede something being an entire community's "business" or not. In my opinion of course.

ETA (again): And, especially in the case of a missing person, if you had any kind of compassion for your fellow human beings and could concretely point the investigation AWAY from somewhere that TRULY is not involved in ANY way, you would do it. Not only to get the heat off you, but to free up manpower to start searching in the right place! I mean, if you were a person of compassion. If not, and only cared about yourself and having people think you're "right", then, well....I don't know what kind of person would do.

 

[bestill]

I find it telling when people accuse others of doing exactly what they are doing! Another interesting observation is "don't believe what you read on the internet" but believe what I'm writing on the internet. Would be d*mn amusing if a person, someone's child, wasn't missing.

 

[TTF14]

I find it telling when people accuse others of doing exactly what they are doing! Another interesting observation is "don't believe what you read on the internet" but believe what I'm writing on the internet. Would be d*mn amusing if a person, someone's child, wasn't missing.

BBM. Haha....great point!

 

[PPKik]

"The (lady or in this case SM) doth protest too much, methinks" is a quote from Shakespeare where someone is trying to convince someone else that the opposite is true. I truly don't believe that SM is a victim here. He admittedly had an affair with HE and now HE is missing. SM has done Nothing to help with this investigation. The reason SS was cleared was that he cooperated right away and even took a polygraph. Sm has dirty hands and he has no standing to complain.
I have no pity for SM - his atonement for his actions on that Tuesday morning and thereafter hasn't even begun yet. All MOO.

Do we really know what his actions were on Tuesday? Except for purportedly making a phone call(s), of unknown content, what did he do? Maybe he will need to atone, at some future time when evidence proves beyond a reasonable doubt he did something needing atonement, but at this point, what has he done, but have an affair with young woman who wrote about it publicly and wanted the world to know about it in quite graphic terms? I imagine this OMM to be feeling like an idiot and very embarrassed.

I don't know if he even left his house on the 18th. Does anyone on here know?

I don't pity him, far from it, but I am appalled that in the minds of many, he's done the worst possible thing, yet has not even been named a suspect. I lack far to much information to come to any solid conclusions about much at
this point.

In fact, other parties seem to be protesting rather a lot, and putting out misleading information that can actually be looked at and questioned (but that isn't done much).

 

[TTF14]

Do we really know what his actions were on Tuesday? Except for purportedly making a phone call(s), of unknown content, what did he do? Maybe he will need to atone, at some future time when evidence proves beyond a reasonable doubt he did something needing atonement, but at this point, what has he done, but have an affair with young woman who wrote about it publicly and wanted the world to know about it in quite graphic terms? I imagine this OMM to be feeling like an idiot and very embarrassed.

I don't know if he even left his house on the 18th. Does anyone on here know?

I don't pity him, far from it, but I am appalled that in the minds of many, he's done the worst possible thing, yet has not even been named a suspect. I lack far to much information to come to any solid conclusions about much at
this point.

In fact, other parties seem to be protesting rather a lot, and putting out misleading information that can actually be looked at and questioned (but that isn't done much).

If I was having an illicit affair with someone almost half my age, and was the last person to talk to that person (at a very unusual time of day), and was then unlucky enough to have that person go MISSING, and I had nothing to do with it and everyone thought I did, I certainly would not be taking to Social Media (or having my handler do it) and taunting people who really just wanted to clear my name so the investigation could move on in the way it should. It doesn't even make any sense that an innocent person would want to remain under a cloud of suspicion when they could easily clear it up. IF they could easily clear it up IMO.

I do agree with you that misinformation has probably been put out there that is not helping the investigation.

 

[cluciano63]

Most people probably cannot prove whether or not they left their house at a certain time. SM may be in that position or he may be counting on the fact that no one can prove he did.

ETA I looked up the sheriff of HC last night, hoping to find he had experience in other cities, bigger places etc....but was a little discouraged to find he has worked in MB for his entire career.

 

[bestill]

If I was having an illicit affair with someone almost half my age, and was the last person to talk to that person (at a very unusual time of day), and was then unlucky enough to have that person go MISSING, and I had nothing to do with it and everyone thought I did, I certainly would not be taking to Social Media (or having my handler do it) and taunting people who really just wanted to clear my name so the investigation could move on in the way it should. It doesn't even make any sense that an innocent person would want to remain under a cloud of suspicion when they could easily clear it up. IF they could easily clear it up IMO.

I do agree with you that misinformation has probably been put out there that is not helping the investigation.

I agree with TTF14 and would like to also like to make a point that the story told to LE didn't match the timeline from the unlucky OMM. And regarding the later reports to the LE about harassment and threats, how do we know what was really said by the caller? All we know is what was reported by OMW and OMM, or did I miss something?

 

[Aeronomy]

I was just going back through some of the photos of HE and decided to once again take a closer look at the photo of her driving on the night of December 17th. I ran it through two separate ELA tools (one software program and one online tool) and noticed something -- okay, a couple of things -- that didn't seem right to me. If anyone here is familiar Error Analysis, would you let me know if you see anything?

And if anyone is interested, ELA stands for the error level analysis of a photo. There's a site online called fotoforensics that can do some of the process for you. There's also information there about how it works, but I don't know how much control you have. That was the second tool I ran it through after second guessing myself. I still saw differences, but couldn't find anything there to alter the settings.

 

[lovinlife83]

Have they started a thread for the missing mother and daughter out of Bennettsvile?http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24623...ice-searching-for-missing-mother-and-daughter

So…nobody knows the answer?

 

[jellybeanz]

The mother is known to visit a friend at the beach near Hwy 544 in Socastee area.
http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24623...ice-searching-for-missing-mother-and-daughter

83 miles (an hour and a half) from Bennettsville, SC to Socastee, SC

So…nobody knows the answer?

I'm very interested in this one. I found her FB and there is one pic on there that intrigues me.

Maybe you could start a thread lovinlife?

 

[Hatfield]

I agree with TTF14 and would like to also like to make a point that the story told to LE didn't match the timeline from the unlucky OMM. And regarding the later reports to the LE about harassment and threats, how do we know what was really said by the caller? All we know is what was reported by OMW and OMM, or did I miss something?

The thing that bothers me the most is when LE asked if OM had spoken or last seen her and at first he indicated he had not seen her for quite some time. Then after phone records were obviously checked, he then said he did talk with her and to tell HE not to ever call again.

This is really bothersome. IMO, there is no way you would forget about calling her. Then the actual contents of the call were conflicting because the roomate indicated it was something quite different. All very bothersome.

 

[cluciano63]

The thing that bothers me the most is when LE asked if OM had spoken or last seen her and at first he indicated he had not spoken with her for quite some time. Then after phone records were obviously checked, he then said he did talk with her and to tell HE not to ever call again.

This is really bothersome. IMO, there is no way you would forget about calling her. Then the actual contents of the call were conflicting because the roomate indicated it was something quite different. All very bothersome.

Well, he said he had not seen her since October...but that he had spoken to her only to say to stop calling him, according to what we have read. Although why that would involve calls "back and forth" is confusing.

 

[Hatfield]

I dont necessarily think that HE case is related to any others quite yet, but I do think there is enough other missing people that there could be some sort of serial type criminal working in that area.

I too worry if enough resources have been brought in to properly investigate all the missing cases. It is a tough job and wish they would ask for help if they need it.

 

[cluciano63]

I always prefer to think that LE knows what they are doing. In this case, either they have all they need (except for Heather), thus their total lack of communication with the public, or they are really bungling the case, allowing all kinds of misinformation and rumors and finger-pointing to take center stage. I do not know what to think. Unfortunately, the way it seems to be being handled is too much like Holly Bobo's case, a mess of a case if ever there was one and soon to be three years old.

 

[Hatfield]

Well, he said he had not seen her since October...but that he had spoken to her only to say to stop calling him, according to what we have read. Although why that would involve calls "back and forth" is confusing.

Yes, the police report is probably the most accurate account of the contradictions in what was supposedly said during the calls. It just seems so hokey and it bothers me that there is any contradiction at all about contents of what was said. Some heresay involved of course.