SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #23

[Warwick7]

Ok....so....was the defense stating Paul was the killer then he committed suicide??

 

[Edvis]

Amazing how often the talking head defense attorneys from every YT channel are quoted on here! Of course they are in awe of the defense & salivate over trashing the prosecution smh
moo

My mute button has been my best friend during this trial and talking heads.

 

[Seattle1]

Newman said he reversed his ruling and will allow all of it pursuant to the doctrine of fairness after the defense questioned the witness about skimming by Smith, gangs, drug sales, etc.

ETA: doctrine of completeness and fairness.

(Sorry, I omitted completeness in my initial post.

 

[pizzaman12]

This is what we see every time. It means very little that the defense "seemed" to get the upper hand with Owen. What is crucial is again the defense opened the door to direct information.

This time it is the roadside shooting testimony by... questioning the witness as to the relationship between AM and Eddie Smith, payment of money to buy drugs, indebtedness, etc......

I think the defense knowingly did it. Just my opinion

 

[Regal Beagle]

Leaving guns out in the open over night, on side x sides, golf carts, in unlocked vehicles ( keys left in them). This does not seem the behavior of a person or persons who feel their lives are being targeted by shady individuals over the past year . This behavior seems indicative of people who feel safe and secure in their surroundings, and untouchable from even the most mundane crime that occurs in small towns.

 

[Seattle1]

Got it! I am still trying to understand AM's statement, "Paul was a real intuitive guy..." It was one of the times in the interviews when he re-routed the conversation, and the rerouting behavior seems to be when he is planting breadcrumbs for the investigation to follow a particular direction. It made no sense to me in the context, and I am still trying to figure out his angle. It could be an offhand remark, but I don't think so.

So is the "little detective" reference just an attempt to throw shade and suspicion on CB Rowe?

It is my feeling that AM never just brings stuff up. He has a list of suggested inferences that he'd like for the detectives to pick up on, you know, like an attorney would do in court.

I think AM's motive was two-fold. He was wanting to paint his son in a good light (intuitive little dude) and also throw shade and suspicion at CB Rowe who AM said he wanted to terminate (ruined sunflower seeds) but couldn't do so yet because he did not have a replacement.

The following day, AM went out of his way to tell investigators that he really didn't think CB Rowe was involved or responsible for the murders and only brought him up earlier because he recalled the strange story he told PM.

I agree that AM is strategic when bringing things up. AM had already gone overboard about a boat wreck retaliation suspect and CB Rowe was to balance it out -- and quickly rescind this idea the following day. MOO

 

[c@tw0man]

I cannot stand it being called a suicide attempt. People who are seriously suicidal usually accomplish what they are attempting to do.

I'm with you, Mommy! That mountain of crap is so lame... the whole story is a phoney baloney red herring he cooked up, to provide a mess of false trails to confuse the investigators. This guy is a big narcissist, he was so-o-o sure he could run the cops in circles and beat the system. He makes my skin crawl.

 

[Warwick7]

So...AM knew MM was shot in the back of the head.

Um....the pathologist said you couldn't tell because the how the shot was, that's why she shaved Maggie's hair in that spot.

I'm shaking my head...

 

[Love Never Fails]

Leaving guns out in the open over night, on side x sides, golf carts, in unlocked vehicles ( keys left in them). This does not seem the behavior of a person or persons who feel their lives are being targeted by shady individuals over the past year . This behavior seems indicative of people who feel safe and secure in their surroundings, and untouchable from even the most mundane crime that occurs in small towns.

And untouchable for the crime of murder.

 

[bestill]

Oh and lest we forget AM's attorney Griffin told everyone his client’s tire “appeared to have been slashed,” even though the knife allegedly used to inflict this damage was quickly linked to Alex himself.
lol!!!

The run flat tires, no less.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

I'm with you, Mommy! That mountain of is so lame... the whole story is a phoney baloney red herring he cooked up, to provide a mess of false trails to confuse the investigators. This guy is a big narcissist, he was so-o-o sure he could run the cops in circles and beat the system. He makes my skin crawl.

There was no gun at the scene and forensic pathologist reported that suicide was not possible from that angle. They're being silly and grasping at straws.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

DBM

 

[Ray_of_hope]

So...AM knew MM was shot in the back of the head.

Um....the pathologist said you couldn't tell because the how the shot was, that's why she shaved Maggie's hair in that spot.

I'm shaking my head...

Great catch!

 

[Walela]

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Did Griffin intentionally open this door trying to force the state to call CES?

 

[BUF]

LOL, I just googled “does Gucci sell rain jackets”…and a photo of a men’s blue rain jacket popped up on eBay For $850. Looks pretty similar…

 

[makayla]

I wondered if that was to throw off the prosecution?

Sometimes it’s hard to know what’s true vs what’s theater… DH has this “forgive me your honor, I’m from the old school“ schtick, trying to sound at times like a kind old grandfatherly lawyer. However, his true personality comes out at times, as it did today when he laughed at something Mr. Meadors said, then when Meadors said “you think that’s funny?”, DH hit back with anger and made a scene, no doubt hoping to impress the jury with his powerful retort. I know there are theatrics in a courtroom, but I don’t care for that behavior, and I wouldn’t trust DH no matter how good his reputation is. All in my opinion of course!

 

[worm]

So...AM knew MM was shot in the back of the head.

Um....the pathologist said you couldn't tell because the how the shot was, that's why she shaved Maggie's hair in that spot.

I'm shaking my head...

That 2nd officer that arrived with the body cam mentioned her injury also. There may have been a way to tell on the scene.

 

[Luna20]

And it appears I was wrong; they should have waited even longer. I’m not impressed by what SLED did here, especially with the biological testing. The defense was smart to not request a delay, and appears to have caught the prosecution on their heels. I just hope the worst case scenario is a hung jury.

Ugh, I know. I’m not feeling good about a conviction at this point. The state has not done well with taking advantage of points made by the defence and witnesses. They haven’t personalized their position enough with the exception of AM being a liar.

For one, almost all of DH questions are leading. I haven’t heard the prosecution object on any of them.

 

[bestill]

LOL, I just googled “does Gucci sell rain jackets”…and a photo of a men’s blue rain jacket popped up on eBay. Looks pretty similar…

Oh we need a link!

ETA - that Gucci receipt purchase still hasn't been connected to anything. I want to know!

 

[clearskies1]

Ugh, I know. I’m not feeling good about a conviction at this point. The state has not done well with taking advantage of points made by the defence and witnesses. They haven’t personalized their position enough with the exception of AM being a liar.

For one, almost all of DH questions are leading. I haven’t heard the prosecution object on any of them.

You are allowed to ask leading questions on cross-exam.