SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #23

[gremlin444]

How did a stranger get that close to Maggie and Paul?

Exactly. Kennel full of hunting dogs, trained to pay attention to strange smells and sounds.....and yet some unknown stranger crept through the dark without making any sound on that rough "road" and managed to not to set the dogs off. That shooter walked within a few feet of the first two kennels next to the feed room...and the dogs didn't kick up a ruckus before they even got within ten feet of Paul???

Gee....who wouldn't make the dogs go on high alert getting that close to the feed room and Paul and Maggie? Can't imagine. Oh, maybe the person who was already there? Heck, Alex likely couldn't have even snuck down from the house and approached the kennels without the dogs barking excitedly. But they have no reason to bark if he's been there for the last 30 minutes.

 

[geevee]

I wonder if Alex felt protected or immune from things because of his father's power. I imagine his father's influence waned with his illness, but his impending death may have sparked fear in Alex -- especially in terms of the law firm, where his father had worked -- that he no longer had a protector. Just speculating.

I think that's quite likely, he probably felt very vulnerable for the first time in his entire life. imo

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

I don't necessarily believe AM intended to be dead. That's just Alex's story, and we know he's an habitual liar. We don't know what went on at the roadside.

What we DO know so far is that AM lied to LE, yet again, to make himself look like a victim.

I don't know why the prosecution is conceding that he intended to kill himself, when Blanca has testified that he asked for a copy of his insurance card that day. It looks to me like it was to get more sympathy and it did work again at first at least according to Marian.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Okay. He stole money from clients. His son killed someone in a drunk boating accident. Uninsured it left AM personally exposed to a $10 million debt. He allegedly paid someone to kill him after the murder of his wife and son. He had an affair 16 years ago. None of this means a hill of beans.

Where is the evidence that he killed them? Where is it?

If the only physical evidence the state has is gunshot residue on this hand, I would have to acquit. Why? Because he was holding a shotgun when LE arrived and it could have been transferred from said gun. Unless, of course, that was disproven.

Do you need video of him doing the deed? Well they have nearly that with the video of him there 5 minutes before the deed. That's more than proof enough, when all the other evidence only supports it, nothing exculpates him. How was he able to get away from the scene so fast without either being the killer or a witness to it? Why did he lie about the nap? If not guilty, why did he leave his phone behind when he went to the kennels? Why all the clothes changes? Why try to get witnesses to lie about his clothes? Why, if he's not guilty?

And as we learned this week, the shooting was a surprise attack. They were not being held at gunpoint by an outside killer, they were shot while going about their business, unsuspecting. Another strike against Alex.

 

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I absolutely agree with Mr. Bland.

JMO

 

[tmar]

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Prosecutors working to establish that someone used the hose by the kennels after Davis, obviously to clean themselves off after the slayings.

Great that AM was not as particular as Davis regarding the hose.
Hose was most important in removing evidence from his clothes, and himself, before he left.
So now we have Bubba and hose giving evidence.

 

[Kembo]

I don't know why the prosecution is conceding that he intended to kill himself, when Blanca has testified that he asked for a copy of his insurance card that day. It looks to me like it was to get more sympathy and it did work again at first at least according to Marian.

Here's the conversation:
AM: Hey Eddie, can you do me a favor?
CE: Sure, what is it?
AM: Can you pretend that you've been supplying me pills, and then testify that I asked you to shoot me in the head so my son could collect insurance money.
CE: Why would you want me to tell them that?
AM: So they'll believe I really wanted to die from grief, and that I really care about Buster, which of course I don't.
CE: But I'll go to jail.
AM: Not for long. I'll make it worth your while. I've got millions in my Swiss bank account. Just keep telling that same story.
CE: What if they ask me why I missed from close range?
AM: Tell them you have bad eyesight and your hand was shaky from having to kill a good friend.
CE: Yeah, ok, I guess that'll work. Now let's talk about that money.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

If Alex is not the killer, who put the dogs in the pens and the way Maggie would not do it? Sure was nice of the killer to put the dogs in their cages instead of just shooting them too. The killer also nicely washed off the area and put the hose away. Must be simply southern hospitality I guess.

 

[otto]

Listening to Maggie's sister just hammers home how senseless this all was. A truly innocent woman murdered for what? Even Paul with the boat crash hanging over his head was in no way deserving of being murdered. They were loved.

And then we hear that Maggie told her sister Alex called her to come to the house because his dad was not doing well and that Paul was going to be coming as well. Her understanding was that they were going to visit Alex father.

It sounds like Paul and Maggie at 8:44 pm on June 7 at the dog kennel expected to put the dogs to bed, then get into the truck with Alex to visit his ailing father and mother at their home.

What came clear for me was that Maggie was reluctant to go to Moselle on the day that she was murdered, but her older sister convinced her that she should have one more visit with Alex's father before he died. Neither knew that Alex's father, dying of cancer, had been moved to palliative care for pneumonia earlier that day. He died two days later. Paul and Maggie were shot later that day. Neither knew that although Alex claimed frequent visits with his father, caregivers did not see him.

Maggie and Paul were not shot once by an expert hunter standing 3 feet away. They were both wounded first. The forensic pathologist testified that Paul was probably looking at his shooter when the second shot was fired - since that's the only way that his face was intact and his brain was in the dirt next to his feet. The first shot skimmed his shoulder and back. Maggie was shot in the thigh/knee area, the kidneys, the hand, the back and the head. Also, not the sign of an expert hunter.

Maggie was at Moselle only because Alex asked her to meet him at Moselle so they could drive together to have one last visit with his father.

Did I read correctly that Alex curled up with mom in her bed for a few minutes before bolting back to Moselle to report his son and wife shot dead.

 

[Seattle1]

I just watched the 2021 Murdaugh Documentary on Oxygen and I think AM very much depended on nobody in the county believing he would commit double murder, and LE would just accept his "iron-clad" alibi. The idea that GMC came forward with the telematics data for his Suburban is probably blowing his mind. I think AM is still holding on to his entitled idea that the jury seated before him will acquit him. To that I say -- be brave, be warriors. Let justice prevail! MOO

Alex Murdaugh: Death. Deception. Power. | Oxygen Official Site

The Murdaugh name was once associated with a legal dynasty in the South Carolina Lowcountry - three generations of the family were named solicitor in the state's Fourteenth Circuit District. But a series of untimely deaths, accusations of financial impropriety and an alleged assisted-suicide...

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Alex Murdaugh’s sister-in-law testified Tuesday in his double murder trial that she thought it was odd that he didn’t seem scared in the weeks after his son Paul and wife Maggie were killed at their South Carolina home.

Marian Proctor told jurors her family was distraught after the killings. She said Alex Murdaugh was devastated too, but that he said a few odd things about the deaths of his wife and son.

“He did not know who it was, but he thought whoever had done it had thought about it a really long time,” Proctor said.

[…]

“He said that his number one goal was clearing Paul’s name,” Proctor said. “And I thought that was so strange because my number one goal was to find out who killed my sister and Paul.”


Proctor testified her opinion of her brother-in-law started to change in September 2021 when police said Alex Murdaugh asked a friend to kill him on the side of the road so his surviving son could get a $10 million life insurance policy, but the shot just grazed his head.

At the same time, news started to emerge the investigators thought Alex Murdaugh stole from his family law firm and clients. Murdaugh is facing about 100 other charges outside of murder.

[…]

Murdaugh's sister-in-law saw odd behavior after killings

Alex Murdaugh’s sister-in-law has testified in his double murder trial that she thought it was odd that he didn’t seem scared in the weeks after his son Paul and wife Maggie were killed at their South Carolina home.

apnews.com

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Listening to Maggie's sister just hammers home how senseless this all was. A truly innocent woman murdered for what? Even Paul with the boat crash hanging over his head was in no way deserving of being murdered. They were loved.

I thought it was tragic that Blanca said Maggie didn't care about losing all their money in a lawsuit, she would have been willing to just start over.

 

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[Kembo]

Alex's statement that whoever did it must have planned it for a long time really is telling.

Also, if this was a revenge killing, then why did the killer wait that long to kill them? Alex and Paul were riding around for a while before, then they went to eat dinner, then down to the kennels. How would someone know they were there unless they followed Paul when he came to the property? How would this stranger know that Paul was not armed, especially because he often was when riding around the property. How did a stranger know there was not guns in that room Paul was in? How did a stranger get that close to Maggie and Paul? If someone was waiting for the right time to murder them, this was NOT it. So many unknowns for a stranger to come in for a revenge killing.

Now if it's Alex and he has control of every single element that a stranger wouldn't have control of, that makes perfect sense. Alex would know Paul isn't armed. Alex didn't have a gun in his truck because Paul and Maggie both would know there would be a gun there and if something went wrong guess who could run to the truck and get that gun? Alex is the one who planned it for some time and he knew exactly what he was doing and where it would be best to do it.

I agree that AM had the means and opportunity, but the prosecution would need to come up with a reasonable motive for a premeditated killing in a circumstantial case. That's even tougher than what they're trying to do now. The prosecution's theory is that he acted quickly to kill them because on June 7 MT wanted his financial records, his accountant confronted him about the missing checks, and he received word his father was terminal. He was desperate, so he lured them to Moselle and then shot them that night. There really is no suggestion that he was desperate prior to June 7. What motive do you suggest for a premeditated killing? No witness has even remotely suggested he hated his family. Even if he was worried much earlier about being discovered, how would murdering your family help that situation? IMO

 

[Kembo]

I don't know why the prosecution is conceding that he intended to kill himself, when Blanca has testified that he asked for a copy of his insurance card that day. It looks to me like it was to get more sympathy and it did work again at first at least according to Marian.

I would like to see medical testimony as to his head wound. Was it confirmed it was a gunshot wound? If so, that's a pretty darn good piece of shooting by Cousin Eddie to graze him on purpose.

 

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Maggie’s sister hugs her nephew Buster as she is leaving the Courtroom today.

Source:

Maggie Murdaugh's sister testifies about Alex's 'odd' statements after slayings

In the weeks after Maggie and Paul Murdaugh were brutally shot to death, their relatives were terrified. Yet Alex Murdaugh, the Hampton family's patriarch, didn't seem concerned for his own

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[Kembo]

I think that's quite likely, he probably felt very vulnerable for the first time in his entire life. imo

I'm more confused now about this trial than before it started. But it seems to me that if you knew you had less protection, why add murder to your list of crimes? Why not turn to MM for help? No one was more loyal to and protective of AM than Maggie, according to all the witnesses I've heard. Even with all his financial crimes, AM should have known his whole family would have rallied around him. The proof of that is how so many of his friends and family are supportive of him even now, on trial for murdering his wife and son. Only MT seems to have any courage to speak badly of him without any reservations. Why is Maggie's sister reluctant to wave an accusatory finger at him in court? Why is she hedging her bets? There are just too many whys in this case and it's driving me crazy.

 

[mrjitty]

This prosecution is a complete joke at this point! This witness' cross was damanging to the state's case and this roadside incident and pill stuff is just a deflection. They are so desperate that they wanted to introduce a 15 year old affair! I can't believe the judge allowed this. We have strayed so far from the elements of the murder charge.

The witness introduced it while being cross examined by the defence counsel.

Maybe he shouldn't have asked such open ended questions that led to those answers?