SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #15

[lovinlife83]

Can someone please provide a link to the statement from either LE or MSM that says TE wore gloves while driving the car home from PTL
And
A link to the statement from MSM or LE that says HE license was found in the car?
I thought it was determined these were rumors but there's been a lot of mention on here about these two "facts".
Does anyone have a link to help a sista out?
Thank you to anyone who can help me.

Also it's my understanding that The xojane article is an essay TE wrote. It is not a news article/interview that gets continually updated as new news comes in.
It also doesn't appear things have been deleted as I have many screen shots of the first article/essay and it still looks the same.
If anyone has any screen shot to prove otherwise I know it can't be posted but please let me know.
Thanks again.

IMO, it wasn't the xojane article, it was the original crime feed article. This was the link. Maybe it was corrected because it wasn't true, maybe LE asked them to remove the statements or maybe LE wanted to throw some red herrings out there and decided against it?

I have a very good memory, i remember it being longer than the current article.
this is the updated link.
http://crimefeed.com/2014/01/heather-elvis-missing-pt-2-crime-feeds-interview-father-terry-elvis/

 

[Topcat]

Wonder what he will have to say? Glad he's speaking out

Well if he does speak out .. he's going to say she was/is a nice girl and he made a mistake getting involved with her and he is blessed to have the best wife in the world who has forgiven him as they work through their problems .
Of course I'm just guessing at all of this.....:loveyou:

 

[lovinlife83]

Yes, I've read all that. That's why I'm addressing the issue of SS.

And actually, I misspoke previously. If SS is wrong about when he dropped her off, it took him an hour and fifteen minutes to get home, not 45 minutes.

I'm saying what if he got home at 2 am and looked at the clock and saw 3 am so he he said he got home at 3 (when really it was only 2)

 

[SharetheLight]

IMO, it wasn't the xojane article, it was the original crime feed article. This was the link. Maybe it was corrected because it wasn't true, maybe LE asked them to remove the statements or maybe LE wanted to throw some red herrings out there and decided against it?



I have a very good memory, i remember it being longer than the current article.

this is the updated link.

http://crimefeed.com/2014/01/heather-elvis-missing-pt-2-crime-feeds-interview-father-terry-elvis/

Thank you. I guess we should consider it rumor then??
Do you remember if it said her license or BW license?
It is maddening that the articles get updated but I knew that essay didn't get updated and someone attributed it to the essay on xojane.

Eta: I should have asked which piece of info was here the license or the gloves on TE? Sorry.

 

[lovinlife83]

Thank you. I guess we should consider it rumor then??
Do you remember if it said her license or BW license?
It is maddening that the articles get updated but I knew that essay didn't get updated and someone attributed it to the essay on xojane.

Eta: I should have asked which piece of info was here the license or the gloves on TE? Sorry.

In the last thread, we found a quote from one of the first few threads that quoted it from the original article. If my kids stop acting crazy, I'll try to find it. This had the info about the gloves.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Tonight at 6, you'll hear from many of those involved in the Heather Elvis case who have never spoken out until now, including the man many are convinced knows what happened to her. See that entire investigation tonight on WMBF News at 6 p.m.

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24691440/tonight-at-6-exclusive-new-details-in-the-heather-elvis-disappearance

If the interview isn't with SM (and you would think they would mention him by name if it was), then it sounds like it's with someone who people believe knows what happens to Heather, not that he's guilty, but that he has a theory about it. If it is, I have no idea why they are making it into some big deal. Some private citizen thinks he knows what happened to Heather---he isn't part of LE---he just has a theory, let's give him some airtime!

 

[SharetheLight]

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24691...ew-details-in-the-heather-elvis-disappearance

<snipped by me>

"WMBF News' David Klugh spoke exclusively with one of the men arrested by detectives who claim he was interfering with the investigation. Bill Barrett is one of Terry Elvis' closest friends. He'll tell you all he was doing was what any friend would do for a father who's hurting.

Tonight at 6, you'll hear from many of those involved in the Heather Elvis case who have never spoken out until now, including the man many are convinced knows what happened to her. See that entire investigation tonight on WMBF News at 6 p.m"

I have no idea who they are talking about. They specifically mention BB then mention "others". Guess we will find out.

 

[Topcat]

If the interview isn't with SM (and you would think they would mention him by name if it was), then it sounds like it's with someone who people believe knows what happens to Heather, not that he's guilty, but that he has a theory about it. If it is, I have no idea why they are making it into some big deal. Some private citizen thinks he knows what happened to Heather---he isn't part of LE---he just has a theory, let's give him some airtime!

It's called ratings.....

 

[eileenhawkeye]

It's called ratings.....

I don't really see how a private citizen giving his theory about what happened to Heather is a ratings grabber, especially when his theory is already well-known. It's not like this is some famed private investigator or profiler giving his theory about it.

ETA: The wording does make it sound like SM is talking, so they are probably hoping that people will tune in, thinking it's him giving the interview. If they thought people would tune in to hear a private citizen give his theory, they would be more clear about it.

 

[StarryNight]

It's called ratings.....

I was about to say the same thing. Ratings, ratings, ratings. More people will watch if they *think* this interview may be with the person who was involved with her. Leaving people hanging during the preview ensures more people will watch. They may end up disappointed though, because I highly doubt that interview will be with the person who was romantically linked to her and spoke to her around the time she went missing.

 

[meinmyrtlebeach]

If the interview isn't with SM (and you would think they would mention him by name if it was), then it sounds like it's with someone who people believe knows what happens to Heather, not that he's guilty, but that he has a theory about it. If it is, I have no idea why they are making it into some big deal. Some private citizen thinks he knows what happened to Heather---he isn't part of LE---he just has a theory, let's give him some airtime!

When i first read this I immediately thought of TE, since he is convinced he knows what happened to her. In other words, TE is convinced he knows who took her etc. Could it just be a play on words about the interview with TE?

Either way...pretty slick marketing huh?

 

[meinmyrtlebeach]

Although the teaser DOES say that we'll hear from many of those involved in the case who've never spoken out before. Trying to think of who we've heard from already....

TE
ME
DE
BB

Who does that leave? SM, TM, BW, SS, possibly violent ex, brother CE?

 

[Motherof5]

It seems to me at this point all SM pages belonging to HE have been examined plus all phone communications. The numbers ,names and times with text messages have been gathered and analyzed by LE (I'm guessing other involved agencies have/are going through it also). A timeline with the participants has been put in place with that info. Interviews and re interviews have been conducted with those willing to talk. They were compared among the agencies . Searches have been conducted on properties and homes (whose we don't know). Now we wait for HE rescue or recovery (most likely the latter,imo). Where does LE go from here?

I'd like to see pressure, of a nonviolent nature, applied to the person and or persons that everyone who is working on this case suspects....whom ever that may be.

 

[hockeymom4]

Actually even if Ms.OMM 's DNA was in the car it could be explain off through transferring from her husband .. The car is tainted to a point BUT if unknown DNA is present and is traced back to a "interested" third party that would at least point LE in a direction that maybe wasn't considered,imo.

Agree 100% on both points. We were discussing if evidence found would be allowed in a trial, if something happened to hE, if it belonged to the M's or anyone else, and I say no with great confidence.

 

[Topcat]

If the interview isn't with SM (and you would think they would mention him by name if it was), then it sounds like it's with someone who people believe knows what happens to Heather, not that he's guilty, but that he has a theory about it. If it is, I have no idea why they are making it into some big deal. Some private citizen thinks he knows what happened to Heather---he isn't part of LE---he just has a theory, let's give him some airtime!

it's about drawing viewers... you got to be curious, right? well , that's the draw..they will wait till the end of the newscast for the story if they play it right and viewers will watch as they tease everyone along to the end.
Ratings 101...keep them hooked

 

[Topcat]

Agree 100% on both points. We were discussing if evidence found would be allowed in a trial, if something happened to hE, if it belonged to the M's or anyone else, and I say no with great confidence.

if it belonged to someone else , that opens a door. The lawyers will battle the legalese part if it goes that far...

 

[jillycat]

I'm saying what if he got home at 2 am and looked at the clock and saw 3 am so he he said he got home at 3 (when really it was only 2)

I honestly don't believe this many people are/were that confused about how to tell time. That's been my point all along.

And that, to me anyway, it appears that TE has a reason to believe 3:41 was the last time anyone can say with any certainty that Heather was ok, and I think that's plausible. Just as I think it's plausible the 6:00 time frame is part of an alibi.

I don't know if any of this correct. But to me, it makes as much or more sense than a protracted call/text/PM and social media posting saga, plus a drive, ending with a quick decision about where to put a body that was so lucky no one can find this poor girl - while multiple people went on to make repeated mistakes in knowing the correct time.

 

[Topcat]

I'd like to see pressure, of a nonviolent nature, applied to the person and or persons that everyone who is working on this case suspects....whom ever that may be.

me too.. but we must keep an open mind and let the evidence do the talking(that's the best pressure when applied properly)

 

[hockeymom4]

SM is in a no win situation. He doesn't talk, he is not cooperating. He talks, he won't say the right things. He is the MAN everyone is accusing and the MAN everyone "knows" did this. I am going to continue to look at this case and the interview tonight open minded. I am fully aware that he or his wife may be guilty, but I am also fully aware that they may be innocent. I live in this world where people are innocent until proven guilty especially when they haven't been charged, identified a suspect or POI. I have been waiting a week for his interview to air and hope that he will offer some answers.

 

[hockeymom4]

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24691...ew-details-in-the-heather-elvis-disappearance

<snipped by me>

"WMBF News' David Klugh spoke exclusively with one of the men arrested by detectives who claim he was interfering with the investigation. Bill Barrett is one of Terry Elvis' closest friends. He'll tell you all he was doing was what any friend would do for a father who's hurting.

Tonight at 6, you'll hear from many of those involved in the Heather Elvis case who have never spoken out until now, including the man many are convinced knows what happened to her. See that entire investigation tonight on WMBF News at 6 p.m"

I have no idea who they are talking about. They specifically mention BB then mention "others". Guess we will find out.

Sharethelight, just using your information from the article.

The statement, "including the man many are convinced knows what happened to her."

So, it is with a man and they are convinced this person knows what happened to HE.

I am not following at all why it could possible be anyone other than SM. He is the man they are convinced knows what happened to her. I don't think it's about ratings, I think it's about tying a name to "knows what happened to her" as he is not a suspect. So, if not SM, then who is the man they are convinced knows what happen to her?