SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #7

[Treelights]

http://www.myhorrynews.com/pdf_02311a56-7d31-11e3-8f4c-001a4bcf6878.html

"Editor's Note: Horry County police have since said the person who was checked in at Conway Medical Center, according to the narrative, is a different Heather Elvis from the Heather Elvis who is missing."

Quoting myself here for others that didn't see the post that I answered to Salem.

 

[MaliaMansly]

Because I'm sure they were concentrating on much more important things at the time and this is only the initial cover page of the report there are so many other parts of the reports that are not available under the freedom information act.

With all due respect, and I will drop it after this post, with the hopes I don't get a time out: [modsnip] That's JMOO though.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

I am sure this has already been discussed, but, the recent article posted indicated the date SAID he dropped her off between 2:00 and 2:30.

Right, that's a very, very long first date. He supposedly picked her up at around 7pm & drops her off 7+ hours later???? Wow!

 

[CC880]

First name too, although that's a nickname.

But he's cleared & not a suspect anyway, so I wonder if it matters. How does that work? Anybody know? It looks like the other names are spelled correctly, but if there were spelling errors of a person's name on a police report that could possibly be charged with a crime, can it effect the case? Is that possible?

Again you must first remember this was the initial officers investigation police report who was on scene gathering information and probably the names were provided from HE friends or from other people possibly the family. It is very common sometimes not get spelling correct on the initial report when getting this information from third persons

 

[Jersey*Girl]

With all due respect, and I will drop it after this post, with the hopes I don't get a time out: While I understand it is imperative to find the HE that is missing, it is, IMO, COMPLETELY unfair to expect others to forego their right to medical privacy in order to achieve that goal.

This initial police report, yeah, there's been plenty of time for SOMEONE to go through it prior to it's release today and take out that private info of the HE who is NOT missing. That's JMOO though.

And you are 100% correct. HIPAA laws are very strict. This information should have been redacted, the right way, and made inadmissible for back door entry by the public.

 

[CC880]

With all due respect, and I will drop it after this post, with the hopes I don't get a time out: While I understand it is imperative to find the HE that is missing, it is, IMO, COMPLETELY unfair to expect others to forego their right to medical privacy in order to achieve that goal.

This initial police report, yeah, there's been plenty of time for SOMEONE to go through it prior to it's release today and take out that private info of the HE who is NOT missing. That's JMOO though.

Contact HCPD to voice this concern.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Again you must first remember this was the initial officers investigation police report who was on scene gathering information and probably the names were provided from HE friends or from other people possibly the family. It is very common sometimes not get spelling correct on the initial report when getting this information from third persons

I agree.

 

[bettiepageturner]

I'm also starting to find the meeting-an-ex scenario much more likely. I wasn't convinced because PTL seemed too bizarre a meeting place for that hour, and assumed it meant HE wasn't even there that night.

While we're sharing insights from younger years.. when I was 21 my recent ex and I made plans to meet so we could exchange some items we realized we still had of each others, after not speaking for almost two months. We ended up meeting at this little bridge over a tiny river located far behind a campus building I had never even heard of, the parking lot for which neighbored the entrance to his apartment complex.

I'm realizing now it might look strange that we didn't just meet at his apartment, especially considering his roommate wasn't in town. Why didn't we? It would've been too painful. So we chose a spot that meant nothing to either of us, yet that we were both familiar with, and one that would guarantee privacy (tears were shed and voices were raised). If PTL had been a close-by option we very well may have gone with that instead.

FWIW.

 

[Topcat]

And with the report "printed out" on Dec. 30th, but not released in MSM until today, that gives plenty of time to redact/edit that information.
What about the Privacy concerns for the "other" girl of the same name if indeed it was not the missing Heather. Releasing info that could be of a sensitive nature (although it is not reported why she was at the hospital), is a breach of privacy, imo. Maybe this person did not want anyone to know why she was at the hospital, or even the fact she was there, but now that it is published, people might be inquisitive.
I agree the time frame fits, and the name of all names is the same as hers.
Strange.
IMOO.

I guess the other girl can always say it wasn't her since there's multiple people with the same name.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

If it was her, and not another girl with the same name, it could have been some kind of scheduled test, too. The first time I had a bone scan, I had to go to the hospital and check in as an out patient because my clinic didn't have the equipment.

ETA: news site confirms it's NOT our HE, so it doesn't matter.

Do you have a link? I've missed it somehow and it might be good to make a big note of it.

Thanks!

Salem

Found it!

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_4170d766-7d30-11e3-a2db-001a4bcf6878.html?TNNoMobile

 

[cluciano63]

Why is the length of the date weird?
Anyway, this may have been someone she had known for a while, in her group, or whatever, but just not "dated" before.
I am leaving him and the date out of this, except as it may have caused jealousy, friction or emotions by someone as a result.
JMO

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I guess the other girl can always say it wasn't her since there's multiple people with the same name.

It's already out there now. There's more than one Heather Elvis so bc of FOIA I think media will get away with it. Again, it's already out there now. Bc they live in such close proximity anyway, I'll bet several questions have gone her way. Poor gal.

 

[passionflower]

<Mod Snip>

I was thinking this also possible with the new info discussed here.

Scenario #1...ex who considerably older, could go into a frightened rage of being caught. HE possible called/texted to discuss this and met at PTL. Was this a common mtg place for them? Close proximity to his home or work?

Also, scenario #2...former boyfriend with possible violent tendencies knows she went on a date and wants to talk....begs to see her...says he's changed. Contacts HE to meet at PTL. Possibly goes into rage as she states she's moving on. Common mtg place for them? Proximity to home or work?

Just possible scenarios in my head.

HE just moved into her new apt. (2 weeks?) so maybe she didn't want a certain person to now where she was living......
OR HE knew there would be loud harsh words, knew others in building would be sleeping at that hour (3am?) and didn't want kicked out or LE called in so she decided to meet someone away from apt...............

 

[CC880]

Why is the length of the date weird?
Anyway, this may have been someone she had known for a while, in her group, or whatever, but just not "dated" before.
I am leaving him and the date out of this, except as it may have caused jealousy, friction or emotions by someone as a result.
JMO

Correct the spelling on the report do some looking through her SM and you will get your answer.

I've given a clue on page 1 I think or page 2

 

[cluciano63]

Or the guy did not want to been seen at or near her complex, so suggested a neutral place, or she did.

 

[Canaille]

This is so weird because I was going to come on tonight and let you all know that I was going to be scarce until there were new leads because I wasn't loving the vibe I was getting from the forum. Which isn't really a personal thing or someone's fault, it was more because of lack of information driving us all batty.

and then this is released... or leaked... or who even knows. It does help clear up the timeline but otherwise... I'm not sure it does much other good. :/

Also earlier in talks about politics, which I usually avoid like it's literally the plague (I'd rather keep my friends even if we have different opinions) someone mentioned another case where the missing person's mother tried contacting the POTUS. I found that odd and funny because I was thinking that same thing last night in bed and even started composing a letter in my head.

BBM... I hope it does more good than not by it being released. My hope is that the release of it will put a really tight squeeze on someone.

 

[paris_paris]

And you are 100% correct. HIPPA laws are very strict. This information should have been redacted, the right way, and made inadmissible for back door entry by the public.

The hidden information that isn't really hidden is still out there. Who would you contact to fix that?

 

[Topcat]

Right, that's a very, very long first date. He supposedly picked her up at around 7pm & drops her off 7+ hours later???? Wow!

I originally thought early on that she was dropped off at 10:30p and I wrote that it probably wasn't such a hot date for her. Then reading later on it was 2:00-2:30am it must have been pretty good especially having the new bf take a picture of her and forwarding to her dad. I feel pretty confident this guy had nothing to do with her disappearance.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Contact HCPD to voice this concern.

CC880, when a media source requests docs via foia, do police stress to them certain info that needs to be redacted, or do they just send the doc electronically & leave it up to media to do the redacting? If its up to the media to redact, can't police request they black mark it instead of a hovering black cloud covering? If not, and sense it's sensitive material, couldn't police do the redacting theirself before handing over the docs, or isn't that allowed? Does foia grant full paperwork without redacted info?

 

[Salem]

http://www.myhorrynews.com/pdf_02311a56-7d31-11e3-8f4c-001a4bcf6878.html

"Editor's Note: Horry County police have since said the person who was checked in at Conway Medical Center, according to the narrative, is a different Heather Elvis from the Heather Elvis who is missing."

Many thanks to Treelights.

No further discussion of the other HE, please and thank you.

Salem

And thank you Jersey Girl and all the others that responded :yourock: