SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #15

[LetsSolvIt]

Maybe I'm not doing it correct, but I have searched and searched for the media thread and can't find it. I'm new here so I'm still trying to figure out how to navigate.

Okay, I posted two images on the Media thread. Hope they help you

SC - Paul Murdaugh,22 & Mom Margaret,52, 7 June 2021 *Media, Maps, Timeline-NO DISCUSSION*

New aerial of KENNELS. It is thought that long building between the red-roofed equipment shed and timber is the sheltered kennels, and the perpendicular cages between timber and bushes are open-air kennels.

www.websleuths.com

P.S. Welcome!

 

[KentuckyFilly79]

Okay, I posted two images on the Media thread. Hope they help you

SC - Paul Murdaugh,22 & Mom Margaret,52, 7 June 2021 *Media, Maps, Timeline-NO DISCUSSION*

New aerial of KENNELS. It is thought that long building between the red-roofed equipment shed and timber is the sheltered kennels, and the perpendicular cages between timber and bushes are open-air kennels.

www.websleuths.com

P.S. Welcome!

Thanks! That confirms that I was correct in where I thought the bodies were located.

 

[Boodles]

Re: Maggie and Paul getting down to the area near the kennels...

Do you think AM gave them a ride down there after dinner? They could have all gotten out, then AM surprised them with the shooting soon after.

Was Maggie's car up by the house? The truck Paul was driving up by the house too?

And I am still trying to figure out why AM told Maggie to come see his dad, follow him in her car. I mean, I realize it was a way to trick her to get her to the property (if he was planning her murder), but then you would think that he would have actually gone to see his dad later just to make it seem like his story was true. But he went to see his mom (at her home), not his dad (in the hospital).

All MOO.

Yes, I think he drove them over to the kennels, with MM thinking she’d accompany him to his mother’s or she’d just hang out with Paul while he checked whatever he was checking.

 

[Warwick7]

I want to know more about the water.
DM sure move off of that fast. MOO

 

[BeachSky]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618784655955890178

That scary still photo of AM from the bodycam …it reminds me of what Gloria Satterfield’s family lawyer said today…
Remember, AM is a master actor!


Edited to add “master” actor
What horror.
MOO

 

[Boodles]

I want to know more about the water.
DM sure move off of that fast. MOO

He couldn’t go further just then due to the objection. But the defense will likely have to address the inference and the prosecution can get to it on redirect or via another witness. MOO.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618727236059684865

 

[clearskies1]

Yes, I think he drove them over to the kennels, with MM thinking she’d accompany him to his mother’s or she’d just hang out with Paul while he checked whatever he was checking.

DH claimed in the opening that there is a snapchat video of AM and PM riding together at 7:30 or 8pm the night of the murders looking at trees they had planted .... so his attorney is putting AM and PM in a vehicle together a short time before the killings.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618813546447372288

 

[skyedaze]

Re: Maggie and Paul getting down to the area near the kennels...

Do you think AM gave them a ride down there after dinner? They could have all gotten out, then AM surprised them with the shooting soon after.

Was Maggie's car up by the house? The truck Paul was driving up by the house too?

And I am still trying to figure out why AM told Maggie to come see his dad, follow him in her car. I mean, I realize it was a way to trick her to get her to the property (if he was planning her murder), but then you would think that he would have actually gone to see his dad later just to make it seem like his story was true. But he went to see his mom (at her home), not his dad (in the hospital).

All MOO.

I think he gave them a ride to the kennels. That way he has the keys to the only vehicle down there.....no one else can jump in a drive off to escape.

 

[skyedaze]

I want to know more about the water.
DM sure move off of that fast. MOO

yeah wassup with that water?

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618739520433975296

 

[vls12345]

The other thing I'm wondering...

DH has said AM and Paul were riding around looking at trees (was that before or after dinner the three ate at the house?). And, since neither Maggie's nor Paul's vehicles were near/at the dog kennel area (I'll assume for now they were up near the house instead), I will guess that AM drove them to the kennel area.

Then, murders.

Then, AM left to go to his mom's to create his alibi. Did he leave from the kennel area or did he first run by the house again to wash/change?

When he returned, did he come in the driveway by the kennel end because it's how he always drove in or because it was the closer entrance driveway when coming from his mom's or because he knew there was a scene there for him to "discover"?

If he was innocent & actually turned in & saw the bodies, why/when did he have the wherewithal to take his truck around the "lean-to" building so that his vehicle could be parked to shine the lights on Paul? (I think that's what was described during testimony today, correct?)

To borrow from @LetsSolvIt 's photo with labels in the media thread, I've added where I think (& I could be **totally** wrong) AM's car might have been. If so, why would he come in that way so late, after dark, drive around the building & "know" to look there? Or did he drive straight in (parallel to the kennels), then stop when he noticed Paul? When he went to the house to get a gun while waiting on LE, how did he drive? Past Paul, possibly obliterating evidence? Or back up a little, then circle the "lean to" building, then up to the house? When did he see or discover Maggie? It seems like she might have been slightly around a corner of the building?



I would like to know the supposed car movements. All of them.

This entire post is very much my own speculation & MOO.

ETA:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618784655955890178

And a closeup of that photo with the vehicle headlights on...

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Also, I'm wondering why Maggie would be at the kennel area. The other question I have is if there were no other tire tracks, how did AM allegedly get rid of the guns and MM's phone?

I'm thinking he hid the gun wrapped in the blue rain jacket that was referred to in AG's opening statement, somewhere around Moselle where he could quickly run on foot (a deer stand in the timber? a hole he had dug somewhere before the crime?). Maybe the caretaker's house? I don't think anyone was living there -- I thought Rowe had been fired.

Then a few days later, early in the morning, he dumped it permanently (in some swamp or river? off one of his islands?), then took the blue rain coat upstairs at Mom's house to hide it. MOO.

I have always felt AM threw Maggie's phone out the window as he was driving over to his parents' house that night. Maybe LE will know from his GPS.

People have said from the get-go that Maggie loved the dogs. But then we have Cuzin Eddy's version.

Only musings. MOO.

 

[clearskies1]

yeah wassup with that water?

I wasn't following that part closely today -- could the State be thinking that AM washed blood off himself in that water?

 

[LetsSolvIt]

I don't mean to be a smart alec. But I ware my flip flops even in winter. I zip into them and zip all over the place. You cant separate me from my flip flops. Lol!
Is there a slight chance MM was the same way?

Maybe so -- it just sounds like a long walk from house to kennel. I'm laughing with you being a smart alec!

edit: maybe in this thread we shouldn't use the moniker "smart alec." LOL.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

<snipped> .... And I am still trying to figure out why AM told Maggie to come see his dad, follow him in her car. I mean, I realize it was a way to trick her to get her to the property (if he was planning her murder), but then you would think that he would have actually gone to see his dad later just to make it seem like his story was true. But he went to see his mom (at her home), not his dad (in the hospital).

All MOO.

BBM : yes, this is a question I have had.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Re: Maggie and Paul getting down to the area near the kennels...

Do you think AM gave them a ride down there after dinner? They could have all gotten out, then AM surprised them with the shooting soon after.

Was Maggie's car up by the house? The truck Paul was driving up by the house too?

And I am still trying to figure out why AM told Maggie to come see his dad, follow him in her car. I mean, I realize it was a way to trick her to get her to the property (if he was planning her murder), but then you would think that he would have actually gone to see his dad later just to make it seem like his story was true. But he went to see his mom (at her home), not his dad (in the hospital).

All MOO.

BBM: You know this makes sense because the AG's theory is that AM shot them, went to his Mom's house, and then came back to feign just finding them.

Alec takes them all down after dinner and that's when Paul captures the video of them talking about the dogs and the chicken. Then bam, the murder occurs. Alex leaves and his travels fill the next hour.

 

[vls12345]

Excuse my poor drawing skills....

Here's an aerial photo (from the real estate site when it was listed for sale) that mostly shows where the house (bottom center of the photo) was in relation to the kennels/lean-to shed (upper center left of the photo), the two driveway entrances, the road.




Now, I want to know where/how AM drove his vehicle at various times coming & going....

MOO.

ETA: My drawings are not to scale, the road may be further away, etc. This is just to show a general layout....

 

[Shadow@light]

AM was at his own house. Washing off and changing clothes would have been quick and easy.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but was also raining that night. If not it would be easy have a Garbage bag,strip off clothes place in bag go into house showeretc.