GUILTY SC - Nine killed in Emanuel AME Church shooting, Charleston, 2015; Dylann Roof GUILTY #3

[Bravo]

The loss of these beautiful souls is beyond words.

 

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Karina Bolster ‏@KRBolster 4m4 minutes ago
Anthony says Myra was, "All about education. Being a doer." #chsnews #RoofTrial

Karina Bolster ‏@KRBolster 3m3 minutes ago
Anthony again recalls the conversation about them moving to Charlotte, NC to be closer to her grandkids. #chsnews #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 3m3 minutes ago
He says Myra was hoping to move to Charlotte. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Karina Bolster ‏@KRBolster 53s54 seconds ago
Anthony says it was around 2009/2010 when he said Myra felt a calling to go into the ministry. #chsnews #RoofTrial
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Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 2m2 minutes ago
Thompson begins talking about the day of June 17, 2015. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 1m1 minute ago
"She was focused on getting ready for Bible study," Thompson says. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 59s59 seconds ago
"She had this glow," Thompson remembers. "This smile on her face. She was radiant." #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

The Post and Courier ‏@postandcourier 1m1 minute ago
"That particular day, it was a good day," Rev. Thompson says of June 17, 2015. But that day was different. Listen: http://bit.ly/2hTSCGQ .

The Thread- Episode 1 : That Day Was Different (soundcloud)

https://soundcloud.com/user-480440265/s01-episode-1-that-day-was-different
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Abigail Darlington ‏@A_Big_Gail 6m6 minutes ago
Anthony said Myra "had this glow, this smile on her face, like she was radiant," the day she was set to lead first Bible Study on June 17.

Karina Bolster ‏@KRBolster 3m3 minutes ago
Anthony says Myra told him not to come. Anthony said he had vacation bible school that night at his church. #chsnews #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 2m2 minutes ago
He says he never kissed his wife that day, which was out of the ordinary. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 1m1 minute ago
"That was it. That was the last time I saw here," Thompson says, his voice trembling. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 20s20 seconds ago
He says he didn't walk her to the door, didn't kiss her, and didn't tell her he loves her. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Abigail Darlington ‏@A_Big_Gail 3m3 minutes ago
Anthony said as Myra was leaving for Bible Study, they met each other's gaze in the hallway. He felt paralyzed, like he couldn't get close.

Abigail Darlington ‏@A_Big_Gail 2m2 minutes ago
Anthony couldn't quite explain why he couldn't give Myra a proper goodbye. She kept saying "C'mon now, I'm leaving," & then she was gone.

Abigail Darlington ‏@A_Big_Gail 58s58 seconds ago
Anthony breaks down again on the witness stand. "That was it," he said. #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 3m3 minutes ago
He went to get her dinner, as she had requested. But she never returned home. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Karina Bolster ‏@KRBolster 1m1 minute ago
Anthony says he heard there was a shooting at #MotherEmanuel and drove downtown as soon as he could. #chsnews #RoofTrial

Abigail Darlington ‏@A_Big_Gail 17s18 seconds ago
Anthony got a call a few hours later about the shooting, dropped the phone and jumped in the car and headed to #EmanuelAME. #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 2m2 minutes ago
Someone on the phone told him of the shooting at Emanuel AME. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Abigail Darlington ‏@A_Big_Gail 1m1 minute ago
When he got there, an officer said everyone had been moved to the hotel across the street. Assumed Myra was there. #RoofTrial

Karina Bolster ‏@KRBolster 28s29 seconds ago
Anthony says Felicia Sanders told him "Myra is gone". Anthony says he said, "Oh no!" and he ran to the church. #chsnews #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 2m2 minutes ago
"Ms. Felicia looked at me and said, 'Myra's gone,'" he remembers. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Abigail Darlington ‏@A_Big_Gail 1m1 minute ago
Felicia said "Myra's gone." he turned around and ran back over to the church. An officer grabbed him, wouldn't let him in. #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 11s11 seconds ago
"I just lost it. I mean, for the first time, I lost control," he remembers. "I lost control." #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Abigail Darlington ‏@A_Big_Gail 49s50 seconds ago
"My wife is in there," Anthony pleaded with officer to let him in. "I just lost it. For the first time, I lost control." #RoofTrial

Abigail Darlington ‏@A_Big_Gail 23s24 seconds ago
"Next thing I know, I'm on the ground, somebody came and picked me up, one of the chaplains," Anthony said. "My world was just gone."

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 39s39 seconds ago
"My world was gone," he says. "I didn't know what to do, because everything I did was for her." #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Karina Bolster ‏@KRBolster 42s43 seconds ago
Anthony's voice breaks as he talks about how Myra was his world and she "was gone." #chsnews #RoofTrial

Abigail Darlington ‏@A_Big_Gail 1m1 minute ago
"I literally did not know what to do. Because everything I did, I did for her," Anthony said. crying now. "I still don't know what to do."

The Post and Courier ‏@postandcourier 2m2 minutes ago
"What am I here for if she's gone? What am I here for?" Rev. Anthony Thompson sobbing on the stand in #RoofTrial.

Abigail Darlington ‏@A_Big_Gail 15s16 seconds ago
"She was everything I had, everything I ever wanted, and my life will never be the same. Never, Never. Never," Anthony said. #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 1m1 minute ago
He continues, tearfully: "I still don't know what to do." #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 48s49 seconds ago
"She was everything. Everything I ever wanted. And my life will never be the same," he says. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

The Post and Courier ‏@postandcourier 9s9 seconds ago
As Rev. Anthony Thompson sobs, Dylann Roof looks on, expressionless. #RoofTrial
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Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 2m2 minutes ago
"God is carrying me right now," Thompson says. "That's all I have." #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 2m2 minutes ago
Roof objects to an exhibit the gov't attempts to introduce. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Karina Bolster ‏@KRBolster 3m3 minutes ago
Prosecution moves to enter a new photo into evidence. Roof rises and objects. "Sustained". #chsnews #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 2m2 minutes ago
The objection is sustained by Judge Gergel. Looks like it may have been a picture. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Abigail Darlington ‏@A_Big_Gail 4m4 minutes ago
#DylannRoof objex to a photo prosecution wants to introduce. Doesn't have any questions for witness. Anthony Thompson steps down. #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 2m2 minutes ago
"Nothing further, your honor," Prosecutor Richardson says. No cross-examination from Roof. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Karina Bolster ‏@KRBolster 2m2 minutes ago
No further questions from prosecution. No cross from Roof. Thompson steps down. He was final witness of day. #chsnews #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 2m2 minutes ago
"It's time for us to call it a day," Gergel tells the jury. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 33s34 seconds ago
"Mr. Richardson, let me say this," Gergel says. "At some point, we get too much -- too long." #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Karina Bolster ‏@KRBolster 1m1 minute ago
Gergel now addresses prosecution, saying at some point the testimony is getting too long. #chsnews #RoofTrial

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 26s27 seconds ago
Gergel asks Richardson to "streamline" his case and do it "more efficiently." #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial

Karina Bolster ‏@KRBolster 2m2 minutes ago
"I think we need to do this more efficiently," Gergel says. #chsnews #RoofTrial

Abigail Darlington ‏@A_Big_Gail 2m2 minutes ago
Court adjourned after Judge Gergel instructs gov't to streamline questioning process of witnesses. #RoofTrial continues at 9:30 a.m.

Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 2m2 minutes ago
"See you at 9:30 tomorrow morning," Judge Gergel says. #sctweets @wis10 #RoofTrial
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Church shooter Dylann Roof says there is nothing wrong with him psychologically

"Emanuel AME Church shooter Dylann Roof told a federal jury this morning that there is nothing wrong with him psychologically and urged them to forget the words of his former attorney who suggested otherwise.

With his life on the line, Roof spoke to the jury for less than five minutes during his opening statement in the hate crime trial's penalty phase. "There is nothing wrong with me psychologically," he said.

This was the first time the 22-year-old white supremacist had addressed the 12-member jury that convicted him last month of 33 federal offenses. They are now mulling whether he should receive a death sentence or a life prison term for the killing of nine black worshipers who welcomed him to their weekly Bible study in June 2015.

Before his conviction, his former attorney, noted capital defense lawyer David Bruck, urged the jury to ponder Roof's state of mind and whether a rationale person would see the murder of nine innocents as an acceptable solution to his perceived problems with black people.

"I would ask you to forget all of that," Roof told the jury in a hollow, flat voice..."

http://www.postandcourier.com/churc...cle_82f987f2-d226-11e6-9572-83b5b111a59e.html
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Dylann Roof made a chilling, unapologetic statement on the first day of his sentencing trial

"...Roof’s ended his brief remarks by asking jurors to forget “anything that my lawyer said” during the earlier trial phase..."

https://www.ifliix.xyz/2017/01/04/d...ent-on-the-first-day-of-his-sentencing-trial/
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The Post and Courier ‏@postandcourier 34s35 seconds ago
The Post and Courier Retweeted Abigail Darlington
🔊 Listen to an excerpt from one of Clementa Pinckney's sermons in this week's episode of #TheThread: http://bit.ly/2iATmRS . #RoofTrial

The Thread- Episode 6- The Church (soundcast)

"In its history, Mother Emanuel AME Church has endured much pain. And on the night of June 17, 2015, it, too, was a victim. We explore the history of this special church in downtown Charleston, and the cultural significance of black churches in the South."

https://soundcloud.com/user-480440265/s01-episode-6-the-church
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Maryjane Presson ‏@maryjanep515 3m3 minutes ago
Dylann Roof Speaks for First Time at Murder Trial #TorieStrong

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[YESorNO]

Dylann Roof murder trial: 'I do not regret what I did. I am not sorry' (with video of Video of Dylann Roof's arrest)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...der-trial-sentencing-no-regrets-a7510001.html
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[YESorNO]

What’s up next in the federal trial of Dylann Roof?

"CHARLESTON, S.C. — Jurors return to court Wednesday to begin considering whether Dylann Roof will receive the death penalty or life in prison for the 2015 massacre at a historic black church in South Carolina that left nine Bible study participants dead.

Last month, the same jury took less than two hours to find Roof guilty of all 33 federal counts against him, including hate crimes and obstruction of religion. After a three-week break over the holidays, jurors are now tasked with the ultimate fate of the 22-year-old who confessed his role in the shootings to FBI agents hours after his arrest.

Here’s what has happened in his trial and what to expect...."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...4a0154cf5b3_story.html?utm_term=.0f819c1abbab
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[Spellbound]

Have any family members been present in court? I have not heard of any since the day his mother was taken from court due to a possible heart attack.

 

[YESorNO]

Haven't heard, except when his mother was at trial the first day, that anyone from Roof's family is in court.
I don't tweet, so can anyone maybe tweet one of our reporters to ask them if Roof's family is in court?

 

[LyndyLoo]

I honestly don't believe he doesn't feel a thing for those people. I think his words and facial expressions betray him. But every time he starts to feel something, shame, remorse, sadness, he does the ole' "I had to do it for the white people," to convince himself it had to be done and distract from those feelings. Obviously, he is going to get the death penalty. There's just no argument that can be made, especially if he's not going for mental illness. He didn't even have the courage to off himself. The whole thing is just so utterly tragic and pointless. He did this, killed those nine good, wonderful hearted people for what? A bit of noteriety?

I don't know. Maybe I'm totally wrong.

Thanks so much to Yes or No for posting the tweets. Following along in lurkdom.

He may very well acknowledge some wrong doing..BUT the difference is HE doesn't CARE!! His Pea Brain rationalizes it a something "Necessary".. Much of these mind sets by extremists completely lines up with ANY group who justifies their EXTREMISTS view. Yes..Even Islamic Extremists!!

Often, such folks like this get indoctrinated... just like any online converted disenfranchised types..to commit horrendous crimes! But, in the end, ALL such peeps are radicalized by promotions of false narratives.. which really isn't so different than America's ALT-RIght Mis-Informations/*********/Infowars propaganda Cr@p!!

So KKK.. Government hating types along with Black hating, or taxes or Rules boundaries and limitations ..LOL Poor Dylann had no filter nor direction..and bought into that HE was better, because he was a "Whitey" than those low lives..According to him..Those Low lives must PAY the price??????

I know he doesn't want to be considered Mentally Ill..BUT he sure does exhibit a personality that has been "Brainwashed" without being in a Government program! So cannot blame some covert Government program..

I'm sure KKK and White Nationalists would love to blame Government.. But other than some politicians who spread cr@p and lies.. There is NO program!

 

[borndem]

Originally Posted by MsJosie

Just what is up with the birth certificate.....I am missing the issue here. Unless he is lying about his age, he is adopted, what else could be on it? Has it ever been released?

Thanks

Same here, Ms. Josie. I don't know if it would be indicated on a birth cert, but could he have been adopted or born with a drug addiction? Or at least one parent is not biological? I can't think of any other reason it would matter.

Joining this discussion late, I was out all day so I'm catching up -- the only thing with the Birth Cert. that I could think of is that the judge wants to make sure that this guy is indeed 18 years or older since people under 18 cannot be sentenced to death. That's kind of "out there, " I know, but that's what I've been thinking all along with this B. Cert. thing.

 

[borndem]

Reminds me of one of those stupid word problems

Could never do them still can't ha!

Time Zones :

Niner time zone 1. 1 hour ahead

Church time zone 2 exact same time (!) whatever time that is !!

Web sleuths time zone 3 3 hour ahead

Poster CARRIS time zone 4 6 hours behind.

Please determine the answers to the following based on the above information:


If Niner had an errand to run a 4pm would the trial have started? If Websluteths site had a technical error and was down from 4am-6 am would this impact when posters could post on the trial? If Carris had a question , what Is the first hour Carris could send a question to Niner. If the court had a power black out at 5pm what time would that be Niner? For the website? For Carris? If court starts a 5 pm what time is that for Niner? On the webslueths site? For Carris? For folks in the churches time zone?

I always wanted to write "if your so curious about all this go figure it out yourself - I do not care!!!""

ha!!


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I hate 'em, too.

All I know is that GMT is 5 hours ahead of us here in North Carolina -- now that DST is off. :scared:
:worms:

:nevermind:

 

[CARIIS]

Joining this discussion late, I was out all day so I'm catching up -- the only thing with the Birth Cert. that I could think of is that the judge wants to make sure that this guy is indeed 18 years or older since people under 18 cannot be sentenced to death. That's kind of "out there, " I know, but that's what I've been thinking all along with this B. Cert. thing.

What else could it be? What is so weird this happened a long time ago WHy now?? Its a mass murder , one would think age would have been determined before now - unless it is some defense strategy to muddle everything up



National Security
Charleston church shooter: ‘I would like to make it crystal clear, I do not regret what I did

 

[CARIIS]

Judge agrees with Roof, nixes prosecutor exhibit

Goodness watch him turn out to be Perry Mason!


[FONT=&amp]two pieces of evidence submitted by prosecutors shouldn't be introduced in court.

[/FONT]U.S. District Judge Richard Gergel sustained a rare objection by Roof on It's not clear what the photos were of. T brief opening statement that he has no psychological problems. [FONT=&amp]not asked any questions on cross-examination.


[/FONT][FONT=&amp]that there is nothing wrong with him psychologically and that his lawyers forced him to go through two competency hearings. [/FONT][FONT=&amp]He stood at a podium and slowly and calmly spoke to the jurors, glancing occasionally at notes in front of him.

He told jurors there wasn't anything he was trying to keep secret from them and said he was better at embarrassing himself than anyone else.

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]he was worried they might present embarrassing evidence about him or his family.. [/FONT][FONT=&amp]he prosecutors say Roof didn't show any remorse, and they read a portion from a journal found in Roof's jail cell six weeks after his arrest.

In the journal, Roof said he had not wept for any of the victims and did not regret what he did. [/FONT][FONT=&amp]U.S. District Judge Richard Gergel says it's important prosecutors and Roof "are on the same playing field" in terms of how the jury views their roles in the courtroom.

[/FONT]https://www.mail.com/news/politics/4873690-latest-judge-agrees-with-roof-nixes-prosecutor-exh.html#.7518-stage-hero1-3

 

[YESorNO]

The Marshall Project@MarshallProj
In this #longread, get a look at our nation’s systemic racism, through the lens of the #DylannRoof trial

‘See What Y’All Can Work Out’: The State of Empathy in Charleston
Charleston’s—and our nation’s—systemic racism, through the lens of the Dylann Roof trial.

"The sentencing phase of Emanuel AME Church shooter Dylann Roof’s trial for racially-motivated mass murder is scheduled to begin on Wednesday, January 4th, 2017. The white supremacist’s trial brought together two writers of color—Shani Gilchrist, one of a small group of black reporters in the press room, and Alison Kinney, an Asian-American living in New York—who, prior to the trial, knew each other only from Facebook. Here they write about their experience in Charleston. They write about banding together to get better access to the story; about resisting white supremacy with creative collaboration and strategic silence; about working together to figure out the ethical responsibility of storytelling now—and to find hope and friendship in their conversations.

1. We write:...
The few attempts to depict the unusual dynamics inside the courtroom resulted in inaccuracies, like a piece in Slate claiming Roof’s mother had a heart attack after hearing the testimony of survivor Felicia Sanders. The truth was, Roof’s mother collapsed earlier that day, when court was adjourned for lunch, after the prosecution and then the defense gave opening statements. I was seated two rows behind, and didn’t see his mother fall over to lie down on the bench. By the time I noticed something was off, all I could see was her belly button ring, revealed as her cropped t-shirt pulled up and exposed the gap above her sky blue leggings. Her partner sat next to her, talking softly, calmly. His mustache barely twitched. After a minute or two, she was sitting up again and his arm was draped casually across her shoulders. She was talking. Making sense. A stretcher was on its way as a safety precaution. Later, we would learn of Roof’s yearning for his mother, and I wondered—no matter the state of her health, her mental state, or her demeanor—if he’d really considered how his actions would affect her movement through the world.

Once it was apparent that the woman would be fine, the rest of us filed out of the courtroom..."

https://longreads.com/2017/01/03/see-what-yall-can-work-out-the-state-of-empathy-in-charleston/
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Charleston can lead the country by getting its story straight
Lose the Forgiveness Narrative

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/...etting-its-story-straight/Content?oid=6311921
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Opinion: Why Dylann Roof Has a Right to the Death Penalty

"Dylann Roof has a constitutional right not to try to spare his own life.

U.S. District Judge Richard Gergel did the wise thing last week when he ordered a new competency hearing for Roof, the Charleston church shooter who does not want to put on a mental health defense when he represents himself Wednesday at the start of the penalty phase of his capital trial in South Carolina.

Gergel may understand there probably will be some sort of an appeal of Roof's conviction and sentence, regardless of what it ends up being, and that this appeal will focus primarily on the delicate dance Roof has had with his court-appointed lawyers (and his own self-representation) as the case has evolved. By making a new competency finding Monday, one that essentially updates the initial one, the judge almost certainly has made it measurably harder for any appeal to succeed — while at the same time ensuring Roof's fair trial rights...

For all the hand-wringing over the constitutionality (and morality) of self-representation in a capital case, for all the arguments that every capital defendant should always present every non-frivolous defense at trial, the truth is that Roof has a constitutional right not to present a defense, to choose to increase the likelihood he'll get the death penalty instead of a life sentence without the possibility of parole.

It is not necessarily a sign of mental illness, or mental instability, or mental incompetence, to take responsibility for one's murderous actions rather than blame them, in some fashion, on some sort of mental disease or defect. Some killers, like McVeigh, saw it as one final act of control over their lives. This may be why Roof on Wednesday in his first direct interaction with jurors chose not to beg for his life but rather to tell the panel: "There is nothing wrong with me psychologically."..."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ch...y-dylann-roof-has-right-death-penalty-n702711
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Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 10h10 hours ago
The court just released the exhibits from today. Most are touching pictures of Clementa Pinckney. @wis10 #sctweets #RoofTrial

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