SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #15

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  • #141
As much as I hope it's true that SM will be talking this evening during the interview, I can't for the life of me see ANY scenario where his attorney would allow that(assuming he's "lawyered up" as I think he should have quite a while ago).

I agree with you Hockeymom. He may or may not be guilty. At this point I almost hope he IS guilty, or else this lynchmob mentality that has taken over the beach has ruined his family's life for no reason if he's innocent.
 
  • #142
At one time a lot of locals were pointing the finger at a RSO that was a person of interest in the BD case. Could it be possible that the interview is with him? I suppose a lot of people still think maybe he knows what happened to her? I can't imagine him talking now after all these years when he hasn't in the other case.

So unless it's SM, then I'm stumped...
 
  • #143
I think if it was SM they were interviewing the media would say so.
 
  • #144
I think if it was SM they were interviewing the media would say so.

I agree. If he was going to be on the show, they'd get even better ratings by saying he'd be on the show, as opposed to the teaser they're offering now by not telling us who will be on there.
 
  • #145
As much as I hope it's true that SM will be talking this evening during the interview, I can't for the life of me see ANY scenario where his attorney would allow that(assuming he's "lawyered up" as I think he should have quite a while ago).

I agree with you Hockeymom. He may or may not be guilty. At this point I almost hope he IS guilty, or else this lynchmob mentality that has taken over the beach has ruined his family's life for no reason if he's innocent.

His lawyer may be with him advising him what to say. I can't see any other person who it could be, unless than is another man that people are convinced know. Also, he was interviewed last week. I do not know for what news station, but he was interviewed. This did not come from him or his wife and can be taken as rumor, but knowing the interview is airing tonight, I have all the belief that it will be him.

I see what you are saying about the "lynch mob" but he and his family deserved none of that, innocent or guilty. Some may disagree with me and honestly, I don't care anymore. I don't believe in tit for tat, eye for an eye, etc. I haven't had my child taken from me, but I have been violated, had others violated and had some pretty horrific things happen in my family. We didn't dream of destroying someone this way. We relied on this justice system. It takes a long time. If he or his wife is innocent, most of these people still think they deserve what they have "have got." I go to bed sick that we live in a society that this is how we treat people. I follow another case, where publically it is far more clear that this guy is involved. It is so refreshing to see that we can not destroy him and his family because he may not be guilty.
 
  • #146
Sharethelight, just using your information from the article.

The statement, "including the man many are convinced knows what happened to her."

So, it is with a man and they are convinced this person knows what happened to HE.

I am not following at all why it could possible be anyone other than SM. He is the man they are convinced knows what happened to her. I don't think it's about ratings, I think it's about tying a name to "knows what happened to her" as he is not a suspect. So, if not SM, then who is the man they are convinced knows what happen to her?

I am thinking that last paragraph in the link is a summary of what the investigative interview will be about, and in my opinion, I think the man that
many are convinced knows what happened to her, will be either Terry in his own words about the circumstantial evidence of the phone calls, or it could be about what Bill Barrett has to say in regards to what he knows since he had that Tip Tent and was arrested for obstruction of justice.
The wording is misleading to me, because it makes one Think it is someone else, it is very "suggestive", but I feel that if it were SM, that would be the BIG headline above BB's interview.
IMOO.
 
  • #147
Given the mob mentality in MB against the Moorer's , comments about vigalante justice, and the Moorer's 3 minor children. I would hope , if LE wasn't fairly confident the Moorer's are involved that LE would make a statement in an attempt to calm down the mob mentality. A statement saying there are several potentional POI, besides the Moorer's ? Don't get me wrong, I believe TM and SM backed themselves into the corner they are in, by not cooperating & TM's famous post..and they can walk themselves out of it by starting to cooperate. But they do have minor children whose lives have been destroyed, not just by their parent's actions but also because of the mob mentality.
Also, since the phone records and the comments made by TE about the Moorer's, the publics focus has been solely on the Moorers. If there is any evidence suggesting someone else could of harmed Heather, or if there isn't sufficient evidence to point solely on the Moorers..than I believe it was a huge mistake by TE and LE to allow the focus to remain on SM. The mob isn't looking for other alternatives, they are convinced the Moorer's are guilty. JMO
 
  • #148
Will this interview be posted online for those who don't live in the area to see?
 
  • #149
While I find it kind of too coincidental that Heather met up with anyone other than SM that night, and quite possibly came to harm as a result, as far as SM is concerned, it is not always possible to "clear" oneself, as so many are demanding. Most people cannot "prove" their whereabouts at any given time, especially in the middle of the night/daybreak hours. I know a lot of people would be satisfied if he took a LD test, as that shows a willingness to cooperate on some level, but as we know, they do not prove anything. (Yet I can't help remembering Dylan's father's ridiculous performance on Dr. Phil...agreed to take the test, finally, and then of course backed out.)

If it is true that SM has been uncooperative all along, as per TE, then he WILL remain the prime suspect in the eye of the public...no two ways about it. People cannot understand why an innocent person would not work with police in hopes of being ruled out.

Anyway...I will be shocked if he is on TV, but they have phrased it in a way that really cannot mean anyone else, IMO.
 
  • #150
Sharethelight, just using your information from the article.

The statement, "including the man many are convinced knows what happened to her."

Snipped by me..

Couldn't Terry Elvis be the man they are referring to ?

Am not implying he had anything to do with Heather's disappearance. Just saying the majority of the 45k followers on FHE are convinced TE knows who is responsible .
 
  • #151
I am thinking that last paragraph in the link is a summary of what the investigative interview will be about, and in my opinion, I think the man that
many are convinced knows what happened to her, will be either Terry in his own words about the circumstantial evidence of the phone calls, or it could be about what Bill Barrett has to say in regards to what he knows since he had that Tip Tent and was arrested for obstruction of justice.
The wording is misleading to me, because it makes one Think it is someone else, it is very "suggestive", but I feel that if it were SM, that would be the BIG headline above BB's interview.
IMOO.

Didn't think about Terry. But, it says, "Tonight at 6, you'll hear from many of those involved in the Heather Elvis case who have never spoken out until now, including the man many are convinced knows what happened to her. See that entire investigation tonight on WMBF News at 6 p.m."

So, it can't be Terry because we have already heard from him. We are hearing from many involved who have never spoke out before, including the man....not also. So, it means in the group of people we have never heard from is the man and it is the man that the feel knows what happened.

"Heather's father, Terry Elvis, has been at the center of a massive search effort both on foot and on social media. However, those efforts have not always gotten the blessing of the Horry County Police detectives investigating the case."

I just noticed this. Very interesting, but I am one, very happy that the detectives are aware of what is happening. Two, in my opinion, this just confirms my belief that I need to continue to believe LE. As someone said yesterday, I don't think think he gets updates daily and knows everything about the case. This statement to me, just confirmed it. This also would explain all the confusion I have been having.
 
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  • #153
Does anyone know if you can watch this online tonight? As I am not in the United States. Tia :)
 
  • #154
Does anyone know if you can watch this online tonight? As I am not in the United States. Tia :)

Hoping a link will be posted...I have to have oral surgery this afternoon...:( :( :(
 
  • #155
Given the mob mentality in MB against the Moorer's , comments about vigalante justice, and the Moorer's 3 minor children. I would hope , if LE wasn't fairly confident the Moorer's are involved that LE would make a statement in an attempt to calm down the mob mentality. A statement saying there are several potentional POI, besides the Moorer's ? Don't get me wrong, I believe TM and SM backed themselves into the corner they are in, by not cooperating & TM's famous post..and they can walk themselves out of it by starting to cooperate. But they do have minor children whose lives have been destroyed, not just by their parent's actions but also because of the mob mentality.
Also, since the phone records and the comments made by TE about the Moorer's, the publics focus has been solely on the Moorers. If there is any evidence suggesting someone else could of harmed Heather, or if there isn't sufficient evidence to point solely on the Moorers..than I believe it was a huge mistake by TE and LE to allow the focus to remain on SM. The mob isn't looking for other alternatives, they are convinced the Moorer's are guilty. JMO

This was in the article,
Heather's father, Terry Elvis, has been at the center of a massive search effort both on foot and on social media. However, those efforts have not always gotten the blessing of the Horry County Police detectives investigating the case.

Regardless if they are involved, the actions would never be condoned by LE. I would hope and I believe that they have done something, as harassment reports have been filed. What I have read with my eyes, has caused tears and me to be sick, regardless if they are guilty. We don't know if they have been cooperating. We know from LE that SM was interviewed and from TE that he is not cooperating. IF LE has enough to bring him in for more questioning, he will need to do so with his lawyer. So, i am not buying the not cooperating bit. The polygraph thing is just silly. They don't hold up in court and many who don't know him, say he is a psycho, so he can pass while lying. If they have enough circumstantial evidence they may have got warrants to search his property, phones, etc... We don't know. To say otherwise is rumor.
 
  • #156
Given the mob mentality in MB against the Moorer's , comments about vigalante justice, and the Moorer's 3 minor children. I would hope , if LE wasn't fairly confident the Moorer's are involved that LE would make a statement in an attempt to calm down the mob mentality. A statement saying there are several potentional POI, besides the Moorer's ? Don't get me wrong, I believe TM and SM backed themselves into the corner they are in, by not cooperating & TM's famous post..and they can walk themselves out of it by starting to cooperate. But they do have minor children whose lives have been destroyed, not just by their parent's actions but also because of the mob mentality.
Also, since the phone records and the comments made by TE about the Moorer's, the publics focus has been solely on the Moorers. If there is any evidence suggesting someone else could of harmed Heather, or if there isn't sufficient evidence to point solely on the Moorers..than I believe it was a huge mistake by TE and LE to allow the focus to remain on SM. The mob isn't looking for other alternatives, they are convinced the Moorer's are guilty. JMO

It's not about a mob of locals..it's law enforcement that makes the calls. I agree the Moorers .specifically the wife, had painted a poor picture with the outburst most have read. That in itself deserves the the public's attitude towards them. Let's say that was a misguided reaction to the embarrassment that her husband brought to her. The lack of civility towards a parent of a missing daughter deserves more that what has been written by her and her husband. Again, maybe a bad sense of judgement on their part. LE has not in any shape or form except for the fact nobody is named as a POI/suspect done anything to take the public's suspicions away from them. The questions that need to be asked,imo, are were you SM interviewed by LE? Were you asked to take a polygraph test? Was your property and home searched? Was your wife interviewed, polygraphed? Any other questions that pertain to his relationship with HE won't be answered,count on it.If SM gives this interview unaided by an attorney he is either,imo, a fool, a narcissist or is completely innocent (not my choice) or a any combination.
 
  • #157
Could the person the article is referring to be Bill Barrett himself? Maybe the evidence he found ( then withheld) has convinced him that he has enough info to name a suspect, but LE doesn't agree and will not yet charge anyone.
 
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  • #159
Perhaps this is just a teaser, and the man they are referring to is TE?

I think it is that crazy guy on FHEFB who claimed to be a psychic and was posting about searching by a gate or something. LOL.
 
  • #160
Tonight at 6, you'll hear from many of those involved in the Heather Elvis case who have never spoken out until now, including the man many are convinced knows what happened to her. See that entire investigation tonight on WMBF News at 6 p.m.

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24691440/tonight-at-6-exclusive-new-details-in-the-heather-elvis-disappearance
As an observation, I notice that the terminology is including the man many are convinced knows what happened to her. This doesn't mean that this person has never spoken out until now, though. Directly translated, this can mean we will hear from many who have never spoken out AND we will hear from the man many are convinced knows what happened to her. He has been included to be heard from with other people, and those people have not spoken out.

Just saying I have seen this type of headline before, and that is how it translated out. I am not saying that this is how this one will translate out.
 
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