SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #21

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  • #921
So sad to see these young men who were lifelong friends of Paul, testifying in the trial of Alex for his murder. I cannot imagine how awful that must feel. Paul died as quickly as he was betrayed, but they live with the shock and senselessness of that betrayal still.
 
  • #922
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  • #923
A month after the murder, AM told him he’d like to beat the boat case on their way to the airport
This.
 
  • #924
Curious about how they note the close distance of Paul's phone to dog kennel but don't say anything about AM's phone and MM's phone being that close to the kennels. I am not paying really close attention because I'm a bit lost without seeing the charts
Way back when they first started with any phone evidence, I remember they said something about Paul having more location services on in his phone than AM did.
 
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Was that a little smirk on AM’s face?
 
  • #927
Looking like a comic book villain

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  • #928
Looking like a comic book villain

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I would hang my head in shame
 
  • #929
I don’t see any tweets about the final question asked of Nathan Tuten by the State.

Where would Paul put his phone if he was working with his hands ?

NT : in his pocket

Which pocket?

NT : his back pocket
 
  • #930
Was that a little smirk on AM’s face?
Yep that’s what I see.
Amusement. Maybe a little relieved?
JMO
 
  • #931
Like Nathan Tuten's testimony, just the fact's young man. The cross will try to muddy the water again.
 
  • #932
Seeing a statement by Mark Tinsley at today's trial that's being repeated (Twitter) out of context (as fact) that AM had no life insurance.

This is what he actually testified:


9:48 a.m. – Defense begins cross-examination of Tinsley. Defense asks if there was any life insurance on Maggie and Paul. Tinsley says he doesn’t think there was a life insurance policy on anyone, including Murdaugh.

Defense asks Tinsley previously testified that there would not have been an explosion on June 10, 2021. Tinsley says that statement was taken out of context, but he said something to that effect.



9:32 a.m. – Court is in session. Prosecution resumes direct examination of attorney Mark Tinsley.

 
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  • #934
I've been busy with work and only able to partially keep up with things, but I heard something earlier today from Blanca's testimony. She was talking about when she left the property, and she saw Paul's white truck down by the kennels.
When did that get there? I thought it was established early on that he was not driving that truck that day.
 
  • #935
[…]

The shocking case serves as the subject of Netflix's upcoming true crime docuseries, Murdaugh Murders: A Southern Scandal, available to stream on Feb. 22 in three parts. It chronicles "how the prominent Murdaugh family purportedly used and abused their wealth and privilege to the extreme, and which family member is allegedly behind it all," according to the streamer.

[…]

 
  • #936
I can't get over people leaving their dirty dishes in the living room for their housekeeper to clean up the next day. The Murdaugh's were not the uber rich. Is it really too much trouble to carrry your dishes to the sink ?
I can't either. When she said the food pots would be left on the stove I thought to myself that is such a low class thing to do. Leave your dirty dishes and cookware right where you're done with them; drop your dirty clothes, wet towels, etc right where you stepped out of them. Because someone is going to clean up after you that's not entitlement, IMO that is being a lazy slob. Didn't they think dirty kitchens and food encrusted plates left overnight would bring roaches and mice and ants?
jmo
 
  • #937
I don't think I've seen anyone discussing this aspect of it, so I'll bite the bullet and go there.

Maggie and Alex were married only a year before my husband and I got married.

After all these years of marriage, my husband knows with all certainty whether I wear underwear under my pajama bottoms. Heck, he knew that information quite well even before we'd been married a year. I will not incriminate myself further than that. :)

So, to me, the fact that Maggie's housekeeper knew that info but whoever laid out the pajamas (on the floor??? in a doorway??) didn't leads me to two different thoughts:

1) Alex and Maggie had not shared a bedroom and/or been intimate in a fair bit. Even if they weren't intimate and hadn't been for a long time, if you are sharing a room with your spouse they see you getting dressed/undressed and they would know your underwear and pajama preferences.

2) Someone other than Alex put out those pajamas and underwear before SLED came into the house. If Alex told someone else to do it, he might have told them "put out her pajamas"--meaning it quite literally, while the person who got that order interpreted that to mean pajamas and underwear from their own assumptions. If this supposed person did it of their own volition without an order or without consulting Alex, they included the underwear based on their own assumptions about Maggie's nightwear habits.

And yes, in theory this could be a recent change in Maggie's preferences, but I think Blanca would have made that clear in her statement. And I think we can safely assume that SODDI didn't murder Paul and Maggie while Alex was gone, go up the house, and stage the pajamas and underwear.

(I can't believe I'm analyzing a crime victim's underwear usage and its implication on her sex life/state of marriage in regards to how it points to someone other than Maggie putting out the clothes. But I think it's a valid point.).
 
  • #938
Interesting to listen to this podcast again after the last weeks of testimony, it's AM's jailhouse calls:
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  • #939
I think he’s sunk. He is going away forever even if he is found not guilty of these murders. His only hope would be to be out for a while on bail before he is convicted of his financial crimes. As long as he has the 700k 10% option of his bail. He says he’s broke but I don’t believe it.
 
  • #940

We’re back after lunch. Defense attorney Dick Harpootlian rises to object to Waters calling his next witness, Tony Satterfield. Harpootlian says the presentation of one of Murdaugh’s financial witnesses is more prejudicial than useful.

Harpootlian says Murdaugh’s thefts have already been documented in evidence, so this is beating a dead horse.

Waters argues Satterfield shows a different kind of theft and is worth including. Waters says he has texts in April 2021 in which Murdaugh assured Satterfield they are working hard on his mother’s case and everything is fine.

Satterfield called Murdaugh on 6/22/21 to ask about his mother's case, two weeks after the slayings, Waters says. Satterfield said in his previous testimony he couldn't remember exactly when he made that call.

Harpootlian makes the case that the Satterfield issue didn't contribute to the alleged motive since the call didn't come before 6/7/21.

Harpootlian: The financial crimes were admitted to prove motive. Nothing here establishes that Alex Murdaugh had reason to murder his wife and son. No “immediacy.” “The only call between these folks began on June 22, two weeks after the murders.”

Harpootlian: “This is a murder trial, not a financial fraud trial.”

Judge Newman: “This testimony is consistent with the state’s theory of the defendant being in a frantic state, seeking to avoid disclosure of these financial crimes and thefts.” He denies Harpootlian's motion to exclude Tony Satterfield's testimony.

Harpootlian argues one last time that Satterfield's call to Murdaugh didn't come until two weeks after the slayings, so it couldn't have contributed to Murdaugh's concern he was about to be exposed.

Newman says he understands. But this is a huge theft and Murdaugh could have been worried about its exposure.

Satterfield testifies about how Murdaugh spoke with him after his mother's funeral and told him he would bring a legal claim against his own insurance providers for Satterfield and his brother's benefit.

Satterfield then explains how Murdaugh essentially handled the case, even though he was the defendant.

Prosecutor Waters has Tony Satterfield read a text conversation he had with Murdaugh on April 12, 2021. Murdaugh texted Tony to check in, saying he was working a case that reminded him of Tony. Tony responded he was doing well. He asked about his mother's case.

Murdaugh to Tony: “Finally getting some movement. Still a ways to go. Doing good. Was just thinking about and thought I’d check in. ... See you soon.” By then, Gloria's case had produced two settlements worth $4.3M. Murdaugh stole $3.4M of it. Tony to Murdaugh: “Cool. Thanks.”

Satterfield testifies that Murdaugh told him his goal was to recover $100,000 for each of Satterfield’s two sons from the insurance case. But then Murdaugh never told him when the case settled for $4.3M. Waters: “At any time, did he ever pay you one penny?” Satterfield: “No.”

Waters finishes his questioning of Tony Satterfield: Why did you agree to Murdaugh’s plan to sue himself? Satterfield: “Because I trusted him.”





Harpootlian on cross-examination asks Satterfield if he ever called lawyer Cory Fleming or banker Chad Westendorf to ask about his case. Satterfield says no.

Harpootlian notes that the Satterfields hired attorneys Eric Bland and Ronnie Richter and got $6.5 million from their case against Murdaugh and other defendants. Harpootlian: “So you have been made more than whole for that loss?” Satterfield: “Yes.”

Harpootlian also establishes that Satterfield never confronted Murdaugh about any stolen money before 6/7/21, the date of the murders.

The state's 42nd witness is Jan Malinowski, CEO of Palmetto State Bank. He testified earlier in this case with the jury excused about Murdaugh's massive debts and overdrafts. He said the bank would have cut Murdaugh off if it found out earlier that he was stealing from clients.

Yup. I believe the tears were during a bench trial (i.e., no jury, case argued only before the Judge) for a client he'd never met (he was already deceased when AM joined the case)! In fairness, AM had met the wife of the decedent.

Also, I recently read of another Judge that AM was able to bamboozle -- this was for the Satterfield claim. Judge Mullen kept the Satterfield case out of public record allegedly to help AM disguise the recent award from the Boat case plaintiffs which also helped AM hide the settlement from the true beneficiaries -- Tony and Brian Satterfield! :eek:


I can't either. When she said the food pots would be left on the stove I thought to myself that is such a low class thing to do. Leave your dirty dishes and cookware right where you're done with them; drop your dirty clothes, wet towels, etc right where you stepped out of them. Because someone is going to clean up after you that's not entitlement, IMO that is being a lazy slob. Didn't they think dirty kitchens and food encrusted plates left overnight would bring roaches and mice and ants?
jmo
I was at work today listening to the housekeepers testimony. I work many jobs but I've worked for the family I was at today for close to 40 years now. I could so relate to seeing things and knowing things that are all quite personal. I know she knows so much more that what she said on the stand. She's a treasure trove of information.
 
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