SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #22

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  • #861
It didn't work for Tammy Moore.
It didn't work for Jodi Arias.
It didn't work for Cristhian Bahena Rivera.
For sure and AM's Laywers are not saying much on it as well.
 
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M family is arriving now.


For reference: I watch at Law & Crime Network.
 
  • #864
I may time DH's questioning today, he said that if he started yesterday at around 5:30ish it would take him until 7:00 to finish. I think that was another defense tactic to stall so he could prepare more. JMO
 
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It didn't work for Tammy Moore.
It didn't work for Jodi Arias.
It didn't work for Cristhian Bahena Rivera.
But AM thinks he's smarter and more charming than anyone in the room. He thinks he can convince the jury of his innocence just by hearing him talk. MOO.
By all accounts, he WAS charming and able to gain trust - enough to make his law firm and others look over the misplaced money for so long. IMO.
 
  • #867
Yes. I'm totally being serious about milking the tears too! Watch how his hands come up to the eyes. He starts to rub his tear ducts or whatever you call that part of the eye. Every time he needs to pretend to be upset, he pulls that move.

The more I thought about that interview last night the more angry I got. The way this cat can go from a sobbing, snotty mess, to talking about the most mundane stuff is quite something. And again I'll point out it's not really what he says that I'm concerned about. It's what he doesn't say. For a man who just lost his son and wife, he's acting pretty casually as he rambles on and on and on.

If this was a hit on his family, he has absolutely ZERO concern of anyone coming back for him OR his other son!!!! No fear. He doesn't ask for protection or police help. No concern for Buster. The concept that he may be in danger never comes up again in any of the videos I've seen. With the exception of the night of the murders, wear he is so scared he goes and gets a gun, we never hear about it again!! It's like the threat just vanished into thin air.

Or it's been sitting in front of us the whole time!
I was thinking he went to his house, got the gun & held it - so if any gun residue was on his hands - would be understandable.
Frightening is the way he planned this out.
It was not a fit of passion or anger.
It was planned execution & planned alibi.
This monster.Too bad it can’t be DP.

MOO
 
  • #868
Yup like it popped up like a POP TART!. He was there when his son was recording the vid of the dogs tail for his friend and I'm thinking that AM knew he may be on the vid as well.

I agreed with the, he was there, then with the activity with bubba and the chicken AM may not have realized he was videotaped just taking pics.

AM could then be getting gun, PM enters feed room and AM makes first shot.

Jmo
 
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Only thing I can think DH can really cross the pathologist about is the possibility of 2 shooters.
 
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But AM thinks he's smarter and more charming than anyone in the room. He thinks he can convince the jury of his innocence just by hearing him talk. MOO.
By all accounts, he WAS charming and able to gain trust - enough to make his law firm and others look over the misplaced money for so long. IMO.
I think his ex colleague called it the art of bull 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. Tammy Moore thought she had acquired that beautiful art too. And the more she talked the more it sunk her.
:0)
 
  • #872
<snipped by me for focus>

AM states he left work early on Monday because PM was coming home and they drove around the property -- shooting, and checking on the corn and trees. But when pushed, it really means leaving the office sometime after 5 pm and riding around with Paul more than 20 minutes but less than 2 hours when they went to the house to have dinner with MM.

<snipped>

AM is definite about MM going to the kennels after supper but PM is left out of this memory. He doesn't know where PM went but he must have gone to the kennels since his body is found there.

<snipped>
As per the body cams, when asked by the first responders when the last time he saw MM and PM, AM responded that he had been gone for 1.5 hours (a lie) and had last seen them 45 minutes before that (a lie). This would imply that he last saw them around 7:45.

And saying he didn't KNOW that Paul was at the kennels is clearly another complete fabrication, as proven by Paul's kennel video.

So many lies.
What innocent person would tell so many lies right after finding their loved ones violently murdered?

ETA: clarifying that this 1.5 hours + 45 minutes was his response to first responders. He changed his story when pressed by the investigators in the car interview a couple of hours later.
 
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I agreed with the, he was there, then with the activity with bubba and the chicken AM may not have realized he was videotaped just taking pics.

AM could then be getting gun, PM enters feed room and AM makes first shot.

Jmo
I think he thought Paul was just snapping picks too.

That's why AM was flapping his gums for sooo long that he was never up at the kennels.
 
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What is today? 15 or 16 on Law & Crime?
It varies depending on who is reporting. L&C states Day 15. I usually go by what Judge Newman states at beginning of trial. I think he may say Day 16 today, but I could be wrong. moo
 
  • #875
Wait, the state's no even done, are they? So no AM today...duh on me:p
 
  • #876
I think his ex colleague called it the art of bull *advertiser censored*. Tammy Moore thought she had acquired that beautiful art too. And the more she talked the more it sunk her.
Yes, you are so right! I would put AM and Tammy Moorer in the same box.
Both of them thinking they are the smartest and most charming person in the room - MOO - and hopefully, AM falls just like she did.
 
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Dr. Ellen Riemer, the MUSC forensic pathologist who performed Maggie and Paul’s autopsies, will be on the stand for cross-examination when court resumes at 9:30 am.

A couple of thoughts re: Murdaugh's Big Lie (that he didn't go down to the dog kennels with Maggie and Paul that night, when we now know he did): Last night, I rewatched footage of Murdaugh's 6/10/21 interview with SLED. Agent Jeff Croft is in the backseat in this interview…

We know from the testimony of Paul's friend, Rogan Gibson, that Gibson told Croft on 6/8/21 that he was 99 percent sure he heard Alex's voice in the background of his 8:40 p.m. call with Paul - in which Paul was at the dog kennels and dogs could be heard barking.

So two days later, Croft is helping to conduct this SLED interview of Murdaugh. The interview is very friendly. No aggressive tones or questions, by my read of it. Agents give Murdaugh grace as he breaks down in tears and hysterics over and over.

But on rewatch, knowing everything I know now, it struck me that Croft was the one politely asking Murdaugh to try to recall what he did that evening, whether he went down to the kennels, etc. He was the one who got Murdaugh on the record over and over that he was never there.

That's all. One of the reasons this case is fascinating is because - for better or worse - prosecutors really are just flipping over puzzle pieces and not telling us where they go or what they mean. So when you notice something like that, it feels like a small discovery.
 
  • #878
I think his ex colleague called it the art of bull *advertiser censored*. Tammy Moore thought she had acquired that beautiful art too. And the more she talked the more it sunk her.
:0)
She was so unlikable, I find myself wondering how she's doing in prison.
 
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Dr. Ellen Riemer, the MUSC forensic pathologist who performed Maggie and Paul’s autopsies, will be on the stand for cross-examination when court resumes at 9:30 am.

A couple of thoughts re: Murdaugh's Big Lie (that he didn't go down to the dog kennels with Maggie and Paul that night, when we now know he did): Last night, I rewatched footage of Murdaugh's 6/10/21 interview with SLED. Agent Jeff Croft is in the backseat in this interview…

We know from the testimony of Paul's friend, Rogan Gibson, that Gibson told Croft on 6/8/21 that he was 99 percent sure he heard Alex's voice in the background of his 8:40 p.m. call with Paul - in which Paul was at the dog kennels and dogs could be heard barking.

So two days later, Croft is helping to conduct this SLED interview of Murdaugh. The interview is very friendly. No aggressive tones or questions, by my read of it. Agents give Murdaugh grace as he breaks down in tears and hysterics over and over.

But on rewatch, knowing everything I know now, it struck me that Croft was the one politely asking Murdaugh to try to recall what he did that evening, whether he went down to the kennels, etc. He was the one who got Murdaugh on the record over and over that he was never there.

That's all. One of the reasons this case is fascinating is because - for better or worse - prosecutors really are just flipping over puzzle pieces and not telling us where they go or what they mean. So when you notice something like that, it feels like a small discovery.
Great point and if AM risk it all and takes the stand the state will make a point to drill AM with that question since AM has stuck to his "I wasn't there guns".
 
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