SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #13

[stillwatersc]

I think they just tried to protect them by releasing the harassment police reports. There have been other police reports filed in this case that they haven't discussed and per the mods we can't discuss. I think this is there way of saying stop. I think maybe they can't clear them 100%. (snipped).

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Is there direct proof that LE release the police report? Not opinion. Direct proof. Not looking to argue or be attacked. I am looking for a real discussion regarding this. I ask this because it would be I do not know the answer for certain. (snipped)

I was responding/disagreeing to your post that LE had released the PR to protect the Moorers. I thought you had 'proof' before you made that statement. I feel like the SM was flying under the radar to anyone not closely following this case and the harassment PR is a big chink in his anonymity in the community. His attitude in attacking the missing girl's family makes him look mean and suspicious. Not good for business in this Southern girl's POV.

 

[imamaze]

Does anyone have a good version of the pic she sent to her father on the night of her date?

Here... pic HE sent her father....

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229912&page=4

 

[Jersey*Girl]

It is possible that the last person she had contact with lied, as we don't know who she last had contact with. I don't consider that a lie because we don't know the context or how the questions occurred. He may have said that because his wife was sitting there or TE was present and HE didn't want her dad to know. Bottom line, within the same time period he said he talked to her. It's not like days, weeks, months, or with a lawyer present he admitted to talking to her.

Who lied: BB see articles, TE knew opinion December who SM was according to the harrassment report but on 1/21 claimed to not know his napa me. there have been many more, but since no one can be sleuthed in this case, it can't be said. That's why I suggest people watch the videos and read the articles. You will see what I am referring to.

Who said mean and horrible things: this started with all the harrassment reports, then the police report being released and then the "post" people refer to....

Re the interview... Sometimes interviews are cut & spliced. Sometimes certain portions are prerecorded, etc. TE saying he didn't know his name could have actually been from an earlier date.

 

[imamaze]

I was responding/disagreeing to your post that LE had released the PR to protect the Moorers. I thought you had 'proof' before you made that statement. I feel like the SM was flying under the radar to anyone not closely following this case and the harassment PR is a big chink in his anonymity in the community. His attitude in attacking the missing girl's family makes him look mean and suspicious. Not good for business in this Southern girl's POV.

I'm not hockymom4 but she didn't make a statement as in she had proof, that' s why she said I think... It is her opinion and she was wondering if someone had proof one way or the other at this point.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I stand by my statement. Now, into the reports. first, the Moorer's were not anonymous before the report was released, but we can't go into full details. One thing I will say is that it is clear from the article above and the police report that TE know who SM was ask in December. Now, he did say in an interview on HLN on 1/21 he claims to have no idea what his name is, so I guess that is a lie. The moorer's were not anonymous.

Is there direct proof that LE release the police report? Not opinion. Direct proof. Not looking to argue or be attacked. I am looking for a real discussion regarding this. I ask this because it would be I do not know the answer for certain. I was wondering where it originally came from and if an apology was issued, etc. Regardless, IMO, they are not ruined because there names were on the report. There was another name on the report that was listed as a possible violent ex. He is not ruined! They are ruined because of the things said about them. I don't know them, but I don't like the way they have been treated. I find it disgusting how people can take a name and drag it through the mud because someone THiNkS they are guilty. Yes, they have lied....so have others. Yes, they said mean and horrible things. Others did first, it just wasn't made public...interesting, huh? Two wrongs never make a right. And guess what...Heather is still missing.

I thought it was the Carolina Forrest Chronicle that obtained & released it first. Maybe I'm off on that. I wonder if it was and if they obtained the report via FOIA. If so, who is the person signing off on the request and is it the same person that wrote the coinciding article?

 

[Foxfire]

ITA BBM LE surely doesn't want a murder to happen with mob mentality so why not give more info........at first I even thought it could be that LE stolen car and an imposter of an LE. Surely even if LE wanted to keep certain things secret, wouldn't they calm Heathers family down by saying the M family wasn't their only lead??? This is getting a bit to much. The locals should demand to know if LE is looking for a SK and if other young girls could be victims.....Public safety announcement at least!lease:

Wondering, where this MB police impersonator is residing today? As far as I can tell, he was released on a $20,000 bond. Can't find any more info after his release.

http://www.scnow.com/news/local/article_59f50d0f-2c42-5f12-b72b-3bfa22c2ea71.html

Myrtle Beach Police arrest a man accused of impersonating an officer
Story

Posted: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:49 pm | Updated: 4:54 pm, Mon Dec 31, 2012.

Myrtle Beach Police say a woman was assaulted by a man who pretended to be a police officer. According to a police report, it happened Sunday at around 11:20pm. The victim tells police a man in a truck stopped her near 4th Avenue N. and Chester Street.

She says the man claimed he was a police officer and instructed her to get in the truck so he could ask her some questions before deciding if he was going to arrest her and take her to jail. Once inside the truck, she says he patted her down.
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[stillwatersc]

Right, but on the flip side, if you were guilty why would you be so obnoxious?

I'm having a hard time putting myself in her position. We have very different lives. So what I would do may be totally opposite of what she would do. If my husband had an affair and I was pissed, I'd ruin him financially. But he probably doesn't have the finances to get ruined that way. And please don't let that sound snobby...

If you were very stupid and arrogant - someone who has no self discipline. The same kind of person who may fly off the handle and hurt someone.

Agree with second part. Why would an OMW still be with him? Why be more angry at the other woman than at the spouse? The spouse is the one that betrayed her. There will always be another woman waiting in the wings if you have that kind of OMM.

 

[hockeymom4]

I was responding/disagreeing to your post that LE had released the PR to protect the Moorers. I thought you had 'proof' before you made that statement. I feel like the SM was flying under the radar to anyone not closely following this case and the harassment PR is a big chink in his anonymity in the community. His attitude in attacking the missing girl's family makes him look mean and suspicious. Not good for business in this Southern girl's POV.

I said I THINK, not that I know, meaning my opinion.

 

[hockeymom4]

Re the interview... Sometimes interviews are cut & spliced. Sometimes certain portions are prerecorded, etc. TE saying he didn't know his name could have actually been from an earlier date.

Nope. I watched it live, read the transcripts, and have listened to the follow up video.

 

[hockeymom4]

I thought it was the Carolina Forrest Chronicle that obtained & released it first. Maybe I'm off on that. I wonder if it was and if they obtained the report via FOIA. If so, who is the person signing off on the request and is it the same person that wrote the coinciding article?

I ask because I wondered how they received this...independently, from LE, or from someone who had the report. Not sure we will ever find out, but many blame LE for the release and I don't think they would do such a thing.

 

[SharetheLight]

Okay, thinking and typing a lot today.

With the mob reaction to the M family and the fact that LE hasn't come out to say they have been cleared, they must still be in the mix. Wouldn't LE try and protect these people if they KNEW they were innocent? Or are they trying to keep the attention diverted from where they are really looking?

I think about this too. For public safety reasons wouldn't it makes sense to quiet the crowd with some positive info you have about the couple? IF you have such info. Even to say hey they are cooperating (thinking of the scenario someone just posed that what if the only thing keeping them from getting cleared is they are each other's alibi--I can come up with many reasons this should not be true at all but for now let's assume this is the case) so if they've done everything LE has requested LE could say they are fully cooperating and that would go a looooong way in the public's eye.
But they haven't said this.
Would LE risk a citizen's safety to divert attention away from someone else?
I would hate to think so.

 

[pinkfly]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542416/Father-missing-South-Carolina-woman-makes-desperate-plea-information-whereabouts.html

Here is the picture I was looking at but all I see is the natural 'lacking' of a flash on a cell phone camera (bright middle light and poor wrap around quality).

 

[hockeymom4]

I have researched so much and just about everything I've come across shows him to be a good man that's devoted to his family. He appears broken to me, at least right at the moment, bc he's missing a huge part of his life - his daughter Heather. I just don't see him harassing them to the point that charges should be filed against him. This is a GOD fearing man. He holds the holy spirit close in his heart. Not seeing it. Maybe it's their word against his? Idk. I tend to agree on this but I wonder if there's actual proof.

All harassment charges do not equal arrest, but they do equal police reports. Been down that road. You do not need a ton of proof to file a report, but you do for a charge and an arrest. I think that he is so determined to find his daughter and he is so focused on them. I have read many of his writings published in MSM and some not and if I heard something happen to these people, I am sorry, but it would not be surprised, one bit. He wants his daughter, but you can't use words like bounty. You can't have your "people" making statements like they do. We can all debate if he knew what they were doing, but IMO...he knew. I get it, his heart is aching because he doesn't know where his daughter is at, but you can't issue threats at someone. They may not have the answers and it is against the law.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

One poster said the Holy Spirit and his belief in it would keep him from stalking or harassing...

I didn't say definite. I just didn't see it as something strong enough to warrant a complaint. It's so hard to see that and agree with it when everything found on him is just pure good. Still though, I completely understand what you are saying and you're right.

 

[cluciano63]

I didn't say definite. I just didn't see it as something strong enough to warrant a complaint. It's so hard to see that and agree with it when everything found on him is just pure good. Still though, I completely understand what you are saying and you're right.

I think he has decided who is guilty and is on the brink, possibly, of taking the law into his own hands, or encouraging others to do so but I hope not. Am hoping LE has since told him if they have somehow cleared SM. If they haven't, and nothing breaks, I do fear for the M family, JMO.

 

[margarita25]

I found what I was telling you guys about last night. This is very interesting, and IMVHO a must read for all parents that post their child's pictures online, as well as those that have children utilizing social media.

http://youtu.be/u2HD57z4F8E

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/local_...-your-children's-home,-school,-and-play-areas

Smartphone picture uploads can reveal the location of your children's home, school, and play areas

:bump:

 

[lovinlife83]

In so many cases we have been allowed to see search warrants and contents.
IIRC long lists in the Anthony case.........photos of LE in & out of the home. Webcams from news stations...........why did that all stop? I know some SW are sealed. In this case is it because the couple are not named suspects? In my small corner of the world this would be top headlines every night on the news...........I just do not get all the tight lipped around this case. Why were old pictures being used? tattoos & car not pictured on flyers? No one speaking out about anything.......friends & relatives of victim and couple........mum is the word for this case :banghead:

My honest opinion….TE and DE know their daughter is not safe. I'm sure LE told them what they couldn't say for fear it would hurt the investigation. My feeling is that there was some evidence somewhere (her car, her apartment, someones else's car or home) enough to point to foul play and her being deceased. Maybe DNA results haven't come back yet and that is all they are waiting on? I found it odd (in my mind) that they had a candlelight vigil for her within days (December 22nd) of the missing report, like they already knew they would never see their baby again There is a crime scene somewhere, maybe LE found it right away and the cue searches were arranged by others (who don't know all the details). LE didn't stop the searches because they didn't want to tip anyone off to the fact they were on to them.

Also - The 2nd poster I had (hung it at my work) did have her tattoos on it. They had her car up on their missing page and it caused lots of confusion.

 

[SharetheLight]

It is possible that the last person she had contact with lied, as we don't know who she last had contact with. I don't consider that a lie because we don't know the context or how the questions occurred. He may have said that because his wife was sitting there or TE was present and HE didn't want her dad to know. Bottom line, within the same time period he said he talked to her. It's not like days, weeks, months, or with a lawyer present he admitted to talking to her.



Who lied: BB see articles, TE knew opinion December who SM was according to the harrassment report but on 1/21 claimed to not know his napa me. there have been many more, but since no one can be sleuthed in this case, it can't be said. That's why I suggest people watch the videos and read the articles. You will see what I am referring to.



Who said mean and horrible things: this started with all the harrassment reports, then the police report being released and then the "post" people refer to....

This started with a girl going missing.

 

[CharlieJ]

This is the reason right here why I keep thinking something is up with a certain somebody and possibly their significant other... Why lie? Then to only say he called her to tell her to stop calling him but failing to admit there were calls back & forth between both of them that fateful morning? He first lies, then subsequently only tells a half truth at best? <snipped>

Police records discuss phone calls between Heather Elvis, older man as late as 6 a.m. December 18

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Horry County police are following up on leads concerning phone activity between Elvis’ phone and the man who’s nearly twice her age, police records show.

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The calls were back and forth between the victim and the older man, the report said.

The older man told police he hasn’t seen the victim since October, and then admitted to speaking with Heather Elvis the previous night, the report continued.

He further told police, the report said, that he “called her to tell her to quit calling him and that was it.”

As for SM's lie about October...my guess is he told his wife in October that the affair was over. And in his stupid panic mode, he lied. He knew he didn't kill HE, so his first fear was his wife.

And herein lies what I think is the beginning of the truth. What IF... SM did called HE and talk with her? Then, wife found out and - being the dominant one - took over the conversation via text posing as SM. Or, what IF... SM continued the conversation until wife found out that night, then stepped in and demanded a meeting with HE... or SM & HE together? One way or the other, s/he lied. IMO, the lies are not resolved.

IMO, LE knows more than they are letting on publicly in this situation. And, my guess is that A LOT of ppl here, and on the site which shall not be named, will be eating crow when indictments are handed down with a plethora of solid evidence. At least two of the LE working this case are seasoned veterans, with decades of experience in metro areas, who know their craft very well.

Don't be fooled by the silence. It isn't a vacuum... it may just be the quiet before the storm.

 

[Motherof5]

The article I read said that TE was harassing them with words as well. We don't know if they caught this on video, camera, etc. I too would do everything I could, to find my child, but I don't believe in breaking the law to get there. But, that is me. I have been harassed, stalked and abused and it is the worst feeling in the world.

To be fair...unless you've been IN TE's shoes...unless your child has gone missing under these very circumstances...you cannot say with any amount of certainty,what you would and would not do. You simply cannot know his pain or mind unless you've been where he is.