SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #24

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Worth noting: The state had Kinsey do a follow-up blood spatter analysis after their first outside expert's report blew up in their faces (when the defense discovered a negative test for human blood on Murdaugh's shirt).

No one asked Kinsey about blood spatter while on the stand

Kinsey is also a footwear/tire tread expert, and no one asked him about the set of Maggie flip-flop footprints going back and forth in the sand by the hangar. So again, why did we spend so much time hearing about it?

I've obviously never tried a case and don't have a law degree. But I do tell stories for a living. Storytellers know the importance of Checkhov's gun: every element in a story must be necessary, or you're diluting the story and wasting your reader's time.

If you tell the reader about a loaded gun in the first act of the story, it better go off in the final act.

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Anybody got a timestamp for Alec's 911 call? I wonder if his abrupt "gotta go, gotta call people" corresponds to the timestamp on Paul's phone waking. I think, in the adrenaline dump after, Alec realized he might have a loose end. Paul's phone. Maybe that's why he hung up on 911.

Whenever he did it, i think he expected Paul's phone to be in a front pocket, hence rolling over, but I think Paul's phone itself might have given away its location -- lighting up by movement or notification. I think Alec wanted to make sure it was locked... confident then that nobody could ever breach that. Locked up tight.

I think that Alec had blood on his own hand when he reached into Paul's pocket. And GSR.

Wet shoes.

I think Alec hung up on 911 to get at Paul's phone, barefoot. Washed away his footprints, hung up the hose, badly, and put his wet feet back in the shoes he was wearing when LE arrived.

JMO
Here is a pretty good timeline. The 7 minute 911 call started at 10:07. So, he interrupted the 911 call at approximately 10:14 to make calls to family.

I’m always a little suspicious of events that seem to correspond with 15 minute marks on the clock. Shootings just before 9:00. Arrive back home at 10:00. Interrupt 911 call before emergency responders have even arrived on scene to call family members at approximately 10:15 (an hour and 15 minutes after the murders). Might suggest coordination of killings and of alibis… thus, a conspiracy to double-murder.
 
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Probably planned to. Later.

Jmo
First place I would look IMO. Bodies of water have always been the dumping ground for everything, cars, weapons, bodies, list goes on.
 
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I've heard it theorized that the reason for the odd sharp upward angle of the last shot to Paul could be that the shooter was falling backwards -- surprised that Paul survived the first shot and was moving towards him, and the shooter tripped backwards out the doorway.
 
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Couple of things. 9:06.

The tire impression on Maggie paired with the fresh GPS data on Alec's vehicle leave me feeling confident that the three of them rode from the house to kennels together in the ATV.

Then Alec did a little magic. IMO nearly simultaneously he used the ATV to dispose of Maggie's phone while using (MOO) a remote starter on his vehicle, effectively putting himself in two places at once.

JMO
I believe the telematics evidence already discounted any use of remote start here. Data/testimony was clear about engine start followed by gear out of park, etc. JMO

 
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Interesting...I've always wondered why he just didn't throw it in the river on the property

Because he knew they would bring in divers to search it. Which they did.
 
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Although there are a lot of bizarre things going on in this, MM's phone being taken and thrown is so weird to me....

IMO, there was significant rage in connection with her phone... Why would a murder-for-hire/stranger be focused on her locked phone? What could they possibly glean from that? And then, why would it be discarded right down the road? Why wouldn't they have kept it, if they felt the need to take it?

IMO, there is only one person who would have been interested in MM's phone for any reason, and that is AM.

JMO. moo
 
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I'm curious of where they would put their weapons when they were down at the kennels. We know they often road around with a weapon. I feel like whatever was going on before he shot them was business as usual in Paul and Maggie's minds. So if he wanted to surprise them, I'm thinking wherever those guns were at is where they typically would be. We know Alex leaned the gun up against his truck because that is what he told the officer when he arrived. Did they lean those guns up against the wall outside the utility room? Then when Paul goes in and is busy and distracted Alex grabs the shotgun and then he can easily pick up the rifle after shooting Paul?
Thinking one day those weapons will be stumbled upon by hunters or someone taking a nature walk. Think the weapons will peek up out of the weeds before those "ghost" killers will.
 
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Although there are a lot of bizarre things going on in this, MM's phone being taken and thrown is so weird to me....

IMO, there was significant rage in connection with her phone... Why would a murder-for-hire/stranger be focused on her locked phone? What could they possibly glean from that? And then, why would it be discarded right down the road? Why wouldn't they have kept it, if they felt the need to take it?

IMO, there is only one person who would have been interested in MM's phone for any reason, and that is AM.

JMO. moo
IF there were multiple people involved that night (conspiracy to double murder), it could be that Maggie’s phone was used by the conspirators to signal each other regarding Alex’s movements. He texted her when leaving Moselle, as well as multiple times after, including when heading back. If a conspirator was continuing to do things at the crime scene while Alex was away, the “signals” would provide info to the person back at the scene regarding how much time was left before they had to depart the scene.
 
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Mentioned that awhile back but much easier to shoot from the hip with a lever action 30-30 then a shotgun. One best hang onto the shotgun and tucked tightly under the arm and brace yourself.
So if a shooter would shoot a shotgun from the shoulder, is that more likely to leave a bruise? If he was trying to avoid that he'd shoot from the hip? I've never shot a shotgun so I have no first hand experience on this. Does a shotgun cause a lot of kickback? Is it possible that trying to avoid getting bruised he held the gun in a less secure way like at the hip and then he dropped it unintentionally after the first shot and then had to bend down to get it and shoot from a lower angle then when he realizes Paul is slowly walking toward him?
 
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Although there are a lot of bizarre things going on in this, MM's phone being taken and thrown is so weird to me....

IMO, there was significant rage in connection with her phone... Why would a murder-for-hire/stranger be focused on her locked phone? What could they possibly glean from that? And then, why would it be discarded right down the road? Why wouldn't they have kept it, if they felt the need to take it?

IMO, there is only one person who would have been interested in MM's phone for any reason, and that is AM.

JMO. moo
The last thing on ghost killer's minds as I call them now. Your there to do one job not go through phones then grab one haul it out then toss along the roadside.
 
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Wait so now LE can set a charge at "Hold for safe keeping"...I'm sorry sir, you don't look safe, off to jail go and in jail you will stay for 6 months...for your safety.
Not a charge. He's in jail and has been moved to a place for safe keeping. Probably to a protected custody unit at the jail.
 
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