SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #8

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Interesting new post under "Posts by Others" from 40 minutes ago
 
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:waitasec:


Completely O/T:

But IHAVENOCLUE can I tell you how much I love your name. I will read a comment and go to move on to the next one and see a BIG--
IHAVENOCLUE at the bottom of the post (because you've thanked them) but each time I giggle and say to myself yeah, me neither.

Thank you for providing me with a little source of light in this very frustrating case :)
 
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Question for others, at what time will or would a lie detector be requested? Is this something LE can ask for even if no one has been charged? Or is this something that someone would offer to do to reassure detectives of their truthfulness.

Curious about that, this is the first time I've been so closely watching missing persons case and don't know the protocol. TIA
 
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Question for others, at what time will or would a lie detector be requested? Is this something LE can ask for even if no one has been charged? Or is this something that someone would offer to do to reassure detectives of their truthfulness.

Curious about that, this is the first time I've been so closely watching missing persons case and don't know the protocol. TIA

they could have done them already (it does not mean they will be sharing that with the public)
 
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I have a question...how did WS members or other members of the public get the police repor?. I mean if you requested a copy directly...who do you contact? I know that most people just got it from MSM...but other than that is it possible for a non related, non media person to get one of those? Do you have to have special credentials or anything? Reason being, this is the first case I have EVER seen a released police report before court proceedings/sentencing. I am just wondering for my own interest as I would likely request one in several cases that I have previously followed. TIA
 
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Interesting new post under "Posts by Others" from 40 minutes ago

Yes, what is up with that? I haven't read a single thing about what that particular post mentions. Color me confused...

Boy, I wish I was a fly on the wall in Myrtle Beach today (don't we all?!) to know what is going on "behind the scenes!"


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It's a full moon. Maybe that will be the opening that lets us bring our moonchild home.
 
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Yes, what is up with that? I haven't read a single thing about what that particular post mentions. Color me confused...

Boy, I wish I was a fly on the wall in Myrtle Beach today (don't we all?!) to know what is going on "behind the scenes!"


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Question for others, at what time will or would a lie detector be requested? Is this something LE can ask for even if no one has been charged? Or is this something that someone would offer to do to reassure detectives of their truthfulness.

Curious about that, this is the first time I've been so closely watching missing persons case and don't know the protocol. TIA

BBM: I've seen cases where someone offers to take LDT and ended up being the perp. Funny little world we live in, it is.
ETA: A perp would offer it up mostly because they know it's not admissable (USUALLY) in court, and there is almost always an excuse as to why they might have gone wonky on a question. JMO, MOO
 
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Huh? Why on earth would that person (on www.facebook.com/findheatherelvis) write that ? NOW people will be questioning them. No reason to think they are involved at all. They have been very supportive from everything I have seen.

Very intelligent and classy response(s) about WS, :clap: to those who posted.
 
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Completely O/T:

But IHAVENOCLUE can I tell you how much I love your name. I will read a comment and go to move on to the next one and see a BIG--
IHAVENOCLUE at the bottom of the post (because you've thanked them) but each time I giggle and say to myself yeah, me neither.

Thank you for providing me with a little source of light in this very frustrating case :)

I am glad the name gives you some giggles... :giggle:

This is the way I feel very often! :crosseyed:

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Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24478865/heather-elvis-case-one-month-old

new article and video


Excellent article by the WMBF News Staff, imo.. Awareness is the key in missing persons investigations. The public is a very valuable investigative resource to squander, imo. Silence by Law Enforcement via ms media is the predators most lethal weapon. The HPD's antiquated silence investigative strategy in Heather Elvis's case has hampered a successful conclusion, imo. Media Management is critical in high profile cases. The HPD has had no press conferences since Heather's disappearance. There are 7 known unsolved missing/murdered females in Horry Co, SC in as many years. These cases may, or may not be related but according to the FBI, it only takes 2 victims to be serial killer related;

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder

Behavioral Analysis Unit-2
National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime
Critical Incident Response Group
Federal Bureau of Investigation

It becomes essential for law enforcement personnel involved in a serial murder investigation to design and implement an effective media plan. The plan should provide timely information on a regular basis, without compromising the investigative endeavors. It is essential for media releases to be closely coordinated with investigative strategies. This helps determine the best times to both educate and solicit information from the public concerning certain aspects of the investigation. Once a media plan is established, law enforcement can be more proactive than reactive in its media strategy.
 
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Testing...[modsnip].

Hoping heather is found soon.
 
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I'm looking for the newest map posted this morning...anyone have a link handy? I looked in the Timeline thread but couldn't find it. (Maybe I overlooked it?)
 
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they could have done them already (it does not mean they will be sharing that with the public)

Oh, thanks. So if someone passed the test they would probably want others to know, but if they didn't they would keep quiet. Just musings...
 
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Excellent article by the WMBF News Staff, imo.. Awareness is the key in missing persons investigations. The public is a very valuable investigative resource to squander, imo. Silence by Law Enforcement via ms media is the predators most lethal weapon. The HPD's antiquated silence investigative strategy in Heather Elvis's case has hampered a successful conclusion, imo. Media Management is critical in high profile cases. The HPD has had no press conferences since Heather's disappearance. There are 7 known unsolved missing/murdered females in Horry Co, SC in as many years. These cases may, or may not be related but according to the FBI, it only takes 2 victims to be serial killer related;

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder

Behavioral Analysis Unit-2
National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime
Critical Incident Response Group
Federal Bureau of Investigation

It becomes essential for law enforcement personnel involved in a serial murder investigation to design and implement an effective media plan. The plan should provide timely information on a regular basis, without compromising the investigative endeavors. It is essential for media releases to be closely coordinated with investigative strategies. This helps determine the best times to both educate and solicit information from the public concerning certain aspects of the investigation. Once a media plan is established, law enforcement can be more proactive than reactive in its media strategy.

Unfortunately, I can tell you that silence on the part of LE and usually the media has been the long-standing practice in Horry County. After all, tourism is the primary (only) industry. Can't be scaring away the $$ y'know..

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Oh, thanks. So if someone passed the test they would probably want others to know, but if they didn't they would keep quiet. Just musings...

Or, someone could have been asked and they refused = "being uncooperative"

Just a thought
 
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