SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #19

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1622624760138985472

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1621599315578740743

Tweet is from Feb. 3, 2023.

Thus far, no family pics as they head into courthouse were located today to my understanding unless I missed it. However, AM's family are in the courtroom today sitting together behind AM.

 

[mystery_cat]

Good morning all! I agree with all of you - Tinsley is an excellent witness. Enjoying this testimony!

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1622625213086154757

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1622625555278442496

 

[mystery_cat]

"I think the fuse was lit when he started stealing money." - Tinsley

 

[sunshineray]

"I think the fuse was lit when he started stealing money"

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1622625555278442496

 

[Diddian]

Tinsley: “Maybe, in this imaginary world of things that didn’t happen…”

(Chuckle.)

Tinsley so well demonstrates courage against the Murdaugh dynasty and its ability to intimidate, bully, and force their way.

it would be GREAT to put that example before this jury.

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1622625947257131009

 

[rescuemom]

Murdaugh had a good understanding of emotional reading of people and knew what made people tick. After the murders did it have any impact on your case (Beach)? Yes, shock and horror after the murders and Tinsley felt if Alex was a victim of a vigilante justice he felt the case would be over. He would have probably taken the last offer from Alex's side.

AM was good a spewing BS!!!!

 

[girlhasnoname]

State, had that hearing taking place on June 10th 2021? What is the net effect, "everything he's ever done' says Tinsley.

 

[Edvis]

'I don't think you need a full scale forensic audit for something a 5 year-old can see'

Loved that quote, so should they hand out Binkies for the defense now?.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1622626558325268485

 

[sunshineray]

Bravo Mr. Tinsley <3

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1622626972810502146

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1622626972810502146

 

[sunshineray]

Oooooo it's coming in I think. Whatever AM said to an attorney at PMPED!

 

[girlhasnoname]

Jim Griffin still doesn't know what going on with this conversation about the June 10th meeting the State wants to bring into evidence. Judge allows Ronnie Crosby to the stand.

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/AveryGWilks

The state will continue to call witnesses this week, financial and otherwise. Expect to hear from Murdaugh's older brother, Randy Murdaugh, as well as Curtis "Cousin Eddie" Smith, the Walterboro trucker charged with acting as Murdaugh's accomplice on a host of money/drug crimes.

I got to the courthouse about an hour before it is set to open. There was a line waiting to get in even then. Expecting a packed courtroom today

One of Murdaugh's insurance carriers that paid out a big sum in the case, Nautilus, has filed a lawsuit alleging the whole claim was a fraud. We've covered that.

We know for sure we will hear from Mark Tinsley this morning with the jury excused. He is the attorney for the family of Mallory Beach, who sued the Murdaughs after the 2019 boat crash that killed Beach. Paul was criminally charged with drunkenly driving the boat as it crashed.

Tinsley will likely testify about his efforts to compel Murdaugh to disclose his finances. During the course of that case, Murdaugh had claimed he was broke and had no money to pay the Beach family. Tinsley wanted proof. A hearing was scheduled for June 10, 2021, on the issue.

Maggie and Paul Murdaugh were killed three days before the hearing, and it was postponed and never rescheduled. Murdaughs attorneys say there is no evidence their client was actually going to have to detail his finances at or after that 6/10/21 hearing, so this is all moot.

Court is back in session. As expected, the state calls Beach family attorney Mark Tinsley to the stand.

Tinsley's the state's 7th financial witness. We've heard from PMPED CFO Jeanne Seckinger, Michael Gunn of Forge Consulting, Bamberg lawyer Chris Wilson, Palmetto State Bank CEO Jan Malinowski, Tony Satterfield (Gloria's son) and state grand jury forensic accountant Carson Burney.

Tinsley testifies that Murdaugh had some - but not much - insurance coverage available to pay out to the boat crash victims. Tinsley said he demanded a substantial amount to be paid personally to the Beach family by Murdaugh himself.

Tinsley: “The Beach family stood on the causeway for eight days while their daughter’s body was in the water.” There was no amount of money someone would willingly take to go through what they went through.

Tinsley testifies Alex Murdaugh approached him at a trial lawyers’ association function ssaid something like: “Hey bo, what’s this I’m hearing about what you’re saying. I thought we were friends.”

Tinsley: “I took it as him trying to intimidate me … and sort of bullying me into backing off.”

Tinsley testifies that in fall 2020, he was told Alex Murdaugh was broke and could cobble together only about $1 million to give the Beaches in a settlement. Tinsley said he didn’t believe that. “I know that he’s actively making money, and he just can’t possibly be broke …"

Tinsley continued: "... if he’s making money the way he’s making money.” The Beaches were aware of the Murdaughs’ “generational wealth as well.” Tinsley testifies $1 million was nowhere enough for the Beach family.

“They want accountability,” Tinsley said of his clients. “They want a pound of flesh. Whatever that’s going to be, it’s only going to be from a jury or from a substantial settlement.”

Tinsley testifies his push to reveal Alex Murdaugh's finances and secure a huge payout from him for the Beach family was met with a lot of pushback in the legal community. “There’s a lot of grumbling and shock that I’m actually going to hold Alex personally responsible.”

Tinsley testifies he was not just going to settle for a summary of Murdaugh’s net worth. He wanted the details. “I wanted the accounts because I knew the only way he could be broke is if money had been hidden.”

Tinsley testifies the Maggie/Paul slayings made him question the viability of continuing to sue Alex Murdaugh in the boat crash case. “Pretty quickly, I recognized that the case against Alex, if he were in fact the victim of some vigilante, would be over.”

The tragedy, if Alex were the victim and not the perpetrator, would have cloaked him in sympathy - drastically reducing the chances a jury would have ordered Alex to pay up in the boat crash case, Tinsley says. This is exactly what state prosecutors wanted Tinsley to say.

Again, prosecutors are making the case that Alex Murdaugh killed his wife and son in order to portray himself as the "victim of an unspeakable tragedy" and distract from the inquiries that could have exposed his decade-long financial crime spree.

The state ends its questioning. Murdaugh defense attorney Phillip Barber rises to cross-examine Tinsley.

A testy exchange between Phillip Barber and Tinsley. Barber asks questions challenging whether the boat crash case was going to trial in summer 2021, with all lots of legal questions/motions pending. Tinsley: “Maybe you’ve never tried a civil case.” Says he was ready for trial.

Barber and Tinsley argue about whether Judge Daniel Hall actually granted a request to compel financial records from Murdaugh in October 2021. It’s a battle of semantics in which they are reading the same sheet of paper and coming to different conclusions about Hall’s intention.

From what I could hear, Hall essentially said: turn over the financial records or we can have a hearing on the motion to compel, if necessary. Tinsley says that shows Hall wanted Murdaugh to release records. “I understand you don’t want to acknowledge what I’ve handed you.”

Barber is arguing that it was premature for Murdaugh to have to turn over financial records. That typically doesn’t happen until after the jury has awarded a verdict, he says. Tinsley: “You’re making a statement of law. I’m telling you what was happening.”

Barber: Even if you got a motion to compel Murdaugh’s finances on 6/10/21, isn’t it true all you could have gotten was a net worth statement? Tinsley: “Not even remotely close.

Tinsley testifies “I knew he had money.” He says the reason he pushed so hard for Murdaugh’s bank records is that Alex Murdaugh didn’t want him to have them. “If you’re a good plaintiff’s lawyer, everything you do in a case is to put pressure on the other side.”

Tinsley testifies he was pressuring Murdaugh to settle the case. "What I cared about was putting pressure on Alex. … I knew he didn’t want me to have it.”

There are 54,000 people watching this on just the Law and Crime livestream, one of many livestreams of this case.

We are deep in Hypothetical World right now as Barber and Tinsley face off.

Barber is trying to establish that there would have been some time after 6/10/21 before Murdaugh would have had to disclose his bank records. “There wouldn’t have been an explosion June 10. But the fuse was lit the moment that information became available in this case.”

Waters is up on redirect, hammering home his point. Waters: “If the hearing takes place on June 10, 2021, what is the net effect of what could happen with that?” Tinsley: “The discovery of everything he’s done.”

Tinsley steps down. Alex Murdaugh's old law partner, Ronnie Crosby, is the state's next witness.