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The confession was, IMO, so so telling about where this child is:
world looks down on him. -- That fits with the excitement he displayed whenever he was able to answer a question in the confession.
He is self-conscious (anxiety displayed when told he would be photographed)
has some resentment directed at his family.”(The family history is pretty dysfunctional IMO- he was moved all over the place, for someone who has social skills deficits, who would find it hard to socialize anyway, being tossed around exacerbates that imo )
Mom said she noticed a reality sudden deterioration in academic performance.
His physical size certainly isn't adult or manly- I would think peers were cruel. His voice is somewhat effeminate.
If he responded in class like he did in the confession, I would think peers would process that as "dumb" and interact with him accordingly.
Despite the chaotic upbringing, in the confession, he became alarmed when he felt as if they would go after his parents for not locking up the gun. That is an emotional concern imo. It is also IMO not putting the whole picture "together".
That is what children do , when there are abuse concerns, they are afraid mommy or daddy will be in trouble or mad at them.
A 19-year-old functioning at that developmental level would "know" that LE are not really concerned if the box was locked, or what kind if drugs he used in the past.
But it was IMO, like a child, connecting only to ,that he had, in the past, gotten in trouble FOR drugs - so that connection was established for him. But he could not grasp that it had no relevance in the here and now.
That is child thought processing, IMO.
The more that comes out it seems like little big man stuff. My guess is his "manifesto" was not really thought out, or his writing (like on his own) but points of view he got online, and an attempt to appear "smart" a descriptor that eluded him all his life.
There are passages in there (word choice and use) that def seem above his capabilities as demonstrated verbally in the confession.
IMO he was very childlike verbally.
He seemed to have , on many occasions problem with the concept of "time".
I didn't feel like he was pretending when he asked what month it was, later what day of the week, later having trouble with when he saw the movie, or worked with his dad. He had trouble with where he slept the night before - all "time" stuff.
It takes time for children to grasp the notion of "time" as a concept.
There IMO was also a very concreteness to his processing. I do not remember the exact stage, but in developing-- humans evolve cognitively to be able to foresee the future, to process things in their entirety- he is delayed.
When asked if he would escape - tone of voice and response was very concrete.
When endlessly asked about why "now" he truly could not define why he chose that night. As it went on it struck me as he really had no idea, then or now, as to why he did it when he did.
Impulsive stuff. mo only
BUT his planning ahead hit me as if he struggled with doing it. Like both planning and hesitating.
Even after he got himself in the church room, he described wavering, and then impulsively deciding to go ahead .
I wish the dude sitting directly across from him (not the one with the back of his head toward camera) did more of it. jmo
IMO he was far more skilled- he could sit in silence as Dylann formulated answers, where as it appeared as if the other guy got uneasy when there pauses in the interaction and felt the need to interject.
When the other guy left and he was alone with the other one compelling stuff happened, cause the guy was able to let roof "marinate" his thoughts.
IMO, that portion of it was the most enlightening - it gave insight into what was actually going on in his head in the moment. imo
He wanted mommy, he wanted a shower, he wanted to know where he would sleep, he was not hungry, did need the potty, was concerned about what he would wear, was confused if he had gotten himself in more "trouble".
Children are concerned with those things.
The confusion he experienced when initialising the drawing , and later with the car, very childlike. moo
He admitted to burning the kitchen , but when asked if he had taken a chocolate chip cookie he was concerned about "that" getting him in trouble. Unable to connect that he just confessed to shooting and killing multiple people- he is just not connecting the dots.
But adults do find children, in their purity, insightful. He was incredulous that they did not already search the car. It hit me like I thought you already took my Nintendo away. mo
Some trust issues emerged when told he had shot 9 people - he asked if they were messing with him. Authority figures in the past have probably "tricked" him before.
If one thinks about it as an adult , charged with 33 felonies, an adult would be thinking about other things.
A child wonders about those basic needs, a fully developed mind would realize that there were far bigger problems ahead than what one would wear when his clothes were taken.
He is concrete- that is how kids process the world around them -- in the moment- limited insight into future consequences.
IMO< Not wanting to think about things - children do that - or when asked something that requires some adult future thinking he came up with "I do not know" which he did frequently.
His apparent inability to have a relationship with a female, IMO is also indicative of stalling out at an earlier point in life.
At that age (19) sex is pretty much all males thing about!! He drank. The lack of sexual activity (he stated such) seems more pronounced in that even when under the influence it did not soften his fears and anxieties.
One report mentioned xanex in addition to the other one. A desire to calm down? a guess?
IMO they are dealing with a 5 or 6 year old - mentally and emotionally.
The guy directly across from him IMO seemed to get that pretty early on. When Dylann looked confused (the guy said so a couple of times) he reframed whatever they were asking to a more concrete specific question.
My ramblings only!
world looks down on him. -- That fits with the excitement he displayed whenever he was able to answer a question in the confession.
He is self-conscious (anxiety displayed when told he would be photographed)
has some resentment directed at his family.”(The family history is pretty dysfunctional IMO- he was moved all over the place, for someone who has social skills deficits, who would find it hard to socialize anyway, being tossed around exacerbates that imo )
Mom said she noticed a reality sudden deterioration in academic performance.
His physical size certainly isn't adult or manly- I would think peers were cruel. His voice is somewhat effeminate.
If he responded in class like he did in the confession, I would think peers would process that as "dumb" and interact with him accordingly.
Despite the chaotic upbringing, in the confession, he became alarmed when he felt as if they would go after his parents for not locking up the gun. That is an emotional concern imo. It is also IMO not putting the whole picture "together".
That is what children do , when there are abuse concerns, they are afraid mommy or daddy will be in trouble or mad at them.
A 19-year-old functioning at that developmental level would "know" that LE are not really concerned if the box was locked, or what kind if drugs he used in the past.
But it was IMO, like a child, connecting only to ,that he had, in the past, gotten in trouble FOR drugs - so that connection was established for him. But he could not grasp that it had no relevance in the here and now.
That is child thought processing, IMO.
The more that comes out it seems like little big man stuff. My guess is his "manifesto" was not really thought out, or his writing (like on his own) but points of view he got online, and an attempt to appear "smart" a descriptor that eluded him all his life.
There are passages in there (word choice and use) that def seem above his capabilities as demonstrated verbally in the confession.
IMO he was very childlike verbally.
He seemed to have , on many occasions problem with the concept of "time".
I didn't feel like he was pretending when he asked what month it was, later what day of the week, later having trouble with when he saw the movie, or worked with his dad. He had trouble with where he slept the night before - all "time" stuff.
It takes time for children to grasp the notion of "time" as a concept.
There IMO was also a very concreteness to his processing. I do not remember the exact stage, but in developing-- humans evolve cognitively to be able to foresee the future, to process things in their entirety- he is delayed.
When asked if he would escape - tone of voice and response was very concrete.
When endlessly asked about why "now" he truly could not define why he chose that night. As it went on it struck me as he really had no idea, then or now, as to why he did it when he did.
Impulsive stuff. mo only
BUT his planning ahead hit me as if he struggled with doing it. Like both planning and hesitating.
Even after he got himself in the church room, he described wavering, and then impulsively deciding to go ahead .
I wish the dude sitting directly across from him (not the one with the back of his head toward camera) did more of it. jmo
IMO he was far more skilled- he could sit in silence as Dylann formulated answers, where as it appeared as if the other guy got uneasy when there pauses in the interaction and felt the need to interject.
When the other guy left and he was alone with the other one compelling stuff happened, cause the guy was able to let roof "marinate" his thoughts.
IMO, that portion of it was the most enlightening - it gave insight into what was actually going on in his head in the moment. imo
He wanted mommy, he wanted a shower, he wanted to know where he would sleep, he was not hungry, did need the potty, was concerned about what he would wear, was confused if he had gotten himself in more "trouble".
Children are concerned with those things.
The confusion he experienced when initialising the drawing , and later with the car, very childlike. moo
He admitted to burning the kitchen , but when asked if he had taken a chocolate chip cookie he was concerned about "that" getting him in trouble. Unable to connect that he just confessed to shooting and killing multiple people- he is just not connecting the dots.
But adults do find children, in their purity, insightful. He was incredulous that they did not already search the car. It hit me like I thought you already took my Nintendo away. mo
Some trust issues emerged when told he had shot 9 people - he asked if they were messing with him. Authority figures in the past have probably "tricked" him before.
If one thinks about it as an adult , charged with 33 felonies, an adult would be thinking about other things.
A child wonders about those basic needs, a fully developed mind would realize that there were far bigger problems ahead than what one would wear when his clothes were taken.
He is concrete- that is how kids process the world around them -- in the moment- limited insight into future consequences.
IMO< Not wanting to think about things - children do that - or when asked something that requires some adult future thinking he came up with "I do not know" which he did frequently.
His apparent inability to have a relationship with a female, IMO is also indicative of stalling out at an earlier point in life.
At that age (19) sex is pretty much all males thing about!! He drank. The lack of sexual activity (he stated such) seems more pronounced in that even when under the influence it did not soften his fears and anxieties.
One report mentioned xanex in addition to the other one. A desire to calm down? a guess?
IMO they are dealing with a 5 or 6 year old - mentally and emotionally.
The guy directly across from him IMO seemed to get that pretty early on. When Dylann looked confused (the guy said so a couple of times) he reframed whatever they were asking to a more concrete specific question.
My ramblings only!
